Blindlabel013 Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 there new album is pretty goodwith all the keyboard synth stuff most of the intros sounds a bit classical, my mum thought i was listen to classicaly music, then the main song kicked in and she changed her mind Burn In Hell is still my fav dimmu song You know Burn In Hell is a Twisted Sister cover right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1848484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted March 17, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 17, 2004 Ok, [saint dark], that is your opinion. Who is going to say someone is better than someone other than yourself? Noone. You are the only one that can decide who is better than who. sorry for touching your maggot heart, Im open to hear your opinion about why jordy is the best (btw: Im not saying he is bad because he is not, he is very talented, but not the best, of course, thats the opinion of the "ruler of the universe" :rolleyes: hint: sarcasm ) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1848608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptonik Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 ,Mar 17 2004, 04:50] sorry for touching your maggot heart, Im open to hear your opinion about why jordy is the best (btw: Im not saying he is bad because he is not, he is very talented, but not the best, of course, thats the opinion of the "ruler of the universe" :rolleyes: hint: sarcasm ) :rolleyes: I never said he was the best, but if someone thinks he is the best, then let him. Noone can really decide who is better than another. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1849592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted March 17, 2004 Author Share Posted March 17, 2004 ,Mar 17 2004, 03:50] sorry for touching your maggot heart, Im open to hear your opinion about why jordy is the best (btw: Im not saying he is bad because he is not, he is very talented, but not the best, of course, thats the opinion of the "ruler of the universe" :rolleyes: hint: sarcasm ) look, we all know, anytime slipknot is in the picture, comments are going to come up....either you hate them, or you love them.... They have even said that themselves before so lets just all shut up about whos the better drummer or guitarist or vocalist?.... Iowa= commercial hate music.... Self titles had some meaningful lyrics ...at least to me.... yes, corey says "****" a lot, but oh well....I say it too much as well, so lets just move on, as its just a word.... Its apparent that this new cd will have some sort of message, whether you like them or not. so how about turning this topic into something better? Anyone going to Ozzfest or Jager? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1850828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptonik Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Anyone going to Ozzfest or Jager? I'm going to be going to Jager on April 30th. :punk: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1850983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted March 17, 2004 Author Share Posted March 17, 2004 I'm going to be going to Jager on April 30th. :punk: u live in houston too? ill see u there Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1851300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0mbi Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 oh please, I dont start a musical debate because my music obsession but thast just utter BS, second best known? by whom? Jordison is nothing compared to Danny Carey, Mike Gaspar, Lars Ulrich, Jukka Nevalainen and a big ETC. sorry for touching your maggot heart, Im open to hear your opinion about why jordy is the best (btw: Im not saying he is bad because he is not, he is very talented, but not the best, of course, thats the opinion of the "ruler of the universe" hint: sarcasm ) ummmm just about every rock and metal magazine in the world and what Metallica's drummer doz for a solo, joey doz for intros and choruses....has enyone seen the joey drum solo in the disasterpieces DVD? thats talent (upside down, rotating at the same time) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1851333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 got mine in the mail the other day. clear channel. those fookers. they canned stern... but they gave me a good deal on tix. 5 tix, 102, center for nissan. cant wait to see SLAYER! :punk: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1851477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 ummmm just about every rock and metal magazine in the world and what Metallica's drummer doz for a solo, joey doz for intros and choruses....has enyone seen the joey drum solo in the disasterpieces DVD? thats talent (upside down, rotating at the same time) whatever, this is getting old and Im not here to change your mind nor you to change mine, but please, dont tell me that just because a couple of magazines said that (yes, a couple, because I doubt you have read every rock and metal magazine in the world :rolleyes:, now please, do me a favor, go a get the following albums: Tool - Aenima (Danny Carey) Moonspell - The antidote (Mike Gaspar) Type O Negative - Life is killing me (John Kelly) Nightwish - Wishmaster (Jukka Nevalainen) Enjoy them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1851540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0mbi Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 i gots the first 3 ..never heard of nightwish Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1851578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugg3t Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 off the record: i think ive heard one songs or two, didnt liked what i heard. i always thought they were over rated. never liked the group. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1851669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptonik Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 u live in houston too?ill see u there I guess so! :punk: :punk: :punk: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1851834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0mbi Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 have you heard any news bout slipknot tourning down here in australia yet? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1851865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindlabel013 Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 Nightwish is real nice. I like Wanderlust most. I've got all their albums Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1851969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptonik Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 have you heard any news bout slipknot tourning down here in australia yet? Maybe after September... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1852409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 nice sig kryp ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1853587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptonik Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 nice sig kryp ;) Same. