Bruinator Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) Hi, My amazon account has been hacked 3 times in the past 4 years and I am tired of this happening. After the 1st time, I setup a 2 step verification to prevent this from happening and that didnt work. What is the best protocol to follow to prevent this from happening again. I use to keep my creds logged in all the time but I stopped doing that. Every time I use my CC on amazon I delete my credit card number so it is not listed after using it. It seems like 2 step verification doesnt work either. The only other thing I can think of is changing my email address to a different one. Your suggestions would be appreciated. Also, what email provider (free) do you guys recommend on using as yahoo doesnt seem to secure, if it ever was? TIA Edited July 18, 2021 by Bruinator Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted July 18, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted July 18, 2021 That's pretty crazy. I've just taken a look at their 2FA setup, and it sends a OTP to your phone number...you're telling me that someone is intercepting your SMS to access your Amazon account? What are you using for a password? Is it something very simple, or are you using a password manager to store an incredibly complex code? If you're deleting your CC information each time you use the service, I'm not sure what someone could do if they accessed your account? Order things that would change Amazon's future suggestions for you? Bruinator 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted July 18, 2021 MVC Share Posted July 18, 2021 Define hacked. Are you getting those tech support scams emails / phone calls saying your Amazon account has been hacked? Or has it actually been hacked? Bruinator and +Dick Montage 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruinator Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 18/07/2021 at 17:40, Nick H. said: That's pretty crazy. I've just taken a look at their 2FA setup, and it sends a OTP to your phone number...you're telling me that someone is intercepting your SMS to access your Amazon account? What are you using for a password? Is it something very simple, or are you using a password manager to store an incredibly complex code? If you're deleting your CC information each time you use the service, I'm not sure what someone could do if they accessed your account? Order things that would change Amazon's future suggestions for you? Expand Gift card Nick. On 18/07/2021 at 17:42, warwagon said: Define hacked. Are you getting those tech support scams emails / phone calls saying your Amazon account has been hacked? Or has it actually been hacked? Expand Actually buying things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted July 18, 2021 MVC Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 18/07/2021 at 17:49, Bruinator said: Gift card Nick. Actually buying things. Expand You see things actually show up as purchased in your amazon account that you did not buy? Is your account setup on an Alexa Device? Could a child be talking to that device ordering stuff? Bruinator 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruinator Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 18/07/2021 at 17:53, warwagon said: You see things actually show up as purchased in your amazon account that you did not buy? Is your account setup on an Alexa Device? Could a child be talking to that device ordering stuff? Expand i dont have any kids. I have 1 nephew who never comes here and yes, amazon and i have seen these things on my account. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted July 18, 2021 MVC Share Posted July 18, 2021 Do you have an alexa? Bruinator 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruinator Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 18/07/2021 at 18:04, warwagon said: Do you have an alexa? Expand no Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruinator Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 18/07/2021 at 18:09, Bruinator said: no Expand So do you guys recommend changing my yahoo password, changing my amazon account password and keeping 2 step verification as another measure of security? I use a Lastpass manager as my way of remembering my PW's that I provide. Would it be safer to have Lastpass to generate the codes for me and save PW's that way? Also, for some unknown reason my Cell phone provider didnt set up reaccuring payments when i switched back to them last month, some of you know i tried a different provider but i ended up swtiching back to them. Your opinions on my lastpass question is appreciated. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted July 18, 2021 MVC Share Posted July 18, 2021 Always use two factor where available. Have LastPass create you a nice 12+ character gibberish password for amazon, yahoo and any other website you can account with. Bruinator, +FloatingFatMan and Nick H. 2 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted July 19, 2021 MVC Share Posted July 19, 2021 I also personally recommend you doing a print out of your LastPass passwords and keeping it in a safety deposit box, safe or in a safe spot. I also personally have a portable version of Keep pass on two disconnected USB flash drives that I export my LastPass passwords into. Case and point, one day LastPass had a hiccup on their server and twitter was going insane, it was pretty entertaining actually. Everyone was screaming ...ZOMG LastPass is down, I have work to do but can't log into any of my accounts!!!!! Bruinator 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruinator Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 19/07/2021 