19 Things Linux Users Never Say

[+Matthew S. Subscriber²]

 

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

No, but, umm...  

[Arceles]

What can I say... the video is more or less quite on point. Then again, I fiddled with MSDos and recently I got an amd advantage laptop and... it was a breeze, now rocking debian 12 (testing)

[Nick H. Supervisor]

I'm certainly guilty of the "I've got it set up just how I like it, I'm not going to fiddle with it anymore...no, definitely not" one. But that's because I treat my Linux partition like a playground and learning environment so I don't mind if I bork something.

The "I'll provide a simple, step-by-step solution" one is a pain though. I was trying to troubleshoot something and I kept coming across guides that seemed to start halfway through. "Once you've modulated the flux capacitor to 1.22 jigowatts you just need to do this..." Uh-huh...now I need to find another guide to explain modulating the flux capacitor...

[+Raphaël G. MVC]

On 22/01/2023 at 09:50, Nick H. said:

I'm certainly guilty of the "I've got it set up just how I like it, I'm not going to fiddle with it anymore...no, definitely not" one. But that's because I treat my Linux partition like a playground and learning environment so I don't mind if I bork something.

The "I'll provide a simple, step-by-step solution" one is a pain though. I was trying to troubleshoot something and I kept coming across guides that seemed to start halfway through. "Once you've modulated the flux capacitor to 1.22 jigowatts you just need to do this..." Uh-huh...now I need to find another guide to explain modulating the flux capacitor...

That's indeed a problem. Besides, many problems are usually quite easy to resolve. While looking for solutions, I often find posts (blogs and forums), with cryptic and sometimes complicated commands. While solving the problem usually doesn't require any of those. Concrete example from this week. I recently installed Arch LInux and noticed that some characters (the copyright symbol being one of them) in my own developed apps weren't displaying (they were in another distro I used before). Online all I could find were commands to check locales, and rebuild font caches. In the send, I just had to install a certain font and everything was solved.

[zikalify Editor]

Spot on, though, I have more or less given up on distrohopping due to my advanced age (29, lol) and am too lazy to do it now but did do it a lot before.

[nerim]

On 22/01/2023 at 14:52, zikalify said:

Spot on, though, I have more or less given up on distrohopping due to my advanced age (29, lol) and am too lazy to do it now but did do it a lot before.

Advanced age! 😧🤪🤣😉

[JustGeorge]

On 22/01/2023 at 08:19, Raphaël G. said:

That's indeed a problem. Besides, many problems are usually quite easy to resolve. While looking for solutions, I often find posts (blogs and forums), with cryptic and sometimes complicated commands. While solving the problem usually doesn't require any of those. Concrete example from this week. I recently installed Arch LInux and noticed that some characters (the copyright symbol being one of them) in my own developed apps weren't displaying (they were in another distro I used before). Online all I could find were commands to check locales, and rebuild font caches. In the send, I just had to install a certain font and everything was solved.

Sometimes I find Linux terminal commands to be about as easy to memorize as ipv6 addresses and UUIDs. They just don't register in my head, so I have to keep note of them somewhere. I guess I'm being unfair though, cause Powershell has the same effect on me. 

[adrynalyne]

On 23/01/2023 at 05:34, JustGeorge said:

Sometimes I find Linux terminal commands to be about as easy to memorize as ipv6 addresses and UUIDs. They just don't register in my head, so I have to keep note of them somewhere. I guess I'm being unfair though, cause Powershell has the same effect on me. 

Yeah I’ve had the same issue and I’ve been using Linux off and on since 2001. Eventually some of it becomes second nature but I would be lying if I said I didn’t rely on terninal buffer history. Same with Powershell.  PSReadline is an amazing module for PS, btw. 

[PeterTHX]

This isn't the Year of Linux on the desktop?

[Arceles]

On 23/01/2023 at 09:46, PeterTHX said:

This isn't the Year of Linux on the desktop?

No, it isnt... is just that windows 11 has been a fail two whole years... when that is the case you begin to hear how a few people changes OS, namely me going to Debian 11 after my whoile life using Windows and even liking Vista and 8 (with start menu change)

[+Raphaël G. MVC]

On 23/01/2023 at 16:46, PeterTHX said:

This isn't the Year of Linux on the desktop?

It's been the year of he Linux desktop on my computer for 15 years.

