Steven P. Administrators Posted August 24, 2020 Administrators Share Posted August 24, 2020 Hello heroes! I built my PC at the end of last summer and almost thought I opted for a weak PSU but every calculation I've done says that 550W is fine https://outervision.com/b/czi3aJ My actual PC is: be quiet! Pure Base 600 Midi case be quiet! 550W Straight Power 11 80 Plus Gold Aorus Z390 Wifi Pro Intel i5-9600K (not overclocked) 2x 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 3200Mhz KFA2 GeForce RTX 2070 Super EX (1-Click OC) 2x NVMe: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 256GB Windows / Intel 660p (data) 1x Toshiba P300 3TB (7.2k rpm) 1x LG Blu-ray CD-DVD/RW optical drive However the web page at KFA2 says the minimum requirement for the card is 650W (bottom of page, Requirement link) , who is right? I have not experienced a hum or increase in noise levels beyond hearing the GPU fans when I am gaming. Night photo of PC 😛 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1399259-recommended-psu-calculator-vs-recommended-via-gpu-site/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) NV recommends a 550 so I imagine KFA2 is covering their asses wrt people using poor power supplies. Might deny support if you ever need it, but might not. Steven P. 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1399259-recommended-psu-calculator-vs-recommended-via-gpu-site/#findComment-598576311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted August 24, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2020 You'll probably be fine. TechPowerUp did a whole system per draw (Witcher 3 gaming) with a 9600k, ASUS z390 and a 1080ti (comparable to the 2070 Super power-wise) and hit 360W. Nvidia does, however, recommend a 650W. The 2070 non-Super was 550W. I wouldn't worry about it though...unless you start adding more components/HDDs or contemplate o/c'ing Steven P. 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1399259-recommended-psu-calculator-vs-recommended-via-gpu-site/#findComment-598576327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Ahh, so they do. My bad I rarely get confused looking up spec info. Let's just call it mornings Jim K 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1399259-recommended-psu-calculator-vs-recommended-via-gpu-site/#findComment-598576335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted August 24, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 24/08/2020 at 13:13, Jim K said: You'll probably be fine. TechPowerUp did a whole system per draw (Witcher 3 gaming) with a 9600k, ASUS z390 and a 1080ti (comparable to the 2070 Super power-wise) and hit 360W. Nvidia does, however, recommend a 650W. The 2070 non-Super was 550W. I wouldn't worry about it though...unless you start adding more components/HDDs or contemplate o/c'ing Expand This 650W recommendation though I am guessing that is just a vanilla PSU, not the 80 Plus Gold rated ones? I read somewhere that 80 Plus Gold guarantees the rated output, while standard PSUs do not, and have a far lower overall output. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1399259-recommended-psu-calculator-vs-recommended-via-gpu-site/#findComment-598576344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) On 24/08/2020 at 13:54, Steven P. said: This 650W recommendation though I am guessing that is just a vanilla PSU,not the 80 Plus Gold rated ones? I read somewhere that 80 Plus Gold guarantees up to 550W output, while standard 550W ones do not and have a far lower overall output. Expand You're exactly right. Recommendations are going to assume you aren't using an efficient PSU, so you can definitely scale it back if you get a higher tier one. There's a pretty big difference between an 80 Plus (or lower) and an 80 Plus Titanium. https://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/what-is-psu-efficiency-and-why-is-it-important/#:~:text=80 Plus is a certification,of 625W at 100% load.&text=Most power supplies available today are at least 80 Plus rated. Steven P. 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1399259-recommended-psu-calculator-vs-recommended-via-gpu-site/#findComment-598576346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted August 24, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 24/08/2020 at 13:54, Steven P. said: This 650W recommendation though I am guessing that is just a vanilla PSU, not the 80 Plus Gold rated ones? I read somewhere that 80 Plus Gold guarantees the rated output, while standard PSUs do not, and have a far lower overall output. Expand On 24/08/2020 at 13:57, Astra.Xtreme said: You're exactly right. Recommendations are going to assume you aren't using an efficient PSU, so you can definitely scale it back if you get a higher tier one. There's a pretty big difference between an 80 Plus (or lower) and an 80 Plus Titanium. https://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/what-is-psu-efficiency-and-why-is-it-important/#:~:text=80 Plus is a certification,of 625W at 100% load.&text=Most power supplies available today are at least 80 Plus rated. Expand I do not know if Nvidia takes power efficiency into their recommendations nor do I think it matters. A lower efficient PSU is going to draw more power from the wall to achieve power needs of the system. It doesn't mean, necessarily, that a non-efficient 650W won't deliver 650W...it might just need to pull 1.21 Gigawatts from the wall. Assuming non-230V EU cert: 650W on a 80 Plus at 100% load (80%) will pull ~812W from the wall while a 80 Plus Titanium (90%) will be pulling only ~706W from the wall. The 12v rail on the PSU label is probably what Nvidia uses. Though, as I mentioned previously...I think you'll be fine. Steven P., Barney T. and Astra.Xtreme 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1399259-recommended-psu-calculator-vs-recommended-via-gpu-site/#findComment-598576361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey_richie Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) Lots of good answers in here. I tend to depend on pcpartpicker's estimated power consumption tool, it is pretty reliable. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NL6nYH Edited August 24, 2020 by spikey_richie Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1399259-recommended-psu-calculator-vs-recommended-via-gpu-site/#findComment-598576370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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