IPhone 14 Pro Max or Pixel 7 Pro

[mkol]

Hello,

 

I have £1000 to buy a phone I am not sure which one to go for. I bought 6s iPhone, 7 years back approximately. And Currently I am using 5 years old my niece phone 8plus. I have used nexus 5 in the past from Google and did enjoy the pure android experience. Can you guys shed some light on what is better and what is not. I did notice one thing though that the google hardware doesn't perform well after using it for two years. I phone can be used for long time and the hardware functions fine. 

 

Hope all you guys are well. As I am posting it after long time. 

[DramaInc]

iPhone if you want it to last.  Pixel if you want toys and customization. 

[shockz]

Battery life - iPhone 14

Connectivity standards - Pixel supports 6E - iPhone 14 still on Wifi 6

Camera - Pixel

Stock photo editing: Pixel, can practically photoshop people and objects out of the image

Wireless Car Infotainment - Apple - Every Pixel device I've owned, including a 6A has terrible Android Auto experiences... crashes and non-responsive almost every drive. On more than one car.

AI/Voice Assistant - By far Google

Smart Home - Tie, but I'd give Google the edge with broader compatibility with existing devices prior to Matter standard. Also, Google Assistant native commands

Customizations - Pixel, but outside of rooting it, there's not much excitement with launchers these days, and Apple has plenty of apps that can customize the Home Screen with widgets (including blank space widgets to mimic android Home Screen customizations). 

Updates: Apple still, but Google is getting better at long term 

Built to last: Apple

 

Depends on what you're looking for, how immersed you are with voice assistants/ecosystems. If you're looking for a good camera phone, Pixel comes out first still, but not by much, if you're looking for something to hold on to for more than 3-4 years, iPhone.

[mkol]

I want something to hold on for at least 5 years. From my past experience with google nexus way back in days doesn't last that long.  Does apple pro max worth the price though?

[shockz]

Pro Max is a big premium over a standard iPhone, but considering the standard plus model is only a hundred or so cheaper than the Pro Max, if you're looking for the bigger screen (and better battery life compared to the smaller iPhones) the Pro Max is probably the iPhone you want to get. If you don't care about the dynamic island, you can find some good deals on iPhone 13 Pro Max models. I can't tell much of a difference in day to day photography either between the 13 pros and 14 pros.

 

For what it's worth, the two personal phones I own are a Pixel 6a and a 14 Pro Max. iOS 16 is... not great yet. Even the 16.1 betas are still ######. It's probably gonna take another month or two before we get back to a stable experience. Android 13 has been rock solid, except for android auto, which is trash on any version. 

Edited October 12, 2022 by shockz

[aioraito]

Which operating system do you prefer? iOS or android

 

Get the device of the operating system you like then take it from there...

 

Unless there are specifics that you are looking for in your next device...

[tsupersonic]

On 12/10/2022 at 15:16, shockz said:

For what it's worth, the two personal phones I own are a Pixel 6a and a 14 Pro Max. iOS 16 is... not great yet. Even the 16.1 betas are still ######. It's probably gonna take another month or two before we get back to a stable experience. Android 13 has been rock solid, except for android auto, which is trash on any version. 

I've been running iOS 16 and it's stable. No crashes, slightly better battery compared to iOS 15. For longevity, I'd always go with iPhone. Google has a bad reputation of long term ownership experience. 

[McCordRm]

The past two generations, I've been using Android. Currently have the Galaxy S10+. I really hate the feel of the phone, and the screen curves over the edge so much that using it is a pain in the ass because just holding the phone triggers "touches" on the screen which interfere with what I'm doing. The iPhone, however, feels good in the hand and I never had mis-click issues with it. I'll definitely be going back to iPhone once a local store gets the Pro Max in Space Black in stock.

[jnelsoninjax]

If you like having to spend $1200-$1500 for a cell phone that will give you at best 2 years of use before it becomes too slow and you have to buy a new one, by all means buy an iPhone. If you want to spend the same amount of money, but get a phone that will last you for more than 2 years, go with the Pixel. I am still using the Pixel 4a(5G) that I paid $250 for, almost 3 years ago and I have not had to do anything to it, it is just as fast as it was the day I bought it.

[shockz]

On 18/10/2022 at 15:21, jnelsoninjax said:

If you like having to spend $1200-$1500 for a cell phone that will give you at best 2 years of use before it becomes too slow and you have to buy a new one, by all means buy an iPhone. If you want to spend the same amount of money, but get a phone that will last you for more than 2 years, go with the Pixel. I am still using the Pixel 4a(5G) that I paid $250 for, almost 3 years ago and I have not had to do anything to it, it is just as fast as it was the day I bought it.

This is not accurate. I passed my iPhone 8 Plus down to a family member when the iPhone 11 came out, they still have it, and it runs perfectly fine.

