theshining Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 I am a newbie here, I was told that my question will be answered here. I need to buy a VPN that is secure, keeps no record of its customer, and is reliable for content unblocking. As far as I have done my research I have shortlisted a few VPNs like Nord, express, surfshark, and purevpn. All of these are big brands so it is obvious that these VPNs will be expensive. Are there any other VPNs that are economical and ethical too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Bot, Bad Bot Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) Expensive is subjective but I am a big fan of Mullvad VPN at about $5 a month. No account/email required and they accept numerous payment options including Bitcoin. Their software is open source, has Wireguard support, has been audited by 3rd parties, and they do have a no logging policy. https://mullvad.net/ Edited September 7, 2021 by Good Bot, Bad Bot Gerowen, +Raze, Sikh and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulphy Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 I too had the same qustions not so long ago, and tried various ones out before settling on ExpressVPN. Been fantastic over the last nearly 2 years now. Another one i used that was good was TorGuard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted September 7, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) I used NordVPN years ago. But I haven't used it for awhile. watch this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcat Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) ExpressVPN is way too expensive and they don´t offer anything that the cheap ones don´t have, PureVPN is based in Hong Kong, China, not the best place for privacy. I would look into TorGuard or Mullvad because they have been around for many years, if they logged maybe it would have already been leaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted October 17, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted October 17, 2021 Hello, Interesting article about the business of VPN providers: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/technology/personaltech/are-vpns-worth-it.html Regards, Aryeh Goretsky +Raze and ThaCrip 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 There are free no-log VPNs - one I have been using for the past two years is ProtonVPN. (The knock on ProtonVPN is that it is free - not that that it is not no-log. ProtonVPN - like the majority of no-log VPNs - is Swiss-based.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimate99 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 19:59, goretsky said: Hello, Interesting article about the business of VPN providers: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/technology/personaltech/are-vpns-worth-it.html Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Can't read it, gotta subscribe first?? I'm looking for a VPN too but so many of them out there!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marujan Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 ONLY your own VPN is not logging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raze Subscriber² Posted November 26, 2021 Subscriber² Share Posted November 26, 2021 A good article regarding VPN services. Link I've been using Mullvad for a little over a year and have had no problems. Fast, reliable and secure. Good Bot, Bad Bot 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted November 26, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 25/11/2021 at 21:19, Raze said: A good article regarding VPN services. Link I've been using Mullvad for a little over a year and have had no problems. Fast, reliable and secure. Never heard of that one. But I guess unknown ones are best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimate99 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 25/11/2021 at 20:44, Marujan said: ONLY your own VPN is not logging I'm intrigued! On 25/11/2021 at 22:19, Raze said: A good article regarding VPN services. Link I've been using Mullvad for a little over a year and have had no problems. Fast, reliable and secure. Never heard of it.....but will check it out! On 25/11/2021 at 22:59, Mindovermaster said: Never heard of that one. But I guess unknown ones are best. Do you use one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulphy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Of all the VPN's i tested before settling on one, i personally found ExpressVPN the be the fastest one out there. Not cheap, granted, but at least i dont lose download speed! I know they recently got taken over... but afaik, they still have a strict no logging policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Wright Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I have used 2 vpns in the past. Purevpn and Expressvpn. Both are good and fast. if u are gonna get a vpn now would be a good time because they would have good black friday deals going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuculi Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I've been with Private internet Access for years, had no problems with them also has wireguard protection as well as other cool stuff like dedicated IP address but think that's extra, take a look :- Private Internet Access Plus best time to get one if you are getting one is now as its Black Friday. Xenon 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Elі Subscriber² Posted November 26, 2021 Subscriber² Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 26/11/2021 at 08:28, Nuculi said: I've been with Private internet Access for years, had no problems with them also has wireguard protection as well as other cool stuff like dedicated IP address but think that's extra, take a look :- Private Internet Access Plus best time to get one if you are getting one is now as its Black Friday. Another vote for Private Internet Access, been using it for years here as well. They are fast and reliable, not too expensive either if you pay for a full year ($39.99 for a full year) Private Internet Access That Mullvad VPN seems quite good too as well though. Xenon and Nuculi 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_K Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 As others have said, only way you're going to really get no-log is rent a VPS and host your own VPN on that, can get any cheap shell and put openvpn on it. Marujan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted November 26, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) On 26/11/2021 at 05:40, ultimate99 said: Do you use one? Yes, I used to use NordVPN and PureVPN. But I haven't used it in the past.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marujan Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) On 26/11/2021 at 09:38, Mindovermaster said: Yes, I used to use NordVPN and PureVPN. But I haven't used it in the past.. thank you for sharing your private info with Kape Technologies However, Kape Technologies’ past (previously named Crossrider) has drawn our criticism and suspicion in the past due to its software being used to distribute malware, as seen in our CyberGhost review. Defenders of Kape/Crossrider That controversial malware history might not be all it seems, though. A recent investigation by Restore Privacy indicates that Crossrider’s role was simply to create a development platform that was used and abused by third parties to spread malware. Interestingly, this Restore Privacy article quotes Andrew Lee, co-founder of Private Internet Access — another VPN that was bought by Kape Technologies Mindovermaster 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted November 27, 2021 MVC Share Posted November 27, 2021 A lot of the VPN providers have "no logs" until they get hacked and you find out they do in fact keep logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raze Subscriber² Posted November 27, 2021 Subscriber² Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 26/11/2021 at 20:26, warwagon said: A lot of the VPN providers have "no logs" until they get hacked and you find out they do in fact keep logs. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted November 27, 2021 MVC Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 26/11/2021 at 20:35, Raze said: Source? https://www.pcmag.com/news/7-vpn-services-found-recording-user-logs-despite-no-log-pledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raze Subscriber² Posted November 27, 2021 Subscriber² Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 26/11/2021 at 20:38, warwagon said: https://www.pcmag.com/news/7-vpn-services-found-recording-user-logs-despite-no-log-pledge All of those VPNs (7) were located in Hong Kong. So not "a lot of VPN providers" as you stated. Sikh 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted November 27, 2021 MVC Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 26/11/2021 at 20:44, Raze said: All of those VPNs were located in Hong Kong. So not "a lot of VPN providers" as you stated. eh, slightly talking out my ass. But you just take the word of a lot of providers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raze Subscriber² Posted November 27, 2021 Subscriber² Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 26/11/2021 at 20:45, warwagon said: eh, slightly talking out my ass. But you just take the word of a lot of providers. No. I do research first. P.S. Thanks for being honest. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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