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1854491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexor Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 in Toxikk's sig, 4'th mask from left (white with horizontal black stripes), who is that? that mask appears in Marlyn Manson's Tainted Love video, is that the same dude? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1856159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted March 19, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 19, 2004 in Toxikk's sig, 4'th mask from left (white with horizontal black stripes), who is that? that mask appears in Marlyn Manson's Tainted Love video, is that the same dude? yep, he is jordi, and indeed he appears in that video, his mask is awesome Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1857490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannes Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Slipknot is back?! How could I miss this thread? Awesome stuff!!! :D Couch Potato? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1857534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Statik Process Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Slipknot Rules! (sorry, yes it was pointless, but I had to say it!) :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1857549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 "but saying that a band is crap just because they are commercialised is very idiotic," Stop making your own story up... I never said they were crap because they were commercial!!! I don't like bands that are overly commercial (in pop that's ok but in rock,etc, they pretend they are not commerical when they are [hypocritcal]), but the main reason I don't like them is just I don't like their music much (my opinion, obviously other people like them)... that's not to say I hate every song they have ever done, but I don't like their attitude of thinking they're one of the only innovating artists out there, nor do I like their angsty annoying screaming and constant swearing. "mmmmmmmmm did you know Joey Jordison(the drummer) is second best known drummer alive(next to the Bezerkers)" Rated by who? How can you compare the work of an artist against another? Was Picasso better than Monet? Nice try. I am *not* doubting he is a very skilled technical drummer, but I just find it just all over-the-top and he overplays, which means I think that artistically he is a very bad drummer. For skilled drummers look at Tool's Danney Carey - he has amazing understanding of time-signatures and knows not to OVERPLAY; he is also rated as one of the best drummers is the world. One point to note though is that just there are many better drummers out there who are session drummers, etc, who are a lot more talented but no-one hears of them. :rolleyes: "and slipknot arnt commercial..when is the last time you seen them on a tv show(cept of a live performance of conan o'brian), do you see big stands at music shops dedicated to slipknot.....no." LMAO!!! Not commercial. HA!!! Wow, they don't appear on many TV shows... Wow, they don't have big stands in stores. YADA YADA. I call a band slightly commercial when I walk around town and see about 50-100 people wearing Slipknot hoodies! And they are commerical in many other ways too. Disagree all you want, live in your own dellusional world if you must, but Slipknot are a commerical band - just because they wear masks and call the public maggots doesn't mean they are not commerical. "but the deal with COF is that they have embraced the cliche too much, now is not the great show they used to be as a novelty, now they are just a comical show" I don't know what they used to be, I just know they're a joke now. They are playing off the cliche as you say. They might have been a good band, I don't know, but I just know that now they are comical and unoriginal with their bad covers (the maiden cover they did was so similar to the original apart from his crap vocals over the top and not a good solos). "And how exactly are they commercialized? If that was so, wouldn't they actually show there faces instead of wearing maks?" No, because it is a gimmick to get sales - therefore the masks make them more money. Duh. I am not trying to totally slate Slipknot... but people are in denial if they think they are not a very commercial band and also the number of times I hear that Joey is the best drummer in the world, etc, it gets boring. I am just very tired of the genre as a whole - screaming lyrics, swearing, heavy distorted guitars, overplaying drums (particularly all this obsession with double-bass drum... little kids think it is kewl but few drummers know how to use it well - Danney Carey being one of them). I am not being closed minded. I listen to Pop, Rock, Dance, Ambient, Techno, Alt Rock, Heavy Metal, Synth Pop, to name but a few. I will give music a chance (some genres I tend to like more than others)... but too many bands are just coming in and playing the stereotype and not actually innovating. Slipknot innovated to starts with, but just went more produced and [more] commerical from album 2 onwards (most people I speak to seem to agree with this point). Marilyn Manson has headed that way too and now just produces music for the sake of it, it also being too produced. It takes a truly good band to keep innovating and to not sell out, etc - Radiohead are an example (minus their first album) of a band that produces original music and change styles, while being anti-commerical such that for a couple of albums they wouldn't even tour, do interviews or release singles. That is not to say Radiohead are a truly brilliant band, just an example of a band that continues to innovate and change, rather than commericalise. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1858908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted March 19, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 19, 2004 if you dont know the band, dont criticize them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1859113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 if you dont know the band, dont criticize them. I know that I don't like the music... therefore I can criticize... I've listened to two of their [slipknot's] albums, not thoroughly but I have, so I can critize them. I have also listened to some Cradle Of Filth and found it patheticially bad, so I can criticize them. I don't see what your arguement is? Or is your arguement that unless you know all a bands stuff that you can't criticize them? I don't know much about George Bush but I know that he's awful for the world! I don't know the inner financial/social workings of Slipknot but I know they're commerical from what I see. Please explain what you're trying to say...! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1859505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilmunky Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 yep, he is jordi, and indeed he appears in that video, his mask is awesome that would be joey lol Doh! hes a nice guy i've meet him corey and jim a couple of times. the new masks do look Fooking good! apart from clown he looks like melted ice-cream to me Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/6/#findComment-1859542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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