Mockingbird Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) On 30/10/2023 at 02:16, JaredFrost said: I believe Windows 10 is feature complete and they're winding down to it's EOL in 2025, it doesn't really make sense to take resources away from improving/fixing Windows 11 and development on Windows 12 to add new features to an OS that will be out of support in 2 years.(ignoring LTSB versions of course) Expand I would feel the same way and tell everyone to upgrade to Windows 11, but the (arbitrary) system requirements that Microsoft imposed on Windows 11 mean that the majority of PCs can't run Windows 11 and are stuck on Windows 10. Edited October 30, 2023 by Mockingbird Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598860874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredFrost Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 02:24, Mockingbird said: I would feel the same way and tell everyone to upgrade to Windows 11 except that the (arbitrary) system requirements that Microsoft imposed on Windows 11 mean that the majority of PCs can't run Windows 11 and are stuck on Windows 10. Expand I don't know how arbitrary it is, but luckily my PC just makes the cut even though it's a 7th Gen but it and my motherboard supports TPM 2.0, so it's supported. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice, but I understand why they've done what they've done, and the line has to be somewhere and no matter where you put the line someone isn't going to be happy about it. Probably the bigger issue in my mind is in 2 years, when we either have mounds of e-waste that didn't need to exist yet and/or far too many outdated and insecure OS' connected to the internet, I doubt many will move to Linux/ChromiumOS to live out life until death. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598860875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted October 30, 2023 Supervisor Share Posted October 30, 2023 No thanks. I didn't use Clippy, I don't use Cortana, and I don't want another piece of software foisted on me. If they made it optional then sure. I just wouldn't install it. But it's Microsoft, if they implemented it for Windows 10 then we would all have to suffer. xrobwx71, satukoro, aphanic and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598860923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 10:28, Nick H. said: No thanks. I didn't use Clippy, I don't use Cortana, and I don't want another piece of software foisted on me. If they made it optional then sure. I just wouldn't install it. But it's Microsoft, if they implemented it for Windows 10 then we would all have to suffer. Expand Couldn't agree more! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598860940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) On 30/10/2023 at 10:28, Nick H. said: No thanks. I didn't use Clippy, I don't use Cortana, and I don't want another piece of software foisted on me. If they made it optional then sure. I just wouldn't install it. But it's Microsoft, if they implemented it for Windows 10 then we would all have to suffer. Expand Clippy can't answer complex biology and chemistry questions. Comparing Copilot/Bing Chat to Clippy is like comparing an airplane to a kite. +Dick Montage 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598860952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted October 30, 2023 Supervisor Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 12:26, Mockingbird said: Clippy can't answer complex biology and chemistry questions. Comparing Copilot/Bing Chat to Clippy is like comparing an airplane to a kite. Expand I think you misunderstood why I brought up Clippy and Cortana. I know that they might not be the same as Copilot. But Clippy and Cortana have been useless tools for me that Microsoft have bundled into their software because they think they know better. I don't use Copilot, I have no intention of using Copilot. So why should I have to have it on my system? As I said before, if they made it an optional installation then fine. But Microsoft wouldn't do that, so I disagree with the idea that it should be added to Windows 10. snowy owl, cork1958 and satukoro 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598860973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
margrave Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Sure, spy on everyone Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598861013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satukoro Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 22:19, Mockingbird said: For many in academia (students, professors, researchers, etc.), Copilot is a godsend. It's unfortunate that Microsoft is keeping Copilot to Windows 11 since many PCs don't meet the system requirements. Expand New software tools sometimes call for hardware upgrades. Hardware upgrades are sometimes part of the cost of research and education. Microsoft has nothing to gain from developing new features on an old operating system, even if the old OS has a high market share as they would want to push folks to their newest offering where possible. /thread aphanic, +Dick Montage, adrynalyne and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598861038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted October 30, 2023 Subscriber² Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 23:46, Mockingbird said: You didn't make a meaningful sentence by randomly jumbling English words together. Expand Don't blame me if you struggle with reading. satukoro and snowy owl 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598861051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted October 30, 2023 Subscriber² Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 02:15, Mockingbird said: Where did I say that everyone would feel like I do? Expand When you told someone with a differing opinion that they could choose to not participate. That's what you were suggesting, and any denial will only be nonsense. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598861052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 14:02, Nick H. said: I think you misunderstood why I brought up Clippy and Cortana. I know that they might not be the same as Copilot. But Clippy and Cortana have been useless tools for me that Microsoft have bundled into their software because they think they know better. I don't use Copilot, I have no intention of using Copilot. So why should I have to have it on my system? As I said before, if they made it an optional installation then fine. But Microsoft wouldn't do that, so I disagree with the idea that it should be added to Windows 10. Expand You can uninstall Cortana and many other built-in apps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598861084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 19:04, Mockingbird said: You can uninstall Cortana and many other built-in apps. Expand Where is the uninstall option for Copilot? Before you answer, using winget or PowerShell, or disabling via policy is not a reasonable answer for the average user. +Dick Montage and snowy owl 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598861094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted October 30, 2023 Supervisor Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 19:04, Mockingbird said: You can uninstall Cortana and many other built-in apps. Expand Could you please supply the easy "uninstall" directions for doing that? Because an individual cannot do it so easily: That's to disable it, and it still takes up my system's resources. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598861107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondockSaint Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Copilot should be a standalone application, that hooks into the OS, browsers, Office etc when installed. But it should definitely not be part of the base operating system. Sadly that will not play into the data mining aspect of Windows. If Microsoft offered a base Windows product that provides the core functionality without the telemetry and "online services", I would pay a premium for it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598861116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) On 30/10/2023 at 22:03, Nick H. said: Could you please supply the easy "uninstall" directions for doing that? Because an individual cannot do it so easily: That's to disable it, and it still takes up my system's resources. Expand Go to Settings --> Apps --> Installed Apps Select Cortana and choose Uninstall. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1435046-microsoft-should-add-copilot-to-windows-10/page/2/#findComment-598861141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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