fluxcapacitor Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 There are countless articles online on how to remove the UAC shield icon from shortcuts and absolutely none of them work. I run Windows 11 with UAC disabled. I do not need nor want it. But I also have several of my Desktop shortcuts set to "run as admin". Is there an actual working way to get rid of them, they are quite annoying and make my icons look like ######. Deleting the cache won't work because I don't want to remove "run as admin", the shield icon just comes back. Is it possible to get rid of these ugly shields without enabling UAC or removing "run as admin"? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluxcapacitor Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 Not to mention that clearing the cache doesn't seem to be truly possible because even in safe mode the files in users\*username*\appdata\local\microsoft\windows\explorer that are named with "iconcache" are always in use so even via command prompt you can't truly delete them. Annoying. AF. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598851743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newinko Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) You can't do that easily, because behind the scenes, you can't actually turn off UAC. What the "Never notify" setting of the User Account Control Settings does is, as it says, is to never notify you when a program is launched with elevated privileges. But the principle of least-privilege remains. If you remove the shield icon, you won't have any way of knowing that a specific program or shortcut will be launched using elevated privileges. That's a security risk. There might be a way to remove the shield (that is technically an Explorer overlay icon), but it seems that, for the shield icon, Microsoft has implemented some changes in the latest updates to disallow removing that specific overlay. Say you find a working workaround: it might be not stick because a future update will revert the change. If you really don't want the shield overlay for a given icon on your Desktop, a better workaround would be to: Create a .bat to launch the desired program (so the .bat won't run elevated, but the program launched by the .bat will) Make a shortcut to this .bat, and then Customize the shortcut's icon so that it has the launched program's icon There is a how-to here. Edited September 21, 2023 by Newinko Good Bot, Bad Bot 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598851786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devHead Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Doesn't Winaero Tweaker have a setting to remove them? I won't comment on the foolishness of trying to turn off a feature that literally keeps someone from ruining your computer. The other option? Don't have shortcuts to apps on your Desktop. I will never understand why some folks insist on shortcuts on their desktop. Matthew S., Steven P., cork1958 and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598851832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 21/09/2023 at 13:26, devHead said: I won't comment on the foolishness of trying to turn off a feature that literally keeps someone from ruining your computer. Expand You keep saying that but it is user choice, you are not entitled to demerit, just because you say so, somebody's choice on how they want windows to be handled. adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598851839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuman Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Winaero Tweaker does have several options for UAC disable. Link provided. https://winaero.com/winaero-tweaker/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598851847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Bot, Bad Bot Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 21/09/2023 at 13:48, Arceles said: You keep saying that but it is user choice, you are not entitled to demerit, just because you say so, somebody's choice on how they want windows to be handled. Expand Who is saying it's not an user choice? One can certainly comment that something is not a good security practice. You should not assume the OP has any idea what they are doing. The fact they thought they "disabled" UAC (when didn't) and stated they don't need it suggests they do not. devHead 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598851892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 21/09/2023 at 15:52, Good Bot, Bad Bot said: Who is saying it's not an user choice? One can certainly comment that something is not a good security practice. You should not assume the OP has any idea what they are doing. The fact they thought they "disabled" UAC (when didn't) and stated they don't need it suggests they do not. Expand You can warn but not demerit because for the latter you are also assuming the user understanding of what it is doing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598851894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris000001 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) A trick that I use is to run programs that need UAC elevation through the Windows Task Scheduler. I create a task that starts a program that needs elevation. I make sure to select to "Run with highest privileges" and "Allow task to be run on demand". Then I create a shortcut to run that task, like: C:\Windows\System32\schtasks.exe /Run /TN "The exact name of the task you just created" That shortcut will have the command prompt icon by default, but you just right-click and "change icon" and point to the executable of the program in the task to select that icon. You can also rename the shortcut to the name of the program. That shortcut will now launch without a UAC popup and no shield on the icon. Plus, UAC is still running at the default level theoretically protecting you a little. edit: I forgot that I also select to "run minimized" so I don't see the command prompt when the shortcut is used. So far all of my programs still pop up normally. goretsky 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598851959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devHead Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 21/09/2023 at 13:48, Arceles said: You keep saying that but it is user choice, you are not entitled to demerit, just because you say so, somebody's choice on how they want windows to be handled. Expand I can demerit. The default is to protect the user. He doesn't want to be protected or think he needs to be. I have an opinion that is different from his, and mine is the right one, because it's the one that protects my computer. You're right, he can do whatever he wants and do not care if he wants to. But I can demerit him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DewThePDX Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 22/09/2023 at 04:26, devHead said: I can demerit. The default is to protect the user. He doesn't want to be protected or think he needs to be. I have an opinion that is different from his, and mine is the right one, because it's the one that protects my computer. You're right, he can do whatever he wants and do not care if he wants to. But I can demerit him. Expand To be fair, it's not even demeriting. You're just stating the facts. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 22/09/2023 at 04:26, devHead said: I can demerit. The default is to protect the user. He doesn't want to be protected or think he needs to be. I have an opinion that is different from his, and mine is the right one, because it's the one that protects my computer. You're right, he can do whatever he wants and do not care if he wants to. But I can demerit him. Expand Suuuuure, just because you say so. Sere is a uno reverse card for you, if you really wanted to be secure you would not be using windows and since it is *my opinion* is the correct one. Typical. Good Bot, Bad Bot, corrosive23 and adrynalyne 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew S. Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 22/09/2023 at 16:41, Arceles said: Suuuuure, just because you say so. Sere is a uno reverse card for you, if you really wanted to be secure you would not be using windows and since it is *my opinion* is the correct one. Typical. Expand In the past that may have been true, but it's due more to obscurity not actual security. macOS has vulnerabilities. iOS has vulnerabilities. Android has vulnerabilities (arguably more than iOS). Windows has vulnerabilities. Linux has vulnerabilities. BSD has vulnerabilities. UAC is the graphical equivalent of the sudo command on *nix, as such it should never be bypassed if you want to keep good security practices. goretsky, Dutchie64, adrynalyne and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 22/09/2023 at 16:54, Matthew S. said: In the past that may have been true, but it's due more to obscurity not actual security. macOS has vulnerabilities. iOS has vulnerabilities. Android has vulnerabilities (arguably more than iOS). Windows has vulnerabilities. Linux has vulnerabilities. BSD has vulnerabilities. UAC is the graphical equivalent of the sudo command on *nix, as such it should never be bypassed if you want to keep good security practices. Expand Every single OS has vulnerabilities... but then again, whose servers are most of the stuff being run on? Linux. And if there are vulnerabilities to be addressed is exactly there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satukoro Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 What's the point of running something as an administrator if you are an administrator and you have user account control disabled? Wouldn't that just run it in the security context of your current user? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DewThePDX Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 22/09/2023 at 16:41, Arceles said: Suuuuure, just because you say so. Sere is a uno reverse card for you, if you really wanted to be secure you would not be using windows and since it is *my opinion* is the correct one. Typical. Expand Problem is when you try to use opinion to defeat fact. Fact always wins. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 23/09/2023 at 04:07, DewThePDX said: Problem is when you try to use opinion to defeat fact. Fact always wins. Expand That is cute, therefore, you can demerit because of facts instead of using facts to advise of the dangers of having a particular setting being removed... not surprised really. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devHead Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 23/09/2023 at 04:44, Arceles said: That is cute, therefore, you can demerit because of facts instead of using facts to advise of the dangers of having a particular setting being removed... not surprised really. Expand You keep using that word, 'demerit'. I don't think it means what you think it means. robertwnielsen and Good Bot, Bad Bot 1 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 23/09/2023 at 13:48, devHead said: You keep using that word, 'demerit'. I don't think it means what you think it means. Expand Way too late for you to say that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DewThePDX Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 23/09/2023 at 14:14, Arceles said: Way too late for you to say that. Expand It's really not. All I'm seeing here is a pile of logical fallacies in search of a dopamine hit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 LOL this entire thread... adrynalyne and satukoro 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 24/09/2023 at 06:26, DewThePDX said: It's really not. All I'm seeing here is a pile of logical fallacies in search of a dopamine hit. Expand Cool, the only fallacy I see here is how a bunch of people that believe themselves security experts think that everything should be one way, the windows way and I seriously disagree with it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devHead Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 24/09/2023 at 14:14, Arceles said: Cool, the only fallacy I see here is how a bunch of people that believe themselves security experts think that everything should be one way, the windows way and I seriously disagree with it. Expand A bunch of people who think that the way Windows helps protect your PC is the correct way. We're not security experts, but I would say that someone who wants to disable a security feature is also NOT a security expert. Plus, it doesn't matter whether you agree with the way Windows handles security for the PC - heck, you're not even running Windows according to your signature. So who are you to keep posting here and trying to correct others? A fallacy means that something is false. Are you saying that it's false to assume that having UAC enabled helps keep a PC more secure than when it's completely disabled? Try running everything in Debian as root. Would you do that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) On 24/09/2023 at 14:44, devHead said: A bunch of people who think that the way Windows helps protect your PC is the correct way. We're not security experts, but I would say that someone who wants to disable a security feature is also NOT a security expert. Plus, it doesn't matter whether you agree with the way Windows handles security for the PC - heck, you're not even running Windows according to your signature. So who are you to keep posting here and trying to correct others? A fallacy means that something is false. Are you saying that it's false to assume that having UAC enabled helps keep a PC more secure than when it's completely disabled? Try running everything in Debian as root. Would you do that? Expand Because you simply do not know and your assumptions are making you look rather silly. Sure I do not for the most part use windows, but I have to use it in my ROG ALLY because Linux is not supported there yet. And I have been using windows even prior it had a GUI for it to know how the entire PC landscape, as well as security, works and that is why I switched to Linux after Window 11 came in. TRUE, you expose yourself to dangers whenever setting administrator rights to everything and this is a problem for the user that does not know anything and handle such PC as a normal everyday use one, but that does not mean that such case has an use, for example, in offline PCs and or legacy applications. The absolute view of the people that things should be handled one way here is just baffling, unable to accept that there are reasons to do stuff out of the conventional way, quite akin to fascism. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devHead Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 24/09/2023 at 14:50, Arceles said: Because you simply do not know and your assumptions are making you look rather silly. Sure I do not for the most part use windows, but I have to use it in my ROG ALLY because Linux is not supported there yet. And I have been using windows even prior it had a GUI for it to know how the entire PC landscape, as well as security, works and that is why I switched to Linux after Window 11 came in. TRUE, you expose yourself to dangers whenever setting administrator rights to everything and this is a problem for the user that does not know anything and handle such PC as a normal everyday use one, but that does not mean that such case has an use, for example, in offline PCs and or legacy applications. The absolute view of the people that things should be handled one way here is just baffling, unable to accept that there are reasons to do stuff out of the conventional way, quite akin to fascism. Expand Fascism? What are you smoking bro? The OP is not using Windows 11 for offline or legacy usage. I'm talking in general about how UAC protects your PC. You're right; I don't know his use case, but I know that any computer with UAC enabled is generally more secure than without it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1433711-how-to-remove-uac-shield-icon-from-shortcuts-when-uac-is-disabled/#findComment-598852521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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