[+Raphaël G. MVC]

On 23/01/2023 at 13:34, JustGeorge said:

Sometimes I find Linux terminal commands to be about as easy to memorize as ipv6 addresses and UUIDs. They just don't register in my head, so I have to keep note of them somewhere. I guess I'm being unfair though, cause Powershell has the same effect on me. 

Same thing here. I can just remember the commands to install or update packages  All the others I keep in scripts or notes. I still find commands handier than Windows actions though. It's just copy paste and execute from my notes, instead of reading tutorials with click here, then click there, then do this, then do that.

[Arceles]

On 23/01/2023 at 12:24, Raphaël G. said:

Same thing here. I can just remember the commands to install or update packages  All the others I keep in scripts or notes. I still find commands handier than Windows actions tohugh. It's just copy paste and execute from my notes, instead of reading tutorials with click here, then click there, then do this, then do that.

I have a whole Debian folder in my favourites toolbar, and each one of the links points to a thing that I have to do in order. I only remember exactly where to look for the commands that are way more complex than the usual apt install, dpkg -i

[Software Dev Expert]

On 23/01/2023 at 12:34, JustGeorge said:

Sometimes I find Linux terminal commands to be about as easy to memorize as ipv6 addresses and UUIDs. They just don't register in my head, so I have to keep note of them somewhere. I guess I'm being unfair though, cause Powershell has the same effect on me. 

 

Surely if you’re a regular Linux user you’d at the very least recall cd and ls commands? Else you wouldn’t be able to navigate your file system and that would be concerning  

I struggled a while with chmod commands and understanding what the letters and numbers all mean, and I still get muddled sometimes

 

[adrynalyne]

On 25/01/2023 at 16:03, Software Dev Expert said:

 

Surely if you’re a regular Linux user you’d at the very least recall cd and ls commands? Else you wouldn’t be able to navigate your file system and that would be concerning  

I struggled a while with chmod commands and understanding what the letters and numbers all mean, and I still get muddled sometimes

 

You assume those are the commands they forgot. 

[Software Dev Expert]

On 25/01/2023 at 23:05, adrynalyne said:

You assume those are the commands they forgot. 

Whoops I missed the word “sometimes” 😝

 

What commands would you say you find hardest to remember @JustGeorge?

[DannyWang33]

That's indeed a problem. Besides, many problems are usually quite easy to resolve. While looking for solutions, I often find posts (blogs and forums), with cryptic and sometimes complicated commands

[theefool]

On 23/01/2023 at 08:57, adrynalyne said:

Same with Powershell.  PSReadline is an amazing module for PS, btw. 

I knew about inline predictions, but reading on this and finding out it can display so much more by pressing F2, OMG.  Thanks!!

[Software Dev Expert]

On 12/02/2023 at 11:28, DannyWang33 said:

That's indeed a problem. Besides, many problems are usually quite easy to resolve. While looking for solutions, I often find posts (blogs and forums), with cryptic and sometimes complicated commands

Yeah it takes time to break it down sometimes. You need to google every operator and command.

 

It can be a barrier when you’re faced with a complex problem having not solved simpler problems previously. 

[PluralGrey]

Mint just works for me

[satukoro]

On 25/01/2023 at 18:08, Software Dev Expert said:

Whoops I missed the word “sometimes” 😝

 

What commands would you say you find hardest to remember @JustGeorge?

https://xkcd.com/1168/

For me it's always the tar commands and chmod commands.

[sysadminafterdark]

I've settled on RHEL. We use it at work and it makes for a very nice desktop with the help of a few tweaks and plugins. You kids can take a hike with your fancy stuff. I need something that's gonna work every. single. time. and has trusted company behind it that picks up the phone. My desk:

[+Matthew S. Subscriber²]

I think the main problem with Desktop Linux is that if there is some issue you're almost always expected to jump down to the terminal to resolve it instead of proper safe fallbacks using GUI's, that right there is why Windows and to an extent macOS have the desktop market share that they have.

[Arceles]

On 01/04/2023 at 13:24, Matthew S. said:

I think the main problem with Desktop Linux is that if there is some issue you're almost always expected to jump down to the terminal to resolve it instead of proper safe fallbacks using GUI's, that right there is why Windows and to an extent macOS have the desktop market share that they have.

well using linux is using the terminal, but rarely you have to delve in it blindly, most of the times the OS works and internet works so you just can check which commands to input.

For example, my rx7900xtx was not working in debian until recenlty, and all i Had to do is sudo apt-get update/sudo apt-get upgrade/sudo apt-get full-upgrade and now everything works as expected.