nekrosoft13 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Yesterday I noticed that Core Isolation and and core security information are missing from Device security. Updated 5 PCs, all 5 PCs are fully windows 11 compatible with TPM2.0, Secure boot and everything... and all 5 that I upgraded so far, have the same exact issue. Windows Security says I don't have standard hardware security, while MS info shows that its running. I found similar issues in feedback hub, but those complaints where from 22200 (21H2) build from long time ago, there are few people complaining about the new 22621 too. TPM info MSinfo shows the security tools are running Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) Core Isolation is dependent on hardware virtualization support, not TPM. Check the bios settings. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 27/05/2022 at 09:01, adrynalyne said: Core Isolation is dependent on hardware VT, not TPM. Check the bios settings. Hardware virtualization is running... and hardware virtualization on or not.. the device security tab in windows security should show security processor aka the TPM. Windows 11 21H2 for comparison... in Windows 11 22H2, it shows neither. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 27/05/2022 at 07:07, nekrosoft13 said: Hardware virtualization is running... and hardware virtualization on or not.. the device security tab in windows security should show security processor aka the TPM. Windows 11 21H2 for comparison... in Windows 11 22H2, it shows neither. Do you have Hypervisor Platform installed? I’m going off memory; I’m not at my computer yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 it wasn't installed, but I just tried again with it installed, zero difference. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMorpheousx416 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 So... what you're trying to get back, is what I have pictured? Possible that you, like the others ran into an interesting bug as it were.. where every app you use to check shows you're running all the necessary requirements and Windows just isn't cooperating with it. Wouldn't be the first time. Funny enough.. when I recently upgraded my video card, or any time I upgrade hardware... I run Hardware-Info or HWInfo64 to double check specs and features. It showed me, that somehow.. AMD-V and Secure Boot was in the "red", in other words.. they are there but not enabled. Apparently got turned off when I updated the BIOS... and Windows never even blinked. Nothing reminded me that the security features for 11 were turned off. Made zero sense. So... I go by third party apps to double check system protection items as well as making sure, like you did.. to double check with other machines that run similar hardware. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKAngel Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 all u have to do is have 1 unsuported feature and it will say that Standard hardware security not supported This means that your device does not meet at least one of the requirements of standard hardware security. my pc is also windows 11 compat and that also says the same thing Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 what build are you on? and yes, HWinfo says everything is enabled (except encryption), which is correct, just like MSinfo. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 27/05/2022 at 10:11, DKAngel said: all u have to do is have 1 unsuported feature and it will say that Standard hardware security not supported This means that your device does not meet at least one of the requirements of standard hardware security. my pc is also windows 11 compat and that also says the same thing it was fine in 21H2. all 5 PCs that I upgraded where fine in 21H2. Now all 5 in 22H2 are not. according to Microsoft https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/device-protection-in-windows-security-afa11526-de57-b1c5-599f-3a4c6a61c5e2#hardwarescore Your device meets the requirements for standard hardware security This means your device supports memory integrity and core isolation and also has: TPM 2.0 (also referred to as your security processor) CHECK Secure boot enabled CHECK DEP CHECK UEFI MAT CHECK F.G. 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) I rolled back to 22000, and everything is restored, same PC, not only do I meet the standard hardware security, I meet the enhanced hardware security There is definitely a bug in 22621 (final) 22H2 build. F.G. 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudEngineer Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) there is a bug report about this on feedback hub Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) On 27/05/2022 at 11:15, slaughterhus said: there is a bug report about this on feedback hub I saw it... but that bug report was from 10+ months ago for 22000 build in early days... Microsoft responded that it should be fixed in 22000.100, I guess they broke the same thing again. Now few people added comments that same is happening on 22621 CloudEngineer and ahmedshujah123 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMorpheousx416 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Sounds like a bug related to something in your hardware set up.. seeing as others, like myself, aren't having that issue with 22621. Fire up that report, add it to the MS list... let's see if they fix it here soon enough. I mean, we still have what, five months before it's released to the public? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598736861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedshujah123 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Same problem bro. Will it get fixed or should I rollback too and can I roll back without any data loss? Thank you for bringing this up couldn't find anything about it anywhere. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598739030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itomirai Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 It seemed that there are two problems with Windows Security on 22621 for anyone "upgrading", device security not supported and the mising of App and Browser Control section, hope this will be fixed soon tbh Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598739761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 07/06/2022 at 21:09, ahmedshujah123 said: Same problem bro. Will it get fixed or should I rollback too and can I roll back without any data loss? Thank you for bringing this up couldn't find anything about it anywhere. If you roll back, you won't loose any files but any programs that you installed or upgraded since the install of 22621 will probably be gone. On 10/06/2022 at 07:53, itomirai said: It seemed that there are two problems with Windows Security on 22621 for anyone "upgrading", device security not supported and the mising of App and Browser Control section, hope this will be fixed soon tbh just the windows security section of settings got screwed up, according to msinfo all the security options were still running, you just lost info and control of it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598739798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellowalkman Reporter Posted June 10, 2022 Reporter Share Posted June 10, 2022 Decided to post this news since many folks are facing the bug https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-22h2-build-22621-bug-shows-hardware-security-not-supported-on-supported-pcs/ Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598739888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 cool, thanks! hellowalkman 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598739917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHP Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) Hello, I am new here, I have come to this post looking for information about this problem, my laptop meets all the requirements, including enhanced security, and I also have this problem after installing 22h2, I have already sent a report to Microsoft, I It happens exactly the same as nekrosoft13, greetings from Spain. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598740125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedshujah123 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 10/06/2022 at 20:21, nekrosoft13 said: If you roll back, you won't loose any files but any programs that you installed or upgraded since the install of 22621 will probably be gone. just the windows security section of settings got screwed up, according to msinfo all the security options were still running, you just lost info and control of it Thank you so much bro. I'll just let it run they'll probably fix it when the stable version drops. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598740132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellowalkman Reporter Posted June 12, 2022 Reporter Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 12/06/2022 at 03:35, RHP said: Hello, I am new here, I have come to this post looking for information about this problem, my laptop meets all the requirements, including enhanced security, and I also have this problem after installing 22h2, I have already sent a report to Microsoft, I It happens exactly the same as nekrosoft13, greetings from Spain. We have posted the news so Microsoft should be aware of the issue by now. I believe they will re-fix the issue soon. 🙂 RHP 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598740147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) so it seems no update for 22621 today? nvm, they did release one https://msbuilds.rg-adguard.net/GetInfo?id=1203f71f-b8a9-4bf2-a4ee-390f5cb8b207 Any idea if this fixes this misreporting? Edited June 14, 2022 by nekrosoft13 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598740743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itomirai Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I'm on 22621.160 (Beta) and the problem is still there for sure. There is also 22621.105 for Release Preview so it would be nice if someone check that version. hellowalkman 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598740817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 to answer my own question the 22621.105 does not fix this issue. hellowalkman 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598740818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedshujah123 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 On 15/06/2022 at 05:04, itomirai said: I'm on 22621.160 (Beta) and the problem is still there for sure. There is also 22621.105 for Release Preview so it would be nice if someone check that version. I'm on the release preview. The problem persists for now. It's not fixed yet anywhere that means bummer. hellowalkman 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1418383-build-22621-standard-hardware-security-not-supported-in-device-security/#findComment-598740972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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