Alec Baldwin 'discharged' prop gun that left cinematographer dead and director hospitalized on 'Rust' movie set

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On 07/03/2024 at 11:30, DocM said:

 

Multiple people were bringing live rounds on the set, they were using the fully functioning firearms for target practice between scenes. Dumb, and the lead production company did nothing to stop it. That would be El Dorado Productions, which is Alec Baldwin. He was the Executive Producer, the money guy and the decision maker.

The safety issue got so bad one entire camera crew left the set.

 

OSHA (US Occupational Safety and Health Administration) found that she was an employee, with enforcing safety procedures the responsibility of El Dorado Productions. Alec Baldwin. They fined El Dorado $137,000

Addressed above, as Executive Eroducer Baldwin was the boss, and his company denied requests by Gutierrez for more gun handling training time. One of the people she wanted to train more was Alec Baldwin.

 

 

Gun safety rule #1: ALWAYS treat a weapon as if it is loaded with live rounds. 

Baldwin also violated a basic gun handling rule:  place your trigger finger along the side of the weapon, not in the trigger loop, until you are ready to shoot somethin/someone. No exceptions. He has made many films working with firearms, you would think this sunk in.

 

 

You can buy ammo in department stores, the issue here is El Dorado allowed the crew to take firearms being used in the film and using them for target practice between scenes or during lunch. Their ammo handling procedures were also ridiculous.

This should never been allowed, and it was Baldwin's responsibility as EP to set the rules and enforce them.

I know your hell bent on blaming Baldwin and yes he has some blame but not the blame you're placing on him.  Read up what an executive producer really does, https://www.torontofilmschool.ca/blog/what-is-the-role-of-executive-producer/

Oh, Baldwin was a producer, one of many in fact and not an executive producer, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11001074/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#:~:text=...-,producer,-Kc Brandenstein

[tmorris1]

On 07/03/2024 at 05:17, Steven P. said:

I get that one should always respect gun safety, when it is a gun with live rounds, but clearly Baldwin did not expect the prop to be loaded with live bullets.

This needs to be corrected.  You ALWAYS respect gun safety with any gun, loaded or unloaded with live rounds.  The first thing anyone is taught in gun safety is to treat every gun as if it were loaded.

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On 12/07/2024 at 18:52, primortal said:

 

Everything about that case screamed New Mexico wanted to prosecute a Hollywood/New York liberal at all costs. It had nothing to do with the evidence. 

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Between the police damaging the weapon and the prosecutor withholding evidence. 🤪

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On 12/07/2024 at 16:57, Xenon said:

Everything about that case screamed New Mexico wanted to prosecute a Hollywood/New York liberal at all costs. It had nothing to do with the evidence. 

New Mexico is a blue state. But try again, this time without attempted partisan nonsense.

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The armorer is probably going to get off as well....

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The judge has dismissed the charges against Baldwin (with prejudice) amid government misconduct.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/12/entertainment/alec-baldwin-trial-rust/index.html

[wakjak]

The dummy prosecutors withheld evidence. 
 

The prosecutor also got called out for calling Alec Baldwin a c**k sucker lol yeah.. no agenda there…

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On 13/07/2024 at 06:48, Jim K said:

The armorer is probably going to get off as well....

She’s serving 18 months in prison, https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/entertainment/rust-trial-hannah-gutierrez-reed

[Xenon]

On 13/07/2024 at 04:18, PeterTHX said:

New Mexico is a blue state. But try again, this time without attempted partisan nonsense.

The state not the county prosecutors office and when the prosecutor called Alec Baldwin a cocksucker to a another witness that kinda says it all.  The other special prosecutor, Erlinda O. Johnson, resigned early Friday, saying she believed that the case should have been dismissed because of the undisclosed evidence. There was nothing normal about this case. 

Edited July 13, 2024 by Xenon

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On 13/07/2024 at 09:41, primortal said:

She’s serving 18 months in prison, https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/entertainment/rust-trial-hannah-gutierrez-reed

Yeah, I know.  Her defense is moving to have her conviction tossed after the Alec Baldwin fiasco.

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On 13/07/2024 at 07:49, Xenon said:

The state not the county prosecutors office and when the prosecutor called Alec Baldwin a cocksucker to a another witness that kinda says it all.  The other special prosecutor, Erlinda O. Johnson, resigned early Friday, saying she believed that the case should have been dismissed because of the undisclosed evidence. There was nothing normal about this case. 

Oh, so where a judge and prosecutor are biased against the defendant means the case should have been thrown out to begin with. I see. Hope you're as passionate about a recent case, say, NYC.

To not do so would reek of hypocrisy.

On 13/07/2024 at 04:18, wakjak said:

The dummy prosecutors withheld evidence. 
 

The prosecutor also got called out for calling Alec Baldwin a c**k sucker lol yeah.. no agenda there…

It's not like they contributed money to a "stop Alec Baldwin" group or anything, or ran an entire campaign based on getting Alec Baldwin, or are letting other criminals roam free while they prosecute Alec Baldwin...

[adrynalyne]

On 13/07/2024 at 11:00, PeterTHX said:

Oh, so where a judge and prosecutor are biased against the defendant means the case should have been thrown out to begin with. I see. Hope you're as passionate about a recent case, say, NYC.

To not do so would reek of hypocrisy.

It's not like they contributed money to a "stop Alec Baldwin" group or anything, or ran an entire campaign based on getting Alec Baldwin, or are letting other criminals roam free while they prosecute Alec Baldwin...

Bias has no place in ANY courtroom. Withholding evidence is pretty telling too. 

[PeterTHX]

On 13/07/2024 at 17:06, wakjak said:

Go cry somewhere else with your fake outrage.

So predictably biased from someone who advertises their TDS in their avatar. All you have is your hate. My avatars reflect my hobbies and loves.

On 13/07/2024 at 13:36, adrynalyne said:

Bias has no place in ANY courtroom. Withholding evidence is pretty telling too. 

Did they ever say what was withheld? Serious question.

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On 13/07/2024 at 18:24, PeterTHX said:

So predictably biased from someone who advertises their TDS in their avatar. All you have is your hate. My avatars reflect my hobbies and loves.

Did they ever say what was withheld? Serious question.

Yes, evidence on how the live ammo got on set. 

[Black_coffee]

Just goes to show why the US prosecutors can't really put Trump behind bar despite tons of evidence, they are either MAGA sympathizers or just plain stupid and incompetent.

[wakjak]

anyway. Alec Baldwin won this in the end thanks to biased handling of evidence and a prosecutor who wanted their 15 minutes of fame trying to take down a famous actor.

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thread cleaned

please keep the conversation on topic and cool it with the attacks or warnings will be issued.

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On 17/07/2024 at 16:15, primortal said:

 

How arrogant and stupid of him.  Just leave it alone, leave napping dogs be, they may bite if bothered.

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[PeterTHX]

On 13/07/2024 at 07:49, Xenon said:

There was nothing normal about this case. 

Quentin Tarantino's perspective:

 

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Alec Baldwin Manslaughter Case Is Over, as ‘Rust’ Prosecutor Drops Appeal

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/alec-baldwin-manslaughter-appeal-dropped-1236258765/