kiddingguy Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 It's always nice to look at some new hardware... 😊 (although I'd rather keep my money) I'm looking for a decent business notebook. Nothing too fancy like heavy video-editing or photoshopping, gaming etc, And affordable, max. 700-750 EUR. Just some MS Office, mailing, internet, OneDrive... basic stuff like that, maybe a little Photoshop Elements for simple photo editing. I came across the 'Asus VivoBook M712DA-AU069T'. Is this a good one? Is 8 GB sufficient? Specs are: AMD Ryzen 7 3700U Radeon RX Vega 10 17,3" 1920x1080 (Full HD) 8 GB RAM 1,256 TB (256GB SSD & 1TB 5400 RPM) Thanks for helping me pick the right one Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, kiddingguy said: It's always nice to look at some new hardware... 😊 (although I'd rather keep my money) I'm looking for a decent business notebook. Nothing too fancy like heavy video-editing or photoshopping, gaming etc, And affordable, max. 700-750 EUR. Just some MS Office, mailing, internet, OneDrive... basic stuff like that, maybe a little Photoshop Elements for simple photo editing. I came across the 'Asus VivoBook M712DA-AU069T'. Is this a good one? Is 8 GB sufficient? Specs are: AMD Ryzen 7 3700U Radeon RX Vega 10 17,3" 1920x1080 (Full HD) 8 GB RAM 1,256 TB (256GB SSD & 1TB 5400 RPM) Thanks for helping me pick the right one Go with Ryzen 5 and a 4000 series. Don’t go 3000 series. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted October 9, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: Go with Ryzen 5 and a 4000 series. Don’t go 3000 series. I highly doubt he can get a business 4000 gen for ~750 Euros. (Not sure about the currency oiver there) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said: I highly doubt he can get a business 4000 gen for ~750 Euros. (Not sure about the currency oiver there) “Business” Shall we make a wager and I go take a look? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted October 9, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: “Business” Shall we make a wager and I go take a look? There are SOME that are lower than 750. But the good ones are around 900-1000 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said: There are SOME that are lower than 750. But the good ones are around 900-1000 ASUS Vivobook is not a business machine. With that in mind, go take a look and see that you are wrong. Took me about 3 seconds to find this one and its with a Ryzen 7. https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/acer-swift-3-2020-amd "Business" doesn't mean he wants a business priced machine. He wants a machine for business. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted October 9, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: ASUS Vivobook is not a business machine. With that in mind, go take a look and see that you are wrong. "Business" doesn't mean he wants a business priced machine. He wants a machine for business. "Business" has a lot of relations. (think that's the wrong word) He never specified what he meant by "business". I take business as like a Lenovo ThinkPad, for example. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Mindovermaster said: "Business" has a lot of relations. (think that's the wrong word) He never specified what he meant by "business". I take business as like a Lenovo ThinkPad, for example. Look at the title. “Business”. Then he listed a non-business laptop. If all you are going to do is muck up the thread with your nonsense, go away. Otherwise be helpful instead. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: ASUS Vivobook is not a business machine. With that in mind, go take a look and see that you are wrong. Took me about 3 seconds to find this one and its with a Ryzen 7. https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/acer-swift-3-2020-amd "Business" doesn't mean he wants a business priced machine. He wants a machine for business. A "machine" for business. Basically... just some Office (Mail, Word, Excel, PowerPoint), maybe some 'easy' photo editing with PS Elements, and cloud storage. Most of the online tools I use (for online marketing purposes) are cloud-based, so I only further need a decent browser And a "decent" brand, like Asus, MSI, HP (Dell?!) or alike. I'm note really fond of Acer though.... adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, kiddingguy said: A "machine" for business. Basically... just some Office (Mail, Word, Excel, PowerPoint), maybe some 'easy' photo editing with PS Elements, and cloud storage. Most of the online tools I use (for online marketing purposes) are cloud-based, so I only further need a decent browser What do you think of the Swift 3 I linked? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, adrynalyne said: What do you think of the Swift 3 I linked? Specs are decent. Like I said... I'm not a fan of Acer. But that is based on own experiences, plus hearsay, of a couple of years ago. They might have upped there QA and product listings though. Possibly, right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted October 9, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, kiddingguy said: And a "decent" brand, like Asus, MSI, HP (Dell?!) or alike. I'm note really fond of Acer though.... Never get a Dell, heard too many horror stories... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Mindovermaster said: Never get a Dell, heard too many horror stories... ... that's why the "?!" Mindovermaster 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, kiddingguy said: Specs are decent. Like I said... I'm not a fan of Acer. But that is based on own experiences, plus hearsay, of a couple of years ago. They might have upped there QA and product listings though. Possibly, right? Acer has been increasing their quality over the years. I will help look for some more. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted October 9, 2020 Supervisor Share Posted October 9, 2020 36 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said: Never get a Dell, heard too many horror stories... 34 minutes ago, kiddingguy said: ... that's why the "?!" I've had a couple of Dell laptops over the years (in fact I'm writing this on a Dell laptop) and I can't say I've had any major issues. My sister had an Acer laptop years ago and that seemed to work fine as well. But I've had some bad experiences with HP laptops that never seemed to last long with my friend. I realised that was partly his fault though, not HP's. My point is, you're always going to be able to find horror stories. Just get a brand that you are comfortable with. So in this case, we can rule out Acer being an option I guess. For the purposes that you've described, 8GB RAM should be fine. I can't comment on the processor though, as I know squat about them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideapad-Computer_-Hexa-Core-i5-1035G1/dp/B08J42FGTM/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=4500u&qid=1602264454&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A562241011&rnid=562234011&s=pc&sr=1-8 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-V14-ARE-Business-Hexa-Core-Bluetooth/dp/B08FL5YDJF/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=4500u&qid=1602264454&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A562241011&rnid=562234011&s=pc&sr=1-14 https://www.amazon.com/HP-Touchscreen-Premium-Six-Core-Keyboard/dp/B08JCZ8B7M/ref=sr_1_26?dchild=1&keywords=4500u&qid=1602264747&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A562241011&rnid=562234011&s=pc&sr=1-26 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 @adrynalyneThx. Looks neat! But I'm kinda looking at a 17" screen (maybe a 15"). And preferably bought in Europe (like amazon.de or amazon.nl) with US-Int. keyboard. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) Drive is a little small on first one. https://www.amazon.de/-/en/ProBook-Ryzen-4500U-256GB-12X20EA/dp/B089WGT4YY/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ryzen+4500u+15.6&qid=1602265823&s=computers&sr=1-2 https://www.amazon.nl/ASUS-M533IA-BQ031T-Ryzen-15-6-Pixels/dp/B08CZ6CDNY/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_nl_NL=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=4500u&qid=1602266109&refinements=p_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A16365514031&rnid=16365041031&s=electronics&sr=1-1 Kinda looks like if you prefer 17.3in, you will need to go with your suggestion to stay in the price range. Edited October 9, 2020 by adrynalyne Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 This one looks quite OK; Asus VivoBook M712DA-AU069T (and is in price range 679-699 euro) 15,6 inch Full-HD AMD Ryzen 5 4500U processor 8 GB RAM 512 GB SSD AMD Radeon™ Graphics (onboard) What do you guys think? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, kiddingguy said: This one looks quite OK; Asus VivoBook M712DA-AU069T (and is in price range 679-699 euro) 15,6 inch Full-HD AMD Ryzen 5 4500U processor 8 GB RAM 512 GB SSD AMD Radeon™ Graphics (onboard) What do you guys think? Looks good to me! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, adrynalyne said: Looks good to me! EDIT: it's the Asus M533IA-BQ031T with these specs: AMD Ryzen 5 4500U (8MB Cache, 2.3GHz) 39.6 cm (15.6") Full HD 1920 x 1080 IPS 8GB (3200MHz) DDR4-SDRAM & 512GB SSD Windows 10 Edited October 10, 2020 by kiddingguy Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Do you guys happen to know if on this 'Asus M533IA-BQ031T' RAM can be upgraded to 16GB? I read on some sites that this RAM is fixed and on other sites that it can be expanded. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddingguy Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Got myself a nice deal on this M533IA-BQ031T.... now 599 EUR (100 EUR off for today) adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted October 10, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 hours ago, kiddingguy said: Do you guys happen to know if on this 'Asus M533IA-BQ031T' RAM can be upgraded to 16GB? I read on some sites that this RAM is fixed and on other sites that it can be expanded. Looks like it supports 16GB. Not sure... adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1401110-new-business-notebook-ryzen-7-8-gb-ram-okay/#findComment-598591436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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