Is ssd and hd storage technology behind, outdated and too small for its time?

[kifirefox]

Why don't they make a 40TB ssd and a 400TB hd, for example? Why do I believe they can much more storage capacity, than they do. And they can lower the price through artificial intelligence, and there are files, videos and images in 4K that consume a lot of space on the hd, and that's why I see it necessary to have a 400 TB hd, as something normal and current and not something for the year 2100 . They seem to make little terabytes and charge a lot for the price.

 

Note

It's just a rant, because I'm tired of buying 2 TB hd since the 2000s and technology never advances and improves, they invented the 4 TB ssd 2.5, but they didn't invent a 40 TB ssd 3.5, which they could do this, I don't see as many computer technicians who think this is impossible for our current technology. They seem like they don't want to increase space, and have the 1TB ssd paradigm is “good” and doesn't need more storage space than that. I don't agree with this small-minded idea.

[Rudnartim]

https://www.techradar.com/best/large-hard-drives-and-ssds

they are insanely expensive 

[binaryzero]

Computer technicians...LOL!

[spaceelf]

On 21/10/2022 at 04:14, kifirefox said:

Why don't they make a 40TB ssd and a 400TB hd, for example? Why do I believe they can much more storage capacity, than they do. And they can lower the price through artificial intelligence, and there are files, videos and images in 4K that consume a lot of space on the hd, and that's why I see it necessary to have a 400 TB hd, as something normal and current and not something for the year 2100 . They seem to make little terabytes and charge a lot for the price.

 

Note

It's just a rant, because I'm tired of buying 2 TB hd since the 2000s and technology never advances and improves, they invented the 4 TB ssd 2.5, but they didn't invent a 40 TB ssd 3.5, which they could do this, I don't see as many computer technicians who think this is impossible for our current technology. They seem like they don't want to increase space, and have the 1TB ssd paradigm is “good” and doesn't need more storage space than that. I don't agree with this small-minded idea.

Because of the medium itself.  HDs and SSDs have very specific production issues...you can't just throw more platters in a hard drive and call it a day after a certain point, and NAND is still relatively expensive to produce (though it's improving all the time, that also drives demand higher...)

 

Further on towards 2030 we could see newer techs come in the market, but it likely won't be priced competitively with existing tech at first since most people don't need a huge increase.

[+InsaneNutter MVC]

Like batteries it would be nice if storage technology could advance faster, to some degree it has, it's just not affordable to the average person yet.

 

Enterprise wise you can get 100TB 3.5" SSD's, such as the Nimbus ExaDrive, however those are at least $40,000!

On 21/10/2022 at 10:14, kifirefox said:

It's just a rant, because I'm tired of buying 2 TB hd since the 2000s

Very late 2000's for consumer 2TB drives: https://hexus.net/tech/news/storage/17018-western-digital-launches-worlds-first-2tb-hard-drive/

 

You can add a 0 on the end of that today and buy 20TB: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/20tb-western-digital-ultrastar-hc560-sata-hard-drive-35-hdd-sata-6gb-s-7200rpm-512mb-cache-512e-4096

 

Hopefully by the early the 2030's 200TB+ and beyond will be affordable. You only need to look at how cheap good 1TB Micro SD cards have become now to see how things are progressing.

[shockz]

What average person needs a 400TB drive?

Enterprise server infrastructure, sure, and hopefully it'd be used as part of some redundant data strategy, but I've yet to come anywhere near close to maxing out a drive I've bought in the last 10 years for personal use.

[cork1958]

On 21/10/2022 at 10:09, shockz said:

What average person needs a 400TB drive?

Enterprise server infrastructure, sure, and hopefully it'd be used as part of some redundant data strategy, but I've yet to come anywhere near close to maxing out a drive I've bought in the last 10 years for personal use.

Yeah, I have a couple desktops here that only have 80GB SSD drives in them and nowhere near full. Don't save squat but still.

[+Warwagon MVC]

On 21/10/2022 at 09:09, shockz said:

What average person needs a 400TB drive?

Enterprise server infrastructure, sure, and hopefully it'd be used as part of some redundant data strategy, but I've yet to come anywhere near close to maxing out a drive I've bought in the last 10 years for personal use.

I could use one. But I would have to buy 2, 1 as a backup of the other.

[shockz]

On 21/10/2022 at 13:30, Warwagon said:

I could use one. But I would have to buy 2, 1 as a backup of the other.

What could you possibly have 400TB space requirements for? 1000 security cameras that need 30 day video history? Most people's Plex library's don't even come close to that..

Edited October 21, 2022 by shockz

[+Warwagon MVC]

On 21/10/2022 at 12:55, shockz said:

What could you possibly have 400TB space requirements for? 1000 security cameras that need 30 day video history? Most people's Plex library's don't even come close to that..

It would just last me a while.

[adrynalyne]

On 21/10/2022 at 02:14, kifirefox said:

Why don't they make a 40TB ssd and a 400TB hd, for example? Why do I believe they can much more storage capacity, than they do. And they can lower the price through artificial intelligence, and there are files, videos and images in 4K that consume a lot of space on the hd, and that's why I see it necessary to have a 400 TB hd, as something normal and current and not something for the year 2100 . They seem to make little terabytes and charge a lot for the price.

 

Note

It's just a rant, because I'm tired of buying 2 TB hd since the 2000s and technology never advances and improves, they invented the 4 TB ssd 2.5, but they didn't invent a 40 TB ssd 3.5, which they could do this, I don't see as many computer technicians who think this is impossible for our current technology. They seem like they don't want to increase space, and have the 1TB ssd paradigm is “good” and doesn't need more storage space than that. I don't agree with this small-minded idea.

Computer technicians are vastly less in the "know" than the people who design and build this stuff. I get a lot of clients who think "xxx feature" is simple and quick to implement. Some are insistent. The people developing it though, those are in the know.

[Good Bot, Bad Bot]

On 21/10/2022 at 13:55, shockz said:

What could you possibly have 400TB space requirements for? 1000 security cameras that need 30 day video history? Most people's Plex library's don't even come close to that..

For storing all the porn out there obviously as all those OnlyFan chicks are putting out content like daily you know.

Edited October 21, 2022 by Good Bot, Bad Bot

[Good Bot, Bad Bot]

The reason why the disk storage is not increasing to those sizes is because of something called physics. You can only compact data so dense on the same damn form factor for a price someone could actually afford.

 

They can use AI to lower prices? Huh? Be honest are you on drugs right now?

 

TBH It sounds like you are the one who is out dated. I suppose everyone could have their own personal 400 TB NAS storage boxes and store every 4K movie that exists individually but does that really sound efficient at all? We live in the age of  high speed Internet, streaming, and on-demand video now. Right? Sure you can store all that data yourself if you want but the market for that for home users is very limited. Those disk sizes don't even make sense for the data center because accessing data on really "large" disks is to slow compared to having more "smaller" disks.

Edited October 21, 2022 by Good Bot, Bad Bot