hapibeli Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just want to know how to rid myself of MS bloatware, things I don't need constantly coming from MS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted January 16 Subscriber² Share Posted January 16 What do you define as bloatware? One man's annoyance is another man's necessary tool... Just uninstall what you don't want. margrave 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598958891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Uzondu Reporter Posted January 16 Reporter Share Posted January 16 Look up ChrisTitusTech's debloat tool Som, xrobwx71, kopsarchidis and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598958903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrobwx71 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat There are many of these across the interwebs, check Google for more. Research a bit and be careful, make sure the script or app is reputable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598958904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haxzion Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) The best and safest way to debloat a windows iso is with NTLite....either the free version or the paid one. There are many other guides and tools but i consider this one the safest And don't try to debload an already installed OS it's just a waste of time. Edited January 16 by Haxzion Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598958972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted January 16 MVC Share Posted January 16 Look at O&O Shutup10++ & O&O App Buster https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 - Trigger Privacy Settings in mass / granularhttps://www.oo-software.com/en/ooappbuster - Safely Uninstalling App Store Apps (it had guard rails) Also, using powershell commands to remove app store apps work too. https://www.wisecleaner.com/how-to/174-how-to-uninstall-windows-apps-with-powershell-on-windows-10-and-11.html Just be careful what you remove. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Elі Subscriber² Posted January 17 Subscriber² Share Posted January 17 IMHO most of the tweaking tools for Windows have the potential to break your OS and the sad part is that you wouldn't even know it's broken and blame it on MS when things don't work as they should. Just use the Add/Remove feature on Windows to remove any programs you do not want. Otherwise, the ONLY app I would recommend that removes programs/System Modules/Windows apps and ALL traces of them without breaking stuff is TOTAL UNINSTALL. Not free but worth the purchase. I also left Windows and stayed on Linux for over 7 years full-time, but VR brought me back around 4 years ago or so lol, and now I'm dual booting again. I have learned not to mess with Windows and just normally remove what I don't want. It's better this way. +Dick Montage and Nick H. 1 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Bot, Bad Bot Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I am confused on why had to totally leave Linux? You only own one machine? Use in a VM? Dualboot? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accuphase Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 16/01/2025 at 10:36, Dick Montage said: What do you define as bloatware? One man's annoyance is another man's necessary tool... Just uninstall what you don't want. Expand What’s your necessary tool? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted January 17 Supervisor Share Posted January 17 On 17/01/2025 at 07:09, Accuphase said: What’s your necessary tool? Expand Some people like and use Copilot. I don't, so I would consider it bloatware. On 17/01/2025 at 00:32, Elі said: IMHO most of the tweaking tools for Windows have the potential to break your OS and the sad part is that you wouldn't even know it's broken and blame it on MS when things don't work as they should. Just use the Add/Remove feature on Windows to remove any programs you do not want. Otherwise, the ONLY app I would recommend that removes programs/System Modules/Windows apps and ALL traces of them without breaking stuff is TOTAL UNINSTALL. Not free but worth the purchase. I also left Windows and stayed on Linux for over 7 years full-time, but VR brought me back around 4 years ago or so lol, and now I'm dual booting again. I have learned not to mess with Windows and just normally remove what I don't want. It's better this way. Expand Definitely this. I know plenty of people here that use these scripts and tools and that is fine. But if they ask for support and I learn that they used something to "de-bloat" the system I'm less inclined to offer suggestions past "reinstall the OS as it was meant to be." For @hapibeli: Why did you move away from Linux for music production? I can think of several people in that profession that are able to get their work done using Linux, so what is it that wasn't working for you? Was it just the case that the particular application that you use doesn't have native Linux support? +Dick Montage and +Elі 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted January 17 Subscriber² Share Posted January 17 On 17/01/2025 at 07:09, Accuphase said: What’s your necessary tool? Expand Not that it's overly relevant but I've seen scripts that remove: CoPilot Remote Desktop Power Automate Edge I use these things every single day. Others may or may not be in the same boat. So one persons "bloatware" is another's "necessary tool". A lot of people use these scripts and are ignorant as to what they do, and then blame MS when something doesn't work. Don't get me wrong, these scripts have a really valid place - and for me, that is an education piece so that I maintain my own script that I run upon spinning up a new instance. xrobwx71 and Phillip Hardy 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accuphase Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 17/01/2025 at 11:50, Nick H. said: Some people like and use Copilot. I don't, so