DocM Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) Here we go again... Even if this flight is successful Boeing will redesign the propulsion system. Too many flaws in design and material choices. Date: May 19, 2022 Time: 1854 Eastern Pad: LC-41 Booster: Atlas V N22 Spacecraft recovery: White Sands, NM bguy_1986 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bguy_1986 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Why even do this test if they are going to redesign it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/#findComment-598733927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) On 16/05/2022 at 11:11, bguy_1986 said: Why even do this test if they are going to redesign it? The best I can come up with is if OFT-2 is successful Boeing gets a milestone payment, which would help them pay for the modifications. So far they're half a $billion in the red due to the aftermath OFT-1. Did I mention that it came out a subcontractor lost his leg during a 2017 Starliner parachute test? Kept it secret until last week. Another great example of Boeing's safety culture. bguy_1986 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/#findComment-598733938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 Starliner OFT-2 launch webcast begins today, May 19, at 1800 Eastern on NASA TV https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/#findComment-598734757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 of Starliners OMAC thrusters failed on the ride uphill, but it did recover enough to get into orbit. NASA & Boeing are determining the next steps but it's pretty certain the thruster system redesign that they were thinking about is now more certain. This means a crew mission moves even further to the right. Not sure if this is involved, but a piece fell off during launch. ULA CEO Tory Bruno saying "Ouch" is not encouraging. FloatingFatMan and bguy_1986 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/#findComment-598735080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 Starliner has done the burns for a fly around of the ISS before docking Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/#findComment-598735150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted May 21, 2022 Author Share Posted May 21, 2022 Starliner is docked at ISS, but I'll bet that thruster system gets a total redesign before any crew launches on it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/#findComment-598735173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted May 21, 2022 Author Share Posted May 21, 2022 Let's run through the OFT-2 problem list (so far); • 2 OMAC thruster failures, low chamber pressures. • 2 RCS thruster failures during approach, low chamber pressures. Almost makes you think they have a pressurization system problem. Makes the need for a complete redesign of the thruster system even more necessary. • dodgy cooling loops, thought to be moisture that froze in a filter. If these are ammonia cooling loops like ISS what's water doing in there? Yet another moisture control problem. • dodgy docking ring, which needed to be retracted and re-extended before approach & docking. Most of these problems occurred in the expendable service module, so they can't tear into it to find out what happened. I don't see this flying people anytime soon. bguy_1986 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/#findComment-598735252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bguy_1986 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) Did they ever find out what was falling from sky right after launch? Was it actually a camera? Edited May 23, 2022 by bguy_1986 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/#findComment-598735476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 Haven't heard anything. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1417975-atlas-v-boeing-starliner-orbital-flight-test-2-oft-2/#findComment-598735569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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