+Matthew S. Subscriber² Posted April 2, 2023 Author Subscriber² Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 01/04/2023 at 15:53, Arceles said: well using linux is using the terminal, but rarely you have to delve in it blindly, most of the times the OS works and internet works so you just can check which commands to input. For example, my rx7900xtx was not working in debian until recenlty, and all i Had to do is sudo apt-get update/sudo apt-get upgrade/sudo apt-get full-upgrade and now everything works as expected. And see thats the main problem, we're all nerds/geeks here, we're fine with jumping to a terminal, average users are not. devHead, Software Dev Expert and rabaneteoioi 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598809884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 01/04/2023 at 18:10, Matthew S. said: And see thats the main problem, we're all nerds/geeks here, we're fine with jumping to a terminal, average users are not. Precisely. While that all sounds trivial, we know full well it is not for the average user, not by any stretch. Software Dev Expert, +Matthew S. and rabaneteoioi 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598809889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 01/04/2023 at 19:10, Matthew S. said: And see thats the main problem, we're all nerds/geeks here, we're fine with jumping to a terminal, average users are not. On 01/04/2023 at 20:05, adrynalyne said: Precisely. While that all sounds trivial, we know full well it is not for the average user, not by any stretch. Again, this is nowhere near nerd stuff. Nerd stuff is actually compiling your own kernel or modules, this is as easy as it gets. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598809910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Matthew S. Subscriber² Posted April 2, 2023 Author Subscriber² Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 02/04/2023 at 02:04, Arceles said: Again, this is nowhere near nerd stuff. Nerd stuff is actually compiling your own kernel or modules, this is as easy as it gets. Except it is. adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598809919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Elі Subscriber² Posted April 2, 2023 Subscriber² Share Posted April 2, 2023 LOL very on point! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598809937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 01/04/2023 at 23:04, Arceles said: Again, this is nowhere near nerd stuff. Nerd stuff is actually compiling your own kernel or modules, this is as easy as it gets. It absolutely is. +Matthew S. and PluralGrey 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598809959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software Dev Expert Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 On 02/04/2023 at 07:04, Arceles said: Again, this is nowhere near nerd stuff. Nerd stuff is actually compiling your own kernel or modules, this is as easy as it gets. It may not be nerd stuff but it's definitely only for tech-savvy users. +Matthew S. and pololy07 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598810241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted April 17, 2023 Supervisor Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 02/04/2023 at 08:04, Arceles said: Again, this is nowhere near nerd stuff. Nerd stuff is actually compiling your own kernel or modules, this is as easy as it gets. There is certainly a spectrum of "nerd stuff." But if I told my mother, my sister, even most of my friends that in order to update their OS or programs they need to open the terminal and type in a command, they won't bother with it. With that said, I have found in Mint that the Software Manager is quite good at notifying the average user about there being an update available which is why I've been able to move a couple of friends over to Linux when their machine has become too old. They don't need to access the terminal. I just do it because I find it more entertaining. Arceles 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598813376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 17/04/2023 at 11:39, Nick H. said: There is certainly a spectrum of "nerd stuff." But if I told my mother, my sister, even most of my friends that in order to update their OS or programs they need to open the terminal and type in a command, they won't bother with it. With that said, I have found in Mint that the Software Manager is quite good at notifying the average user about there being an update available which is why I've been able to move a couple of friends over to Linux when their machine has become too old. They don't need to access the terminal. I just do it because I find it more entertaining. I've been using Linux for a good while now and I still try to avoid the command line like the plague! Everything I've ever needed to do can be done from a gui and as easily as it is on Windows. Sure, there have been the rare occasions where I've had to look up some command for doing something, but I can't stand using command line. As far as trying to remember any commands, I don't even try. As far as the command line being more entertaining, I find it to be a total PITA! Once I've shown others how easy it is to update Linux, most people say they can't believe it isn't wildly more popular. Arceles 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598813415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geecko Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 23/01/2023 at 07:57, adrynalyne said: Yeah I’ve had the same issue and I’ve been using Linux off and on since 2001. Eventually some of it becomes second nature but I would be lying if I said I didn’t rely on terninal buffer history. Same with Powershell. PSReadline is an amazing module for PS, btw. I understand your experience with using Linux and relying on terminal buffer history. Over time, with consistent usage, many aspects of working with Linux become second nature. However, it's completely normal to rely on tools and features that make your workflow more efficient. In the case of Linux, the terminal buffer history can be a powerful tool for recalling and reusing previously executed commands. It allows you to save time and avoid repetitive typing. The command history is accessible through keyboard shortcuts or by using commands like history or Ctrl+R for reverse search. Similarly, PowerShell users can benefit from the PSReadline module. PSReadline enhances the command line editing experience in PowerShell by providing features like syntax coloring, tab completion, and multiline editing. It makes working with PowerShell more intuitive and efficient, allowing users to be more productive. By leveraging these tools and modules, you can streamline your workflow and become more proficient in using the command line interface of both Linux and PowerShell. On 02/04/2023 at 04:48, Matthew S. said: Except it is. True!. Arceles and loveflower 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1425134-19-things-linux-users-never-say/page/2/#findComment-598828710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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