Mockingbird Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) I grabbed Windows 11 24H2 RTM ISO from Microsoft's server and tried using a modified appraiserres.dll to install Windows 11 24H2 on an unsupported PC, but found out that MSFT has blocked that method. Microsoft has also blocked the '/product server' command line method. Does anyone knows a method that still works? jsgdtewhfdd 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted September 30 Supervisor Share Posted September 30 On the one hand, I wouldn't bother. You're going to find yourself with more headaches than it is worth. Go for Windows 10 or Linux instead. But if you insist, I think Rufus circumvents the Windows 11 "requirements." Have you tried that? Dick Montage and goretsky 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598934914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedycars Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Rufus is a no go for non-TPM2.0 PCs this time (you may still want to use the other bypass options provided by it). Instead the HW check can be skipped with the "Setup.exe /product server" command. Tested it and it does work on a 10 years old PC. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkol Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 I wouldn't bother with Windows 11 on these types of hardware. There are quite a few problems with it. I am running windows 10 on my old pc. goretsky 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 1 MVC Share Posted October 1 Instead of just blanketly saying, "It will run like crap," ... what are you running it on? On 30/09/2024 at 16:54, Mockingbird said: I grabbed Windows 11 24H2 RTM ISO from Microsoft's server and tried using a modified appraiserres.dll to install Windows 11 24H2 on an unsupported PC, but found out that MSFT has blocked that method. Microsoft has also blocked the '/product server' command line method. Does anyone knows a method that still works? I have windows 11 running on practically everything. Here is the specs of 1 unsupported pc I have it running on. It's a prodesk I also have it running on an i3-7100U, i7-8550U, i7-6500U, i7-4700R, and i5-7600. They all work great. GeXeH, Xenon and Dick Montage 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 On 01/10/2024 at 11:17, mkol said: I wouldn't bother with Windows 11 on these types of hardware. There are quite a few problems with it. ...such as? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 On 01/10/2024 at 11:08, speedycars said: Rufus is a no go for non-TPM2.0 PCs this time (you may still want to use the other bypass options provided by it).Instead the HW check can be skipped with the "Setup.exe /product server" command. Tested it and it does work on a 10 years old PC. Have you tried it with Windows 11 24H2? MSFT blocked that method a while back Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 1 MVC Share Posted October 1 On 01/10/2024 at 13:46, Mockingbird said: Have you tried it with Windows 11 24H2? MSFT blocked that method a while back Trying it now, in fact. You are correct. It's blocked. But Setup.exe /product server is working. jsgdtewhfdd 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 (edited) Surprising enough, "setup.exe /product server" still works on at least the one unsupported PC that I have tested so far. It has an unsupported processor, but meets all the other system requirements (TPM, Secure Boot). I don't have a PC older than that one, so I am going to have to borrow one when I get back later today. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 1 MVC Share Posted October 1 On 01/10/2024 at 15:03, Mockingbird said: Surprising enough, "setup.exe /product server" still works on at least the one unsupported PC that I have tested so far. It has an unsupported processor, but meets all the other system requirements (TPM, Secure Boot). I don't have a PC older than that one, so I am going to have to borrow one when I get back later today. I can confirm that setup.exe /product sever also works on ones missing TPM 2.0 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 (edited) Confirmed! No TPM, no Secure Boot (no UEFI/legacy BIOS), and an unsupported processor No problem. "setup.exe /product server" still works. Edited October 1 by Mockingbird Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted October 1 Supervisor Share Posted October 1 I'm still curious. Why are you trying to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware? jsgdtewhfdd and Yonah 1 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 On 01/10/2024 at 16:29, Nick H. said: I'm still curious. Why are you trying to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware? Why not? Yonah 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 1 MVC Share Posted October 1 On 01/10/2024 at 18:29, Nick H. said: I'm still curious. Why are you trying to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware? Because Windows 10 will be out of support in 1 year and the hardware I have is still perfectly fine. I would actually give linux a go, if only the screenconnect client for linux wasn't garbage. Dick Montage and Xenon 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted October 1 Supervisor Share Posted October 1 On 02/10/2024 at 00:35, Mockingbird said: Why not? Because as mentioned before, it's going to cause headaches down the line. If the headaches are only yours and you're doing it as a hobby/experiment then go nuts. I wouldn't suggest doing it for other people though... On 02/10/2024 at 00:38, Warwagon said: Because Windows 10 will be out of support in 1 year and the hardware I have is still perfectly fine. I would actually give linux a go, if only the screenconnect client for linux wasn't garbage. Yep, Windows 10 goes out of support October 2025. That's a year away. And I agree that Linux's RDC software has issues, but at the same time I'm working on finding a solution myself - not AnyDesk or TeamViewer, but a decent LAN-based RDC solution. And I've got a year to find something to work. Like I said, I was just curious as to the need for Windows 11 compared to using something that is still officially supported. Yonah 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 (edited) On 01/10/2024 at 16:44, Nick H. said: Because as mentioned before, it's going to cause headaches down the line. If the headaches are only yours and you're doing it as a hobby/experiment then go nuts. I wouldn't suggest doing it for other people though... I have been running Windows 11 on unsupported PCs since Windows 11 came out 3 years ago. What are these "headaches" that you are talking about? Edited October 1 by Mockingbird Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 1 MVC Share Posted October 1 On 01/10/2024 at 18:44, Nick H. said: Because as mentioned before, it's going to cause headaches down the line. If the headaches are only yours and you're doing it as a hobby/experiment then go nuts. I wouldn't suggest doing it for other people though... Yep, Windows 10 goes out of support October 2025. That's a year away. And I agree that Linux's RDC software has issues, but at the same time I'm working on finding a solution myself - not AnyDesk or TeamViewer, but a decent LAN-based RDC solution. And I've got a year to find something to work. Like I said, I was just curious as to the need for Windows 11 compared to using something that is still officially supported. ya, I do remote assistance with people. Other wise I would probably give linux a go. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted October 2 Supervisor Share Posted October 2 On 02/10/2024 at 00:48, Mockingbird said: I have been running Windows 11 on unsupported PCs since Windows 11 came out 3 years ago. I don't know what "headaches" that you are talking about. It's a fair cop. I can't say that I've seen many issues with people circumventing the "requirements" so far. What I do know is that if someone comes to me with an issue and I notice their machine doesn't meet whatever requirements - an outdated phone, for example - that's where I stop my troubleshooting. Unsupported is unsupported. For my own hardware I would understand that it is me on my own to fix the issue I've potentially created. On 02/10/2024 at 00:53, Warwagon said: ya, I do remote assistance with people. Other wise I would probably give linux a go. Funny. I need something better for LAN connectivity, but I'm able to use TeamViewer or AnyDesk for any client I need to remotely help and they are both compatible with all operating systems. But perhaps your remote assistance requires less latency than me. Maybe I'll drop you a PM sometime to talk about it further. Yonah 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 (edited) On 01/10/2024 at 17:05, Nick H. said: It's a fair cop. I can't say that I've seen many issues with people circumventing the "requirements" so far. What I do know is that if someone comes to me with an issue and I notice their machine doesn't meet whatever requirements - an outdated phone, for example - that's where I stop my troubleshooting. Unsupported is unsupported. For my own hardware I would understand that it is me on my own to fix the issue I've potentially created. Microsoft said that the heightened system requirements in Windows 11 is the result of having visualization-based security (VBS) turned on by default in Windows 11. Windows 10 also has visualization-based security (VBS), but it's turned off by default. I simply turned off VBS in Windows 11 and now I have resolved the compatibility "issue". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted October 2 Supervisor Share Posted October 2 (edited) Hello, As previously noted on Neowin, Windows 10 will have paid support available after EOL. That is an option if you have hardware that is not supported by Windows 11. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Xenon and Yonah 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598935644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 On 02/10/2024 at 11:27, goretsky said: Hello, As previously noted on Neowin, Windows 10 will have paid support available after EOL. That is an option if you have hardware that is not supported by Windows 11. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky $61 per PC per year no thanks Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598936389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayZJay Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 On 01/10/2024 at 19:23, Mockingbird said: There are many workarounds, which is nice once Windows 10 stops getting (free) security updates and fixes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598936420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 On 05/10/2024 at 17:04, JayZJay said: There are many workarounds, which is nice once Windows 10 stops getting (free) security updates and fixes. I am aware that there are unscrupulous ways to obtain Extended Security Updates (ESU) without paying, but I am not going there. Yonah 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598936436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudassir931 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 On 02/10/2024 at 02:23, Mockingbird said: Confirmed! No TPM, no Secure Boot (no UEFI/legacy BIOS), and an unsupported processor No problem. "setup.exe /product server" still works. Can you share the method how you did it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598936453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted October 6 Supervisor Share Posted October 6 On 05/10/2024 at 23:08, Mockingbird said: $61 per PC per year no thanks Hello, Oh, that's just for the first year. It doubles every year after that, and you must purchase them cumulatively/retroactively, i.e., if you want to purchase aftermarket support for a second year (~$120) and did not purchase for the first year (~$60), then you must purchase both years for ~$180. It is really meant as a stopgap solution for organizations whose migration away from Windows 10 to Windows 11 won't be finished before the latter goes end of life. Microsoft did something similar for Windows 7 but it wasn't really offered to consumers like it is this time around. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Barney T. and Mockingbird 1 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1446908-how-to-install-windows-11-24h2-rtm-on-unsupported-pc/#findComment-598936500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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