+Warwagon MVC Posted March 15, 2020 MVC Share Posted March 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, sava700 said: Wow.... This is like going into a auto parts supplier and saying "I need brakes for my car" Not really the same thing. It's like going to an auto parts store and telling them you know for a fact your car can only go 65 mph but are wondering if it's worth it to get a new car so you can do at least 80 on the interstate. He says he knows his router can only do 100, and if that's all the information he wants to give then the 100 meg router would to be replaced to get the new speeds. He was just wondering if the extra 55 in speed is worth it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598529980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted March 15, 2020 MVC Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Mindovermaster said: Question, what router does he have if it only has a limit of 100gbps? Plus, where is he getting this said info? Most all routers since 2010 are all 1 gig... 10/100/1000... Maybe he's still rocking a WRT54G ... Never mind he said it was neat gear Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598529981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Where's @BudMan when you need him? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598529982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaCrip Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) In short... No. because it's 100mbps (i.e. 12.5MB/s) vs 155mbps (i.e. 19.4MB/s). like others mentioned... you would need a gigabit LAN connection to get more than about 10-11MB/s anyways. still, worst case for you would be 10-11MB/s and that's still plenty fast. personally I would not bother shelling out extra $ for a router as your already benefiting from the $20 less per month and it's not like going from 12.5MB/s to 19.4MB/s will be THAT much of a difference unless your downloading really large files and probably fairly often to. p.s. hell, I still use a older Linksys WRT54GS v1.1 router with FreshTomato 2020.1 firmware (I recently changed the power supply which seems to have cured it's uptime issues). on this it's basically not really possible to exceed 10-11MB/s on the wired connection and the wireless would probably top out around 6.7MB/s and could easily be lower depending on signal quality etc. Edited March 15, 2020 by ThaCrip Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598529984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted March 15, 2020 MVC Share Posted March 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, ThaCrip said: p.s. hell, I still use a older Linksys WRT54GS v1.1 router with FreshTomato 2020.1 firmware. And we have already determined that you don't have a clue to what real internet is.. You don't stream, you don't do anything... You might as well still be on dialup with your AOL CD... You don't need spend 100$ to get 155mbps... A $30 router can do that... https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-AC1200-Wireless-Router-F9K1123/dp/B008982LD4 $30, gig router - supports 867 PHY 5ghz.. So sure it should be able to do 155 without any issues... If your client can do AC, and or your wired at gig.. So your saving 20$ a month... So in less than 2 months you have paid for the new router... Or even if you spend $100 in 5 months you have paid for it... If your current router is only 100mbps interfaces, then your not doing 100 even, your something less than 100.. As to a 50% in speed not being noticeable - is either high, clueless or not actually using the freaking internet.. Here is the big question.. If it was on the ISP that you were playing for 150 and only getting 100, would you be bitching to them - hey!! WTF!!! So why are you not concerned because its on you that your not getting what your paying for... So if you go out for a beer, and says 16 oz pour, and they only pour you 12.. Do you complain? Hey suppose to be 10 oz steak - but this is only 7 at best... Do you just ah oh well... I would for sure invest a few months of your new cheaper plan into a current router that can support the speeds your suppose to have... If you were on a 100mbps plan, and your only seeing 95 because hey your router only has 100mbps interface that would be one thing... But your talking 50% increase in speed.. So why would you not speed a couple of bucks... Its not like its $2K Its literally $30, you could prob find something for even $20 that could do it.. briango and adrynalyne 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598529988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaCrip Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, BudMan said: And we have already determined that you don't have a clue to what real internet is.. You don't stream, you don't do anything... You might as well still be on dialup with your AOL CD You got to let that go. for the record... the only streaming I do is pretty much some YouTube videos which my internet line works fine for. for movies I tend to download etc. 1 minute ago, BudMan said: As to a 50% in speed not being noticeable - is either high, clueless or not actually using the freaking internet.. Depends on what a person is doing. like I said once a person reaches a certain level of speed they are easily 'good enough', that's just a hard fact. besides general internet browsing and most downloads is not going to be that big of a deal as if someone is downloading large files fairly often then it will be noticeable. but like I was saying even 10MB/s or so is pretty fast to download anything 1080p or less as it's not like one is going to wait forever. people who complain about that speed are flat out spoiled, especially if it's a individual user (or thereabouts) like is the case with the OP. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598529990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDude Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, warwagon said: Not really the same thing. It's like going to an auto parts store and telling them you know for a fact your car can only go 65 mph but are wondering if it's worth it to get a new car so you can do at least 80 on the interstate. He says he knows his router can only do 100, and if that's all the information he wants to give then the 100 meg router would to be replaced to get the new speeds. He was just wondering if the extra 55 in speed is worth it. Ok, I apologize for getting so upset. The reason I was getting upset is because people were refusing to answer my question until I revealed all my equipment information, which was irrelevant to the question. Like you said, if a person were to start a thread and ask if buying a new car that can go as fast as X mph is worth the expense, and then people are like, "well what car do you currently have? what kind of tires does it have? What kind of battery does your car have?" None that is relevant to the question, which is frustrated me very much. Anyways, my current router is a Netgear AC1000, which only has a 10/100 LAN & WAN ports, so yeah. It only goes up to 100 mbps. I just bought this a few months ago and I admit, I was negligent with my shopping. I just would've never imagine that a brand like Netgear would sell a product in 2020 with such ancient specs. And they did make the product misleading by advertising that the WiFI capability is 1 gbps, but how the heck can the Wi-Fi go up to 1 gbps if the WAN port is only 10/100?? Very sneaky of them! So my goal would be to buy a new router with 10/100/1000 LAN & WAN ports, so not only will it support my 155 mbps internet, it will also future-proof me in the event my speed increases even more down the road. But then again, if the cost for that new router isn't worth it, then I probably shouldn't bother. And that's my reason for starting this thread. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598529991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted March 16, 2020 MVC Share Posted March 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, DaDude said: Ok, I apologize for getting so upset. The reason I was getting upset is because people were refusing to answer my question until I revealed all my equipment information, which was irrelevant to the question. Like you said, if a person were to start a thread and ask if buying a new car that can go as fast as X mph is worth the expense, and then people are like, "well what car do you currently have? what kind of tires does it have? What kind of battery does your car have?" None that is relevant to the question, which is frustrated me very much. Anyways, my current router is a Netgear AC1000, which only has a 10/100 LAN & WAN ports, so yeah. It only goes up to 100 mbps. I just bought this a few months ago and I admit, I was negligent with my shopping. I just would've never imagine that a brand like Netgear would sell a product in 2020 with such ancient specs. And they did make the product misleading by advertising that the WiFI capability is 1 gbps, but how the heck can the Wi-Fi go up to 1 gbps if the WAN port is only 10/100?? Very sneaky of them! So my goal would be to buy a new router with 10/100/1000 LAN & WAN ports, so not only will it support my 155 mbps internet, it will also future-proof me in the event my speed increases even more down the road. But then again, if the cost for that new router isn't worth it, then I probably shouldn't bother. And that's my reason for starting this thread. Wow, that's kind of mind boggling, the thing was first sold in 2017. I'm embarrassed for netgear. Damn, had I bought that router, I would not have even thought of checking if it had gig ethernet, I would have just assumed. I looked up the product spec sheet and yep, only 10/100Mbps Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598530000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted March 16, 2020 MVC Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, DaDude said: Like you said, if a person were to start a thread and ask if buying a new car that can go as fast as X mph is worth the expense, and then people are like, "well what car do you currently have? what kind of tires does it have? What kind of battery does your car have?" None that is relevant to the question, which is frustrated me very much. HA! To be Fair all they wanted to know is the make and model of the car you drive to check the Max speed and to make sure your current car wasn't just running like crap! briango 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598530007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDude Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, warwagon said: HA! To be Fair all they wanted to know is the make and model of the car you drive to check the Max speed and to make sure your current car wasn't just running like crap! LOL, that's the thing. I just showed you the model of my current router and it is indeed only capable of 100 mbps. That's what I was saying all along, which is why I was so baffled about the confusion of my question. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598530010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted March 16, 2020 MVC Share Posted March 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, DaDude said: LOL, that's the thing. I just showed you the model of my current router and it is indeed only capable of 100 mbps. That's what I was saying all along, which is why I was so baffled about the confusion of my question. They just thought it couldn't possibly be the case that your router only supports 100 meg, and after looking at the specs, of the router, I still thought that LOL ... then I slapped myself back to reality. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598530011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted March 16, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted March 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, DaDude said: LOL, that's the thing. I just showed you the model of my current router and it is indeed only capable of 100 mbps. That's what I was saying all along, which is why I was so baffled about the confusion of my question. We didn't know that. We needed solid proof, not just your word. adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598530014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDude Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, warwagon said: They just thought it couldn't possibly be the case that your router only supports 100 meg, and after looking at the specs, of the router, I still thought that LOL ... then I slapped myself back to reality. Oh believe me, I felt the same way, which is why I just grabbed this router without studying it further, which was silly on my part. But I wasn't looking for anything top of the line, just something basic and you would think in this day and age, ANY router (particularly one with the Netgear name slapped onto it) would be capable of 155 mbps speed. But I guess not. Mindovermaster and +Warwagon 1 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393164-is-it-worth-buying-a-new-router-for-faster-internet-speed/page/2/#findComment-598530018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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