We've passed the days where devices have only 1gb of ram and ancient processors in the iPhone line up, that are crippled when more advanced iOS updates get pushed out. Betting that 8 will be forced into obsolescence though when iOS 17 or 18 comes out and it's cutoff from the upgrade cycle. I bet that 8 probably out benchmarks some new androids still.

The only time I've saw a iPhone throttle these days is when the battery is shot.

My work iPhone 11 is just as speedy as it has ever been.

[tsupersonic]

On 18/10/2022 at 15:21, jnelsoninjax said:

If you like having to spend $1200-$1500 for a cell phone that will give you at best 2 years of use before it becomes too slow and you have to buy a new one, by all means buy an iPhone. If you want to spend the same amount of money, but get a phone that will last you for more than 2 years, go with the Pixel. I am still using the Pixel 4a(5G) that I paid $250 for, almost 3 years ago and I have not had to do anything to it, it is just as fast as it was the day I bought it.

Ha! I wouldn't trust Google's support after 2 years. Google's Android platform is a mess (saying this as an Android user). Battery life is not consistent - randomly Google will push out an update (not a system update) to Google Play Services, and it will chomp battery like no other. Again it's totally random. Using Google software is like being a beta tester, you never know what experience you'll get. Besides Google not having any sort of long-term vision leads to mistrust/lack of confidence.

 

If you want longevity, and a consistent software experience, go with iPhone. You'll get much longer support for both software, and the hardware support is better (thanks to physical stores).

[+Matthew S. Subscriber²]

On 18/10/2022 at 15:21, jnelsoninjax said:

If you like having to spend $1200-$1500 for a cell phone that will give you at best 2 years of use before it becomes too slow and you have to buy a new one, by all means buy an iPhone. If you want to spend the same amount of money, but get a phone that will last you for more than 2 years, go with the Pixel. I am still using the Pixel 4a(5G) that I paid $250 for, almost 3 years ago and I have not had to do anything to it, it is just as fast as it was the day I bought it.

I use an iPhone XR at work, no slow downs what so ever nor had any battery issues, had it for over two years.  (it's what 3-4 gens behind current now?) and I run a 13 Pro Max for personal, prior for personal had an 11 Plus, still runs great.

 

On the other hand I can count numerus people running Android that have the exact experience your claiming iPhones to bring, most Android vendors barely support 1 year of OS updates let alone 4-5.

[Good Bot, Bad Bot]

On 18/10/2022 at 15:21, jnelsoninjax said:

If you like having to spend $1200-$1500 for a cell phone that will give you at best 2 years of use before it becomes too slow and you have to buy a new one, by all means buy an iPhone. If you want to spend the same amount of money, but get a phone that will last you for more than 2 years, go with the Pixel. I am still using the Pixel 4a(5G) that I paid $250 for, almost 3 years ago and I have not had to do anything to it, it is just as fast as it was the day I bought it.

I am a long time Pixel user and that is just being a fanboy at it's worse.  That is not true at all. #facepalm

Edited October 18, 2022 by Good Bot, Bad Bot

[mkol]

Thanks for the feedback people. I am thinking about Iphone.....

[Good Bot, Bad Bot]

On 18/10/2022 at 16:13, mkol said:

Thanks for the feedback people. I am thinking about Iphone.....

Probably the best idea... There is pluses and minus for each platform and their phones. I would say if you are already using an iPhone and like it just stick with it. It's harder to go from iOS to Android than vice versa.

Edited October 18, 2022 by Good Bot, Bad Bot

[REM2000]

Phones are becoming more and more accessories around the platform of choice, one big thing to consider is where is most of your data stored (it can be migrated yes but will it have all the features youve come to expect, say from your photo management?) Your apps, music, games etc.. cost of moving platforms can be expensive. Hardware accessories are also locking more people to a single platform, AirPods do work on android but work best on iPhone so i would consider that too. 

 

If you dont have too much invested in either of the platforms or can migrate easily, then the phone is personal choice. 

[jnelsoninjax]

On 18/10/2022 at 16:12, Good Bot, Bad Bot said:

I am a long time Pixel user and that is just being a fanboy at it's worse.  That is not true at all. #facepalm

I am not a fanboy at all, I am just smart enough to know that anything Apple sells is insanely overpriced and despite the few here claiming to the contrary, I have seen so many reports and talked with iPhone users who all repeat the same statement, after around 18 months to 2 years, their phones start really slowing down, giving the illusion that the phone is 'outdated' and that best thing to do is drop another $1000+ on the newest model, which will be blazing fast for awhile  until the next generation of phone comes out, then as the OS is updated to handle the new hardware, it causes the older generation phones to start slowing down.

[pmrd]

On 14/10/2022 at 05:18, McCordRm said:

The past two generations, I've been using Android. Currently have the Galaxy S10+. I really hate the feel of the phone, and the screen curves over the edge so much that using it is a pain in the ass because just holding the phone triggers "touches" on the screen which interfere with what I'm doing. The iPhone, however, feels good in the hand and I never had mis-click issues with it. I'll definitely be going back to iPhone once a local store gets the Pro Max in Space Black in stock.