at 15:26, warwagon said: I also personally recommend you doing a print out of your LastPass passwords and keeping it in a safety deposit box, safe or in a safe spot. I also personally have a portable version of Keep pass on two disconnected USB flash drives that I export my LastPass passwords into. Case and point, one day LastPass had a hiccup on their server and twitter was going insane, it was pretty entertaining actually. Everyone was screaming ...ZOMG LastPass is down, I have work to do but can't log into any of my accounts!!!!! Expand For some reason lastpass isnt working for me as I must be doing something wrong. I am logged out of amazon, deleted any entry of amazon in lastpass. When i go to amazon again, fill in user name, click on lastpass icon on the right and select to generate a password and it fills it in, click to sign in it says wrong password. What am I doing wrong plz? TIA Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnelsoninjax Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Have you checked your computer for viruses/malware? That is most likely how your info is getting leaked. You might even go one step further and use Sandboxie when you shop Amazon. Also change your email account. Get a brand new address on a different service and use it only for Amazon. Bruinator 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598661994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruinator Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 20/07/2021 at 03:15, jnelsoninjax said: Have you checked your computer for viruses/malware? That is most likely how your info is getting leaked. You might even go one step further and use Sandboxie when you shop Amazon. Also change your email account. Get a brand new address on a different service and use it only for Amazon. Expand Those are great ideas, thx a bunch. Didnt think of email address just for amazon and sandboxie. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598662063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaCrip Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) On 19/07/2021 at 22:00, Bruinator said: For some reason lastpass isnt working for me as I must be doing something wrong. I am logged out of amazon, deleted any entry of amazon in lastpass. When i go to amazon again, fill in user name, click on lastpass icon on the right and select to generate a password and it fills it in, click to sign in it says wrong password. What am I doing wrong plz? Expand To me that sounds like you deleted the password you use to sign into Amazon. because when you generate a new one in your password manager you need to change it on the Amazon site itself first before getting rid of your old password and then using a new one the password manager generates. that's why I always have multiple backup copies if my password managers password database file (I use 'Password Safe' from pwsafe.org as it's completely offline password storage only. I have been using this since roughly 2005-2007 with no problems ) in case anything happens to my primary database file. p.s. but first I would make sure your computer is virus free. if your not sure, I would wipe the drive and reinstall the OS clean as then you can be pretty darn sure your computer is virus free. also, Gmail is definitely a better choice than Yahoo is for a mainstream email provider that's reliable. besides Yahoo email got hacked years ago exposing pretty much everyone which basically screams they can't be trusted. I still have a Yahoo email myself, but once I learned of that I made sure nothing important was tied to my Yahoo email. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598662075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Biscuits Brown MVC Posted July 20, 2021 MVC Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 19/07/2021 at 22:00, Bruinator said: For some reason lastpass isnt working for me as I must be doing something wrong. I am logged out of amazon, deleted any entry of amazon in lastpass. When i go to amazon again, fill in user name, click on lastpass icon on the right and select to generate a password and it fills it in, click to sign in it says wrong password. What am I doing wrong plz? TIA Expand Not even close to how a password manager is used for this Log into amazon with your normal email and password. Navigate to you Account and to the change password feature User LastPass to generate a strong password. Paste that into the new password field If LastPass offers to save the entry, let it but ensure it got both the email and password set Use LastPass to log into Amazon in the future Bruinator 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598662077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Lots of great advice. I still don't understand how 2 step could be circumvented though? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598662084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruinator Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 20/07/2021 at 11:08, Biscuits Brown said: Not even close to how a password manager is used for this Log into amazon with your normal email and password. Navigate to you Account and to the change password feature User LastPass to generate a strong password. Paste that into the new password field If LastPass offers to save the entry, let it but ensure it got both the email and password set Use LastPass to log into Amazon in the future Expand Now it is working correctly. TYVM for this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1409734-amazon-account-question/#findComment-598662125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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