I would consider it bloatware. Definitely this. I know plenty of people here that use these scripts and tools and that is fine. But if they ask for support and I learn that they used something to "de-bloat" the system I'm less inclined to offer suggestions past "reinstall the OS as it was meant to be." For @hapibeli: Why did you move away from Linux for music production? I can think of several people in that profession that are able to get their work done using Linux, so what is it that wasn't working for you? Was it just the case that the particular application that you use doesn't have native Linux support? Expand Linux doesn’t have the Steinberg suite of audio editing apps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Isn't almost everything easily uninstallable now? Right click, uninstall. Plus what is "bloat" really? With today's massive hard drive's the effect of having these apps installed is completely negligible. +Dick Montage 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Hardy Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 17/01/2025 at 12:16, Dick Montage said: Not that it's overly relevant but I've seen scripts that remove: CoPilot Remote Desktop Power Automate Edge I use these things every single day. Others may or may not be in the same boat. So one persons "bloatware" is another's "necessary tool". A lot of people use these scripts and are ignorant as to what they do, and then blame MS when something doesn't work. Don't get me wrong, these scripts have a really valid place - and for me, that is an education piece so that I maintain my own script that I run upon spinning up a new instance. Expand Me too I even run windows 2025 Server and have a ton of Linux/Freebsd and Windows VMs Hyperv is awesome for what I do and you can even play games via Remote Destop +Dick Montage 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) On 20/01/2025 at 13:48, Phillip Hardy said: Me too I even run windows 2025 Server and have a ton of Linux/Freebsd and Windows VMs Hyperv is awesome for what I do and you can even play games via Remote Destop Expand I wish Hyper-V was better for desktop Linux. It’s always been a pain for me to get a good user experience even with the enhanced session. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted January 20 Supervisor Share Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 05:10, Accuphase said: Linux doesn’t have the Steinberg suite of audio editing apps. Expand Are you referring to Cubase? I didn't see where the OP mentioned the application that they were using, hence asking the question. Otherwise you may as well point out that Adobe products and Safari don't work on Linux; while true it has no bearing on the OP's situation. If the OP has been a Linux user for 25+ years it seems odd that one specific application would pull them over to Windows. On 20/01/2025 at 08:55, Rigby said: Isn't almost everything easily uninstallable now? Right click, uninstall. Plus what is "bloat" really? With today's massive hard drive's the effect of having these apps installed is completely negligible. Expand Copilot, Recall...those two are the latest that I can think of that you cannot uninstall through add/remove programs. Also, bloat is anything that uses computer resources (CPU, HDD space, RAM) that you don't use. So in my case, Copilot, Recall...I can't easily remove them, and running a script to get rid of them could have unforseen consequences that affect the stability of Windows. Also, Microsoft would probably just reinstall it with the next update so it's not really worth the hassle. I guess that last bit is really your point, though. It's not worth the hassle of fighting against Microsoft's decisions. I just use Windows as little as possible instead. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598959835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WITHOUT-ME Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 install Enterprise edition, no any preinstalled here PS: welcome back home, its beautiful here Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598960037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 20/01/2025 at 15:47, Nick H. said: If the OP has been a Linux user for 25+ years it seems odd that one specific application would pull them over to Windows. Expand It's not odd, Applications determine which operating system is required... It's okay to use multiple operating systems depending on the applications you use. The whole switching OS and picking sides thing is lame af. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598960063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrosive23 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 For music production, you should have gone Apple. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598960069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 01:50, corrosive23 said: For music production, you should have gone Apple. Expand Why, because of the stereotype? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598960082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theefool Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) I don't use 3rd party tools to remove features in windows. I just use get-appxpackage -allusers *app* | remove-appxpackage -allusers (this to remove currently installed apps on all profiles) then get-appxProvisionedPackage -online | where-object {$_.Packagename -like "*app*"} | remove-appxprovisionedpackage -online (this to prevent those apps from installing for future users, or when you wipe your profile) Or something like that. I probably made some spelling errors there, but no real reason to use 3rd party tools. I use this on enterprise as well. With enterprise, it helps to use group policy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1450795-not-ms-fan-just-left-linux-after-26-years-for-music-production-only/#findComment-598960092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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