jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 I am begging to suspect that my internal network (LAN) is having some issues with everything that is connected to it, I am noticing that my 2 PoE camera's are frequently loosing connection for a few seconds and I am wondering if it is the router to blame, so I want to check that. Is there a way to do so? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted June 19, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted June 19, 2021 https://www.geckoandfly.com/33225/lan-network-benchmark-test-speed/ jnelsoninjax 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said: https://www.geckoandfly.com/33225/lan-network-benchmark-test-speed/ OK, so these all work from my PC to the Router, I really need something from the Router, just to see if there is a problem somewhere, according to the tests I just ran, I'm getting 500+ Mbs transfer speed to the router, which is great, but I need to know the over all network speeds, not just my PC. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted June 19, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted June 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, jnelsoninjax said: OK, so these all work from my PC to the Router, I really need something from the Router, just to see if there is a problem somewhere, according to the tests I just ran, I'm getting 500+ Mbs transfer speed to the router, which is great, but I need to know the over all network speeds, not just my PC. Does your router do anything like that? Sorry, I'm out of ideas atm. BudMan? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 iperf3. Sikh 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted June 19, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted June 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: iperf3. Why didn't I think of that... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mindovermaster said: Why didn't I think of that... *shrug* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 OK, I downloaded iperf, how exactly do I use it? When I try to tell it to scan the default gateway, it says connection refused. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, jnelsoninjax said: OK, I downloaded iperf, how exactly do I use it? When I try to tell it to scan the default gateway, it says connection refused. Setup one machine to be the server and start it. Set another as the client and test against the server. https://itigic.com/iperf3-tutorial-to-measure-speed-between-two-lan-and-wifi-devices/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 19, 2021 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2021 I have been using iperf for years and years.. I started compiling the windows version because they were hard to find.. If you have any questions just ask In a nutshell pc1 iperf3 -s pc2 iperf3 -c ipaddressPC1 Here is a iperf test from my pc nas over 1gig $ iperf3.exe -c 192.168.9.10 warning: Ignoring nonsense TCP MSS 465664 Connecting to host 192.168.9.10, port 5201 [ 5] local 192.168.9.100 port 36285 connected to 192.168.9.10 port 5201 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate [ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 108 MBytes 909 Mbits/sec [ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 113 MBytes 949 Mbits/sec [ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 113 MBytes 949 Mbits/sec [ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 113 MBytes 949 Mbits/sec [ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 113 MBytes 949 Mbits/sec [ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 113 MBytes 949 Mbits/sec [ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 113 MBytes 949 Mbits/sec [ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 113 MBytes 949 Mbits/sec [ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 113 MBytes 949 Mbits/sec [ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 115 MBytes 966 Mbits/sec - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate [ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.10 GBytes 947 Mbits/sec sender [ 5] 0.00-10.03 sec 1.10 GBytes 943 Mbits/sec receiver iperf Done. Here is test over my 2.5 gig connection to same nas. $ iperf3.exe -c 192.168.10.10 warning: Ignoring nonsense TCP MSS 465664 Connecting to host 192.168.10.10, port 5201 [ 5] local 192.168.10.9 port 36290 connected to 192.168.10.10 port 5201 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate [ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 272 MBytes 2.28 Gbits/sec [ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 283 MBytes 2.37 Gbits/sec [ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 283 MBytes 2.37 Gbits/sec [ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 283 MBytes 2.37 Gbits/sec [ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 283 MBytes 2.37 Gbits/sec [ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 282 MBytes 2.37 Gbits/sec [ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 283 MBytes 2.37 Gbits/sec [ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 283 MBytes 2.37 Gbits/sec [ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 283 MBytes 2.37 Gbits/sec [ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 283 MBytes 2.37 Gbits/sec - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate [ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 2.75 GBytes 2.36 Gbits/sec sender [ 5] 0.00-10.01 sec 2.75 GBytes 2.36 Gbits/sec receiver iperf Done. Over wireless will be slower But you should be seeing 200 or so over typical AC connection from wifi to wired, wifi to wifi is going to be slower! And 400ish your router and clients can do it and get a good PHY connection. Here is my phone to my nas. If you want to test with phone - Hurricane electric has a APP that has tools for network stuff, including iperf https://networktools.he.net/ edit: Didn't you just recently add that poe switch, that you picked up for like 2$ Some off brand model never heard of.. Yeah I would be testing it via these iperf tests for sure. Take it out of the loop and just connect your stuff to your router switch ports.. And validate you get same gig speeds, etc. >I