LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted April 3, 2023 Veteran Share Posted April 3, 2023 Let me start with, I know my RAM modules are not specifically listed in the Support list for this motherboard. I bought the Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite AX motherboard. I have also purchased 2 Kits of "G.Skill 32GB 2X D5 6000 C36 FX B" (if needed, I also have 1000W power supply, a Ryzen 9 7950X, and an nVidia 3090 in this system for specifications. I am also running 2x 2TB Samsung NVMe M.2 Storage drives) When I use 2 Sticks situated in slots A2 and B2 The PC boots fine with zero issues and just plane works. If I populate with the other 2 slots, the BIOS can see all the RAM and let me configured EXPO and everything "appears" fine. However, it can never progress further than the BIOS screen. (I have tried with EXPO on and off with the same results) I have heard from many places looking this up to just "Leave it be" for 5-10 minutes for it to train or whatnot. however, even leaving it for Half an hour to 45 minutes it just did nothing. The fans are all on Max tilt as well as the DRAM light on the motherboard being on during this time. When you look up that light in the manual, it just tells you that there is something wrong with the RAM and to look into it. No codes or error logs can be found on the BIOS or system level. I have tried swapping the RAM sticks around as well as replacing a set wholesale and the issue still persists. Is this particular motherboard, or just X670 in general just not ready for 4 sticks of RAM or am I alone in trying to put this particular set of kits in this particular motherboard to learn the lesson of compatibility the hard way? hellowalkman 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellowalkman Reporter Posted April 3, 2023 Reporter Share Posted April 3, 2023 On 03/04/2023 at 23:52, Geoffrey B. said: I have heard from many places looking this up to just "Leave it be" for 5-10 minutes for it to train or whatnot. however, even leaving it for Half an hour to 45 minutes it just did nothing. okay so this looks like memory training isn't the issue then. Ryzen DDR5 support is very finicky at the moment. Alongside disabling EXPO, have you tried raising the DRAM voltage to see if that helps? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598810247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted April 3, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2023 From your RAM link, it says: Quote Do not mix memory kits. Memory kits are sold in matched kits that are designed to run together as a set. Mixing memory kits will result in stability issues or system failure. I think this is your issue. Also, via the AMD CPU, you can only run at 5200. The RAM is rated as 6000. It should automatically clock down to lower level, but.. I think the above is more of the problem. I do not know if the problem still persists, but I remember that some boards had problems when all 4 slots are populated.. Astral 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598810248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted April 3, 2023 Author Veteran Share Posted April 3, 2023 On 03/04/2023 at 14:35, Mindovermaster said: From your RAM link, it says: I think this is your issue. Also, via the AMD CPU, you can only run at 5200. The RAM is rated as 6000. It should automatically clock down to lower level, but.. I think the above is more of the problem. I do not know if the problem still persists, but I remember that some boards had problems when all 4 slots are populated.. They are not mixed and matched its 2 identical kits of 2x 16GB DRAM Sticks. I will try to get back in and clock it down to 5200 on the EXPO settings and see if that helps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598810252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted April 3, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) On 03/04/2023 at 13:42, Geoffrey B. said: They are not mixed and matched its 2 identical kits of 2x 16GB DRAM Sticks. I will try to get back in and clock it down to 5200 on the EXPO settings and see if that helps. The 2 separate kits can be different, though. I'd personally buy a set of 4 rather than 2x2. But, see if clocking it down in BIOS helps. Astral 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598810253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted April 3, 2023 Supervisor Share Posted April 3, 2023 as mentioned DDR5 RAM has been very finicky with Ryzen. You may need to try going down to 2 sticks to see if that stabilizes things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598810258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted April 3, 2023 Author Veteran Share Posted April 3, 2023 On 03/04/2023 at 15:01, Brandon H said: as mentioned DDR5 RAM has been very finicky with Ryzen. You may need to try going down to 2 sticks to see if that stabilizes things. with just the 2 sticks it works perfectly fine, There just was not availability for a 64GB Kit with 2 sticks at the time, I tried clocking at 5200 on all 4 sticks and it still does not boot so I think for now I am going to stick with the 32GB of Ram on the 2 sticks and wait for availability of 64GB on 2 sticks. for 90% of workloads yes 32 is plenty but I have been doing some machine learning and other tasks locally on my machine that just suck up RAM like its water. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598810291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudEngineer Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) You can try checking if there are BIOS updates that improve DDR5 compatibility for your specific board as another troubleshooting step. Otherwise, You may need to take the 2 kits back and get a single 4x kit if you have your heart set on running 4 sticks. Ideally a validated kit.. leadfoot69 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598810346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted April 4, 2023 Supervisor Share Posted April 4, 2023 Hello, If you try inserting one stick from the first kit and one stick from the second kit and then powering up the system, does it POST? Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598810365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixion Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) This is really common with Ryzen 7000 series, motherboard BIOS updates have been improving things but there's still a way to go (support for 4 sticks also wasn't great on the 12th Gen intel CPUs when they first came out although supposedly better with 13th Gen). If you really need 64Gb and can still return what you have I would suggest shopping around for a 2x32Gb kit. Ultimately it's a first gen memory controller on the CPU and things will improve as DDR5 becomes more ubiqitous going forward. Might be worth giving it a try at JEDEC speeds (4800MHz) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598810371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted April 6, 2023 Author Veteran Share Posted April 6, 2023 OK, I got it working, sorta. Forgive the absolute horrible photo. All 4 sticks are recognized at a Much lower speed (they are all 6000MT/S sticks) however, they are in there, So long as I keep EXPO Disabled it will boot into Windows and even Windows recognizes all 64GB of RAM. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598811052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted April 6, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 06/04/2023 at 09:33, Geoffrey B. said: OK, I got it working, sorta. What you mean by that? It's working, so why "sort of"? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598811070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted April 11, 2023 Author Veteran Share Posted April 11, 2023 On 06/04/2023 at 11:28, Mindovermaster said: What you mean by that? It's working, so why "sort of"? It works in that the PC Is booting, however, Gigabyte is uncertain why I am only getting 3600 out of it, They seam to believe I should be getting in the 5000ish range. We knew from the beginning we would never see 6000 on it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598811971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0w480 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) Just got 2 sticks DDR5 5200 for my friend with an ASUS x670 TUF and as everyone is telling you atm DDR5 has been finicky with Ryzen... had to update bios and let them at 4800mhz atm... so we need to wait a little bit to see if they manage to get them fixed and working with higher frequencies, I saw on reddit someone getting 6000mhz with an MSI mobo... but well... this happens when hardware is newish... Got a lot of BSOD, restarts, DX errors, everything was ok... so I managed to get all stability at default frequency... we need a fix ASAP Mindovermaster 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598812077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 You're running a super old version of your BIOS, you need to get the latest one F37a. https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-I-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios This will fix your issue. Then enable EXPO I or EXPO II or EXPO tweaked (try all of the expo options) and you will be able to run the RAM at it's intended speed 6000Mhz. This goes for any new mobos especially if it's for a new socket\CPU model. I have a Asus X670E Hero and couldn't do anything with my 7950x3d or my RAM until I updated to the latest 1004 BIOS goretsky 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598812169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Redelings Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Hi, I have a related problem. Not sure if I should start a new thread or not. I've also got an X670 Aorus Elite motherboard. I've managed to boot (and install Linux) with 1 32 Gb RAM stick in the A2 slot, but if I put a second matched stick in the B2 slot then I can't even get to the BIOS. Weirdly, either stick works in the A2 slot, so it doesn't appear to be a bad RAM stick. The CPU is a Ryzen 7900X and the power supply is 850W. The RAM is "CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 5200 (PC5-41600) C40 1.25V Intel XMP Memory. Corsair, at least, seems to think that this is compatible with this particular motherboard. I updated the BIOS from F5 to F7, cleared the CMOS, and that hasn't fixed the issue. Any thoughts on what might be the problem? Has anyone else seen something like this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598812194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted April 12, 2023 Author Veteran Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) On 12/04/2023 at 09:42, HoochieMamma said: You're running a super old version of your BIOS, you need to get the latest one F37a. https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-I-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios This will fix your issue. Then enable EXPO I or EXPO II or EXPO tweaked (try all of the expo options) and you will be able to run the RAM at it's intended speed 6000Mhz. This goes for any new mobos especially if it's for a new socket\CPU model. I have a Asus X670E Hero and couldn't do anything with my 7950x3d or my RAM until I updated to the latest 1004 BIOS F8A is the absolute latest version of the BIOS for this motherboard I just linked the wrong one up there let me get that sorted. The name of the board is correct, but the link was to my old motherboard that I replaced. https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X670-AORUS-ELITE-AX-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598812280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted April 12, 2023 Author Veteran Share Posted April 12, 2023 On 12/04/2023 at 11:31, Ben Redelings said: Hi, I have a related problem. Not sure if I should start a new thread or not. I've also got an X670 Aorus Elite motherboard. I've managed to boot (and install Linux) with 1 32 Gb RAM stick in the A2 slot, but if I put a second matched stick in the B2 slot then I can't even get to the BIOS. Weirdly, either stick works in the A2 slot, so it doesn't appear to be a bad RAM stick. The CPU is a Ryzen 7900X and the power supply is 850W. The RAM is "CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 5200 (PC5-41600) C40 1.25V Intel XMP Memory. Corsair, at least, seems to think that this is compatible with this particular motherboard. I updated the BIOS from F5 to F7, cleared the CMOS, and that hasn't fixed the issue. Any thoughts on what might be the problem? Has anyone else seen something like this? it might not be the RAM it might be the B2 port, When I was reaching out to support about the issue they were concerned that the ports on the Motherboard might be the issue as its a common issue with their production across products right now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598812284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 On 13/04/2023 at 04:26, Geoffrey B. said: F8A is the absolute latest version of the BIOS for this motherboard I just linked the wrong one up there let me get that sorted. The name of the board is correct, but the link was to my old motherboard that I replaced. https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X670-AORUS-ELITE-AX-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios Oh damn, I should have figured it out when I didn't see your BIOS version in that list. Have you tried the different EXPO modes if you have them? Mine has EXPO I/II and Tweaked Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598812392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted April 13, 2023 Author Veteran Share Posted April 13, 2023 On 12/04/2023 at 19:28, HoochieMamma said: Oh damn, I should have figured it out when I didn't see your BIOS version in that list. Have you tried the different EXPO modes if you have them? Mine has EXPO I/II and Tweaked Mine only shows the single EXPO (I) Mode, I am uncertain how to load or add extra EXPO modes or even if I can just manually set the information I need to get it to work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598812519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Your board may not have it, either way this will be a BIOS related issue. As your mobo and RAM should be compatible as both are EXPO compatible to get to the intended 6000 speeds. What did support tell you specifically? Is this a known issue or they are guessing it could be the slots on the board itself? They don't have your RAM listed as a supported kit but that shouldn't mean anything as the EXPO compatible part should take care of it and my kit wasn't in the list for my board and worked fine (2x16GB Corsair) When you used 2x in the main slots were you able to load the EXPO profiles and get the correct speed? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1427579-gigabyte-x670-not-accepting-4-sticks-of-ram/#findComment-598812659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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