So Android bad because of one specific model's screen? You do realise there are other Android phones without curved screens right? 

[tsupersonic]

On 19/10/2022 at 08:51, jnelsoninjax said:

I am not a fanboy at all, I am just smart enough to know that anything Apple sells is insanely overpriced and despite the few here claiming to the contrary, I have seen so many reports and talked with iPhone users who all repeat the same statement, after around 18 months to 2 years, their phones start really slowing down, giving the illusion that the phone is 'outdated' and that best thing to do is drop another $1000+ on the newest model, which will be blazing fast for awhile  until the next generation of phone comes out, then as the OS is updated to handle the new hardware, it causes the older generation phones to start slowing down.

The only advantage AND disadvantage to Android is the choice of manufacturer/hardware. You get plenty of choices with diverse price ranging from low end, to the flagships which are  just as expensive/more expensive than iPhones. But along with that comes the biggest disadvantage of fragmentation and varied user experience (usually bad). Also, your statement on iPhones being expensive - have you heard about the Pixel 7 Pro? You keep mentioning the Pixel 'a' series, to which iPhone SE also exists. 

 

The iPhones have the longest software update experience, and plenty of people in the world are using older iPhones without any issues. Apple even updates the older iPhones (ones not on the latest OS) with security updates. 

[DramaInc]

On 19/10/2022 at 07:51, jnelsoninjax said:

I am not a fanboy at all, I am just smart enough to know that anything Apple sells is insanely overpriced and despite the few here claiming to the contrary, I have seen so many reports and talked with iPhone users who all repeat the same statement, after around 18 months to 2 years, their phones start really slowing down, giving the illusion that the phone is 'outdated' and that best thing to do is drop another $1000+ on the newest model, which will be blazing fast for awhile  until the next generation of phone comes out, then as the OS is updated to handle the new hardware, it causes the older generation phones to start slowing down.

Ive been using iPhones for about 5 years now and I've never experienced that.  5+ years of software updates vs androids usually 2-3 is a huge value and I'd rather pay more for a device that I can either use for a long time or resell for good $.  Android Phone's wear down faster cause they're cheap (unless top of the line flagships), slow down cause android always slows down after a while and needs a factory reset, and has no resale value cause they get abandoned so quickly by the manufacturers. 

 

That's not to say I don't have beefs with Apple but I'd take iOS over Android without a second thought.  Android is so insecure (i work in infosec) and I absolutely hate them being on the corporate network.  The amount of beaconing activity is absolutely wild when you start to look at the traffic statistics.  It's pure spyware.

 

Most people don't care though and just pick what works for them so it's whatever.  People aren't gonna switch or do anything on their own anyways for the most part. It's just fanboys crying at each other. 

[Good Bot, Bad Bot]

On 19/10/2022 at 08:51, jnelsoninjax said:

I am not a fanboy at all, I am just smart enough to know that anything Apple sells is insanely overpriced and despite the few here claiming to the contrary, I have seen so many reports and talked with iPhone users who all repeat the same statement, after around 18 months to 2 years, their phones start really slowing down, giving the illusion that the phone is 'outdated' and that best thing to do is drop another $1000+ on the newest model, which will be blazing fast for awhile  until the next generation of phone comes out, then as the OS is updated to handle the new hardware, it causes the older generation phones to start slowing down.

iPhones are the most expensive phones but Pixel phones are not that far behind anymore. One could easily argue that iPhone are are a better value since it gets updates for a couple of years longer.

 

Again, iPhones are NOT known to slow down after couple of years any more than Android phones.  Most of my contacts use iPhone and that is not any kind of trend and If anything Android phones are more known for that because apps are of poorer quality and the lack of software support (security updates/fixes) many Android phones still do not receive for any length of time.

 

There is many reasons why I don't use an iPhone but it's not because they all slow down after a couple of years. Sorry, that is just wrong...

[+Eternal Tempest MVC]

On 19/10/2022 at 11:19, Good Bot, Bad Bot said:

iPhones are the most expensive phones but Pixel phones are not that far behind anymore. One could easily argue that iPhone are are a better value since it gets updates for a couple of years longer.

 

Again, iPhones are NOT known to slow down after couple of years any more than Android phones.  Most of my contacts use iPhone and that is not any kind of trend and If anything Android phones are more known for that because apps are of poorer quality and the lack of software support (security updates/fixes) many Android phones still do not receive for any length of time.

 

There is many reasons why I don't use an iPhone but it's not because they all slow down after a couple of years. Sorry, that is just wrong...

One reason an iPhone may slow down is if battery capacity drops below 80%. But older phones > 80% battery capacity still run at full speed.