Why I'm NOT buying a PS5

[margrave]

The Playstation 5 EULA is very much about the People’s Republic of China!

 

They will be recording voice chats too!!! To make sure that nothing is said against PRC

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQT3kw7COWA

Edited October 26, 2020 by margrave
Tried to get the video viewable in the post. I guess it's not possible.

[Jim K Global Moderator]

28 minutes ago, margrave said:

The Playstation 5 EULA is very much about the People’s Republic of China!

 

They will be recording voice chats too!!! To make sure that nothing is said against PRC

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQT3kw7COWA

 

/sigh

 

I do not know who this guy is .... but he should do some more research. This EULA is not trying to suppress Hong Kong's citizens to speak out against China.  The EULA specifically excludes Hong Kong and Taiwan when listing the rules (or whatever) for "China Mainland"

 

 

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For the purposes of the Personal Information Collection Statement, PlayStation™Network Terms of Service and User Agreement and PlayStation™Network Privacy Policy, "China Mainland" refers to the People's Republic of China and excludes Taiwan Region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and Macao Special Administrative Region.

 

The part in his video....

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For users with China Mainland as country/area of residence

 

You may not use your Account or use PSN in any way to create, reproduce, publish or disseminate any information which:

opposes the basic principles in the Constitution of the People's Republic of China (the "PRC");

 

endangers the security of the PRC, divulges PRC State secrets, or jeopardises the sovereignty and unification of the PRC;

 

damages the honour and interests of the PRC;

 

violates PRC policies on religion, or propagates heresies or superstition;

 

disseminates rumours, disrupts social order, or undermines social stability;

 

disseminates obscenity, pornography, gambling, violence, or instigates others to commit crimes;

 

is prohibited by PRC laws, administrative regulations and other provisions.

 

 

https://www.playstation.com/en-hk/legal/psn-terms-of-service/

[Joshie]

1 hour ago, Jim K said:

propagates heresies or superstition

Wait how can you ban both tho.

[spacelordmaster]

Who cares if its made in China? Isn't most of what we buy and use made in China? Please. Get a life and move on.

[adrynalyne]

🙄🙄🙄🙄

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

Updated title

 

As a few others have pointed out that this agreement is only applicable within China. I'd bet that a few other companies have similar terms.

[George P Global Moderator]

16 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

Updated title

 

As a few others have pointed out that this agreement is only applicable within China. I'd bet that a few other companies have similar terms.

While it sucks, in general, the terms/rules are something they probably have to implement at the "request" of the CCP.    It's really crazy the hoops one has to jump through to do business in China, and how they have to bend over or get kicked out.    More countries have to find alternatives to their manufacturing IMO.   It makes little sense to me, strategically, others can depend on one nation for even core items to be made.  

 

I'm not going to go off to much from the core topic here, but things should start to change, if anything, after this whole virus mess.

[spikey_richie]

24 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

Updated title

A better title would have been "Why I'm not buying a PS5".

[margrave]

Possible listening in, and/or watching without permission or my knowledge of such is why I won't have a webcam, keep no microphone attached to my pc, and never bought a Kinect camera.

 

The case where MS let the cops use the Kinect to see inside a house was scary enough.

 

Yes I'm paranoid.

[wakjak]

1 hour ago, margrave said:

Possible listening in, and/or watching without permission or my knowledge of such is why I won't have a webcam, keep no microphone attached to my pc, and never bought a Kinect camera.

 

The case where MS let the cops use the Kinect to see inside a house was scary enough.

 

Yes I'm paranoid.

Do you own a cell phone? Guess what? That's listening to  you too. Why do you think you get the ads that you do?

[Dick Montage]

1 hour ago, margrave said:

The case where MS let the cops use the Kinect to see inside a house was scary enough.

Source?

[margrave]

I can't find the original article anymore. It's old by now. It was done due to a home invasion or an act something similar.

 

I can only find these:

 

https://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-Kinect-NSA-Spying-Was-Done-Consent-Claims-Microsoft-60970.html

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/06/07/nsa-domestic-spying-program-makes-xbox-one-even-scarier/#3c8d3bbc47b9

[Nick H. Supervisor]

I wonder what is the worst they could do with the information they record off me? "Excuse me sir, could you come and answer some questions for us? You seemed a bit too efficient at killing those n00bs in Rainbow Six the other day, and those put downs were just brutal." Actually, even worse would be if they showed up and asked for pointers...