really need something from the Router You would almost never test "to" a router - router routes (and switches for most soho routers), unless your model was also hosting files off usb or something. You don't care what the OS of the router can really do for speed, what you care about is that its routing/switching your traffic through it at wire speed. That phone test, was through my router from my wireless vlan to my wired vlan where the nas sits for example. So it would take 2 trips through my switch, and through the router. phone - AP -- switch - 192.168.2 - router - 192.168.9 - switch -- nas Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 I changed the PoE switch to a TpLink, the cheap one was giving me issues... This is what I am getting from phone to PC: I have also come to the conclusion that the 'problems' that I am having are software, not hardware, for example this morning, Blue Iris (which I am using to monitor the camera's) indicated that one of the camera's was offline, but when I checked with the Reolink app and windows program, the camera is question was not offline and was working just fine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 That screenshot has bogus results. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 19, 2021 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2021 11Gbps? what? Yeah you need to edit the amount of data sent.. See how I set mine to 500M, and you prob want longer interval of time.. See how set mine to 10 Try it with those settings. And see what you get. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 19, 2021 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2021 Yeah that is pretty horrible.. No offense.. 25Mbps - that is like a 1 stream 2.4 ghz N connection.. Even at 40 is pretty bad.. Your device AC?? Here I let it show multiple readings - every second and moved 1G of data Are you on the other side of the house? Are you testing wireless to wireless while multiple other devices streaming netflix? What about wired test? This is my iphone XR, connect to my hallway AP. You can see it gets a good maxed out PHY connection for what its capable of. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 When I was testing, no other network traffic (except the camera's), and I am only ~10 feet from the router, also it wireless to wired. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 19, 2021 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2021 And your camera's wired right - or was your wireless camera also on. Even with 1 wireless camera constant streaming - from the bitrate of those cameras.. That is pretty bad. I would really suggest you test your wired speed. And Also what client - maybe the client is horrible? Is it a really old laptop with only 2.4 ghz 1 stream wireless card? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 minute ago, BudMan said: And your camera's wired right - or was your wireless camera also on. Even with 1 wireless camera constant streaming - from the bitrate of those cameras.. That is pretty bad. I would really suggest you test your wired speed. And Also what client - maybe the client is horrible? Is it a really old laptop with only 2.4 ghz 1 stream wireless card? 2 wired and 1 wireless camera's. I need to put iperf on another PC in the house to test my wired speed, I will hopefully do that tonight. The client is my desktop which has a gigabit lan port. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 19, 2021 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2021 Where all the camera's writing data to the server you were writing data too? And your server is only connected at 100mbps? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, BudMan said: Where all the camera's writing data to the server you were writing data too? And your server is only connected at 100mbps? The camera's were not writing any data during the test. I'm not sure how to tell what my desktop is connected at. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 19, 2021 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2021 Look at the interface or the switch lights.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 19, 2021 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2021 ok so your connected at gig, so its not like your only at 100, and other data using up the pipe.. Look to see what your actually connected to via wireless.. I would hope android phone should show you - or do you have a wireless laptop? With iphone its hard.. While with the wifi developer profile installed you can get channel and vht, which will tell you if 2.4 or 5 (20 mhz, 40 or 80).. Off the top I do not know way to see the actual PHY.. stupid apple.. Maybe your wifi router will show you this info? For troubleshooting wifi issues - you really need a laptop to get info. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, BudMan said: ok so your connected at gig, so its not like your only at 100, and other data using up the pipe.. Look to see what your actually connected to via wireless.. I would hope android phone should show you - or do you have a wireless laptop? With iphone its hard.. While with the wifi developer profile installed you can get channel and vht, which will tell you if 2.4 or 5 (20 mhz, 40 or 80).. Off the top I do not know way to see the actual PHY.. stupid apple.. Maybe your wifi router will show you this info? For troubleshooting wifi issues - you really need a laptop to get info. I don't have access to a laptop right now but the other choice I have is I could enable wireless on my motherboard and use it, but I am not sure if I have the antenna hooked up right now, as I never use wireless from my desktop. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 20, 2021 MVC Share Posted June 20, 2021 Wireless we can work on - lets make sure your wired network is good.. Lets see that 900 mbps iperf test.. You were saying having issues when you using the new switch right. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1408967-test-the-speed-of-internal-network-not-internet/#findComment-598653378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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