bikeman25 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Hello All Finished Backup of drives on this system with Macrium Reflect Home 8, now it says drive still in use, and won't eject, was gonna do the Secondary Gaming Laptop backup next today. Advice? Suggestions? nothing should be writing to the drive now Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleet Command Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 If you've activated the Image Guardian feature of Macrium Reflect, it'll retain open handles on your removable drive, so as to prevent any other software (especially malicious software) from tampering with your backups. These handles effectively prevent you from removing your drive. However, this feature is not necessary for removable drives. Removing the drive automatically protects the backup from tampering. So, feel free to disable Image Guardian or tell it to exclude your removable media from protection. Image Guardian is not the only thing that can prevent a drive from being ejected. However, diagnosing this issue could take a while. The quickest remedy is to log out, then remove your drive. Doing so closes all open apps, hence, you'll know for sure that nothing is using your removable media. (In a multi-user scenario, all users must log out.) If you are paranoid, you can restart your PC and remove your drive. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598693975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 Ok Wil log out, then remove the drive as suggested Do use Image Guardian, didn't think of that might've been preventing its removeable til now. Only user on this PC, PC Admin local account was already signed out, Standard user myself is only account signed in. Did not know if i needed Image Guardian with Reflect or Not when installed it on the systems, so just decided to go ahead and install it with it activated on both Desktop and Secondary Gaming Laptop machine Now after completely log out, can then complete the system image backup on Secondary Gaming Laptop shortly whenever i get to that task Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598693976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted November 30, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 30, 2021 Hello, Sometimes you may have to issue the drive eject command a second time after 30-45 seconds or so in order for it to be processed. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 Yeah Normally since Clean Installing Windows 11 on Main Desktop, Eject feature for the USB drives usually doesn't have too many issues, sometimes the drives eject fine, and sometimes it does can't eject drive is in use message, usually Im like it's not even anything being written to it or read now. But eventually it usually works for most part with most of the external drives Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted November 30, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 30, 2021 I'll be honest, I haven't "ejected" a drive for "safe removal" since the Vista days. Quick removal has been plenty stable in my experience. Once things are done transferring/running I just pull my drive and have never had an issue. farmeunit 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted November 30, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 30/11/2021 at 17:49, Brandon H said: I'll be honest, I haven't "ejected" a drive for "safe removal" since the Vista days. Quick removal has been plenty stable in my experience. Once things are done transferring/running I just pull my drive and have never had an issue. Expand Me too. As long as it isn't blinking, it's safe to be removed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 30/11/2021 at 17:49, Brandon H said: I'll be honest, I haven't "ejected" a drive for "safe removal" since the Vista days. Quick removal has been plenty stable in my experience. Once things are done transferring/running I just pull my drive and have never had an issue. Expand On 30/11/2021 at 18:03, Mindovermaster said: Me too. As long as it isn't blinking, it's safe to be removed. Expand I have done it that way before but had 1 drive full of music get ruined. Couldn't find a way to get around the disc needs to be formatted message after that. I eject drives again now just to be double sure it's done doing it's thing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted November 30, 2021 MVC Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 30/11/2021 at 18:41, cork1958 said: I have done it that way before but had 1 drive full of music get ruined. Couldn't find a way to get around the disc needs to be formatted message after that. I eject drives again now just to be double sure it's done doing it's thing. Expand did you run a chkdsk /f on the drive? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 Yeah learning its safe to do most of the time, just to Remove it if no light blinking on the drives. i'd be in a world of hurt though if the Backup Drive (Seagate 8TB) went bad, as it would probably takes hours to run a chkdsk /f on that drive being external lol and usb 3.0 I know Seagate tools extended long disk test took 19 hours the times i used that lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted November 30, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 30/11/2021 at 18:57, bikeman25 said: Yeah learning its safe to do most of the time, just to Remove it if no light blinking on the drives. i'd be in a world of hurt though if the Backup Drive (Seagate 8TB) went bad, as it would probably takes hours to run a chkdsk /f on that drive being external lol and usb 3.0 I know Seagate tools extended long disk test took 19 hours the times i used that lol Expand may be worth adding a 2nd backup drive then for parity in case one fails. or better long term plan, switch over to a NAS for backups if you're storing that much. much better than manually backing up to an external drive and a RAID setup will give good parity/recovery if drives fail. something to save up for if you can't currently afford and will be completely worth it for such large backups. +Warwagon 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) Mainly System backup Images with Macirum Reflect weekly, usually Differential weekly, and Full One Monthly is my typical backup plan. Checks out NAS prices for Christmas or Birthday and goes from there. As know risky using the one 8tb to backup on for all systems in household. Hopefully able to afford a NAS in the future, and then pick a great spot to put it, run another ethernet wire for the device, and such. Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 30/11/2021 at 18:46, warwagon said: did you run a chkdsk /f on the drive? Expand First thing I did. Don't know what happened to that stupid thing, but after trying several different things on it, I just left it setting for I don't know how long. Tried using it on one of my Linux machines and it worked just fine. Still had my tunes on it even. Never did format it. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen. Believe me, I've created my own weird things on computers too! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleet Command Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 30/11/2021 at 18:46, warwagon said: did you run a chkdsk /f on the drive? Expand ChkDsk /f belongs to the dark ages. On Windows 8 and later, it is either ChkDsk /scan or the Repair-Volume -Scan. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted November 30, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 30/11/2021 at 20:17, cork1958 said: First thing I did. Don't know what happened to that stupid thing, but after trying several different things on it, I just left it setting for I don't know how long. Tried using it on one of my Linux machines and it worked just fine. Still had my tunes on it even. Never did format it. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen. Believe me, I've created my own weird things on computers too! Expand was actually coming into this thread to say this may have worked. the NTFS/FAT drivers for Linux are quite a bit different compared to Windows and you often can still access a drive Windows is struggling to read due to minor corruption in the formatting table. used this method to recover things off a failing USB drive back in the XP days. cork1958 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) I may have to check out Linux somehow to recover a Failing USB Stick, be easier if i had a DVD writer on this system these days probably to do that, unless theres someway WIndows 11 Pro can, as i got 1 USB stick that Windows just refuses to read anymore for some reason Probably would use Ubuntu as sorta familair with that one a tiny bit if i did do that at some point Except No DVD Writer on Either Laptop or Desktop lol, Cheap $12.99 one i bought off Amazon come to find out won't even burn discs, but will play them ((buying a newer dvd writer if can at Christmas lol or Birthday depending on what i can afford then)) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 1, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted December 1, 2021 do you have any extra spare USB drives? no one really burns DVDs for linux live-cd environments anymore since it's so easy to do with a USB drive. Rufus will be the easiest tool for you to put linux on a USB. It's a lovely tool https://rufus.ie/en/ Mindovermaster and Fleet Command 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 Should have some extra Flash drives pretty sure, 2 that won't read on any WIndows Machine, but i got alot of others that do work So will check that out for sure then, and maybe be able to recover the files off the 2 that don't work in Windows lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted December 2, 2021 Global Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2021 On 01/12/2021 at 23:20, bikeman25 said: Should have some extra Flash drives pretty sure, 2 that won't read on any WIndows Machine, but i got alot of others that do work So will check that out for sure then, and maybe be able to recover the files off the 2 that don't work in Windows lol Expand Linux could maybe read it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 Yeah gonna give Linux a shot someway soon here, either with the Flash drive or something, and see if can read those 2 that don't work Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted December 2, 2021 MVC Share Posted December 2, 2021 On 02/12/2021 at 02:06, bikeman25 said: Yeah gonna give Linux a shot someway soon here, either with the Flash drive or something, and see if can read those 2 that don't work Expand If you ever give up on getting the files back and just want a working flash drive, give GRC's init disk a try. Apparently, it brings flash drives back from the dead, if it just has a really messed up file system. It's a Windows app. No installation required. https://www.grc.com/initdisk.htm It's got the most ingenus drive selection ever. Instead of being afraid you select the wrong drive, it will only detect a newly plugged in drive. It asks you either plug in or unplug and plug back in the drive you want to use. BRILLIANT! Brandon H and bikeman25 1 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) Thank You, Thank You That Program got it ability to read that flash drive that wasn't working at all before, now can finally recover the bit of files on it Then reformat it and hopefully continues to work for less important files,not sure i'd store important ones on as it didn't work for months lol til now 2 of 2 Not working Flash drives, successfully seen by that little program, 1st had some recoverable files, 2nd none, nuked it with the little program, and both recognized fine by Windows Now Extremely Happy Edited December 2, 2021 by bikeman25 goretsky and +Warwagon 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 2, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted December 2, 2021 On 02/12/2021 at 02:50, warwagon said: If you ever give up on getting the files back and just want a working flash drive, give GRC's init disk a try. Apparently, it brings flash drives back from the dead, if it just has a really messed up file system. It's a Windows app. No installation required. https://www.grc.com/initdisk.htm It's got the most ingenus drive selection ever. Instead of being afraid you select the wrong drive, it will only detect a newly plugged in drive. It asks you either plug in or unplug and plug back in the drive you want to use. BRILLIANT! Expand wow never heard of this tool. definitely adding it to my arsenal in case I ever need it goretsky 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598694859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman25 Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 Yes it was able to read those with Initdisk just fine, and recovered old files off the one, and other one was blank. USB ejecting working better lately most of the time thus far the times i had to eject drives. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1413287-backup-usb-drive-eject-issue/#findComment-598696276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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