Mockingbird Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 With all the attention on the M.2 NVMe SSDs these days, M.2 SATA SSDs are getting harder to find. Yes, M.2 SATA SSDs are still available, but there aren't many models, and many of what is available aren't reasonably priced. hellowalkman 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted August 11, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2023 Why would you ever need M.2 SATA? They're slow, and not as reliable as their NVME counterparts. Only older hardware actually uses M.2 SATA frives. Sikh 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdderallBuyersClub Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 You can still find em. Dogfish is a vendor that makes em. They sell on Amazon. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 10/08/2023 at 22:08, Mindovermaster said: Why would you ever need M.2 SATA? On 10/08/2023 at 22:08, Mindovermaster said: Only older hardware actually uses M.2 SATA frives. You just answered your own question. Nogib 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinestar Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 WD m.2 sata is still available in my country. Approx USD95 for 1TB. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted August 11, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) On 11/08/2023 at 00:32, Mockingbird said: You just answered your own question. That was a question to you.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 05:14, skylinestar said: WD m.2 sata is still available in my country. Approx USD95 for 1TB. I believe that Western Digital is the only major player who still makes M.2 SATA SSDs. The problem is that the WD Blue SA510, unlike the original WD Blue, is very unreliable and has a very short life (usually a couple of months). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorD Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) Uh.....going out on a limb here m.2 is a socket and sata is a socket....2 completely different things. Going to offer some further clarification that you can just buy an adapter and turn a m.2 into a SATA interface Edited August 11, 2023 by DoctorD Jaybonaut and Nogib 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 07:28, DoctorD said: Uh.....going out on a limb here m.2 is a socket and sata is a socket....2 completely different things. 2 Types of M.2 SSDs: SATA and NVMe - Kingston Technology goretsky 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted August 11, 2023 MVC Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 00:08, Mindovermaster said: Why would you ever need M.2 SATA? I'm confused by that statement. He obviously has hardware that requires it and doesn't have support for NVME. I know you also mentioned older hardware, but still. He needs one or at least some kind of adapter. goretsky and hellowalkman 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted August 11, 2023 MVC Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 10/08/2023 at 23:40, Mockingbird said: With all the attention on the M.2 NVMe SSDs these days, M.2 SATA SSDs are getting harder to find. Yes, M.2 SATA SSDs are still available, but there aren't many models, and many of what is available aren't reasonably priced. I'm seeing them all over Amazon if I search for M.2 Sata SSD. https://www.amazon.com/ROGOB-Performance-Internal-Desktop-Laptop/dp/B095S9H214/ref=sr_1_19?crid=3U92HIZC7XEC4&keywords=m.2+sata+ssd&qid=1691767009&sprefix=m.2+sata+ssd%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-19 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) On 11/08/2023 at 08:17, Warwagon said: I'm seeing them all over Amazon if I search for M.2 Sata SSD. https://www.amazon.com/ROGOB-Performance-Internal-Desktop-Laptop/dp/B095S9H214/ref=sr_1_19?crid=3U92HIZC7XEC4&keywords=m.2+sata+ssd&qid=1691767009&sprefix=m.2+sata+ssd%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-19 I am talking about drives from major brands like Samsung, Micron/Crucial, etc. Yes, there are random companies in Asia that still make these drives, but would you trust these drives with your data? I certainly wouldn't. Yonah 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 08:14, Warwagon said: I'm confused by that statement. He obviously has hardware that requires it and doesn't have support for NVME. I know you also mentioned older hardware, but still. He needs one or at least some kind of adapter. Exactly. You can't replace an M.2 SATA SSD with an M.2 NVME SSD in older hardware that does not support M.2 NVME SSD. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorD Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 10:39, Mockingbird said: 2 Types of M.2 SSDs: SATA and NVMe - Kingston Technology mSATA interface slot, there is the clarification. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted August 11, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 10:17, Warwagon said: I'm seeing them all over Amazon if I search for M.2 Sata SSD. https://www.amazon.com/ROGOB-Performance-Internal-Desktop-Laptop/dp/B095S9H214/ref=sr_1_19?crid=3U92HIZC7XEC4&keywords=m.2+sata+ssd&qid=1691767009&sprefix=m.2+sata+ssd%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-19 You would trust that (ROGOB)? I wouldn't trust that... With that said...there are m.2 SATA drives to choose from (WD blue/red, Team Group, PNY). Assuming the reason they aren't as plentiful as NVME is the market for them is just so small. Aside from older setups....why would you go SATA vs NVMe? The cost of NVMe is ridiculously close to (or cheaper than) SATA. No brainer really....doubt too many are wanting the latest and greatest SATA drive to plug into their m.2 slot...so manufacturers aren't making them. For those with older setups...there are still options out there. Yonah 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted August 11, 2023 MVC Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 12:11, Jim K said: You would trust that (ROGOB)? I wouldn't trust that... With that said...there are m.2 SATA drives to choose from (WD blue/red, Team Group, PNY). Assuming the reason they aren't as plentiful as NVME is the market for them is just so small. Aside from older setups....why would you go SATA vs NVMe? The cost of NVMe is ridiculously close to (or cheaper than) SATA. No brainer really....doubt too many are wanting the latest and greatest SATA drive to plug into their m.2 slot...so manufacturers aren't making them. For those with older setups...there are still options out there. For larger slots they have Green's and blues https://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-240GB-Green-Internal/dp/B09TMVV6CQ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3O0VP0B9R0QNP&keywords=m.2+sata+ssd+wd&qid=1691782706&sprefix=m.2+sata+ssd+wd%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-3 and for a smaller one . I've used this company before. https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-128GB-MTS430S-Solid-TS128GMTS430S/dp/B07KG2G152/ref=sr_1_43?crid=3HV3S9XM48S6T&keywords=m.2%2Bsata%2Bssd&qid=1691783011&sprefix=m.2%2Bsata%2Bssd%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-43&th=1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 12:39, Warwagon said: For larger slots they have Green's and blues https://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-240GB-Green-Internal/dp/B09TMVV6CQ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3O0VP0B9R0QNP&keywords=m.2+sata+ssd+wd&qid=1691782706&sprefix=m.2+sata+ssd+wd%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-3 and for a smaller one . I've used this company before. https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-128GB-MTS430S-Solid-TS128GMTS430S/dp/B07KG2G152/ref=sr_1_43?crid=3HV3S9XM48S6T&keywords=m.2%2Bsata%2Bssd&qid=1691783011&sprefix=m.2%2Bsata%2Bssd%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-43&th=1 This is what I mean when I said "many of what is available aren't reasonably priced". Right now, 1TB M.2 NVME costs around $30 to $40. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted August 11, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 16:44, Mockingbird said: This is what I mean when I said "many of what is available aren't reasonably priced". Right now, 1TB M.2 NVME costs around $30 to $40. $30-40? I'd go a bit more than that.. Try $50-60. There are ones lower, yes, but they are all weird-named and not well known. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 14:54, Mindovermaster said: $30-40? I'd go a bit more than that.. Try $50-60. There are ones lower, yes, but they are all weird-named and not well known. $27.99 M.2 NVMe SSD from MSI MSI SPATIUM M450 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - Newegg.com Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted August 11, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 17:03, Mockingbird said: $27.99 M.2 NVMe SSD from MSI MSI SPATIUM M450 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - Newegg.com Yeah, that's on sale. Look at the original price, bro.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_here Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 How often are you guys replacing your M.2 mSATA drives? Just buy something adequate to hold you over until you can replace the host device with something modern. +Warwagon 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 21:17, i_was_here said: How often are you guys replacing your M.2 mSATA drives? Just buy something adequate to hold you over until you can replace the host device with something modern. M.2 SATA ≠ mSATA goretsky 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted August 12, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 12/08/2023 at 01:34, Mockingbird said: M.2 SATA ≠ mSATA I think he just got confused.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 Anyhow, there are only three realistic options on the market. Silicon Power A55 1TB: $34.97 Amazon.com: Silicon Power 1TB A55 M.2 SSD SATA III Internal Solid State Drive 2280 SU001TBSS3A55M28AB : Electronics TEAMGROUP MS30 1TB: $34.99 Amazon.com: TEAMGROUP MS30 1TB with SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC M.2 2280 SATA III 6Gb/s Internal Solid State Drive SSD (Read/Write Speed up to 530/480 MB/s) Compatible with Laptop & PC Desktop TM8PS7001T0C101 : Electronics WD Blue SA510 1TB: $49.99 WD Blue 1TB SA510 M.2 Internal Solid State Drive SSD - WDS100T3B0B - Newegg.com The Silicon Power and the Teamgroup are DRAMless, which would make the Western Digital an idea choice except that reviews indicates it has a very high failure rate. goretsky 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted August 12, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2023 Of course it has a higher failure rate. It's older.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1432323-m2-sata-ssds-are-getting-harder-to-find/#findComment-598842732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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