Kriz Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 New album absolutely rocks, its cool Corey brought a bit of Stone Sour into it, like in Circles. If you havnt heard it, go buy it now. Dont download, BUY! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted May 27, 2004 Author Share Posted May 27, 2004 New album absolutely rocks, its cool Corey brought a bit of Stone Sour into it, like in Circles.If you havnt heard it, go buy it now. Dont download, BUY! :D get my PM? :o Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumdogmillionaire Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 (edited) i bought it tuesday and so far i'm not liking it. first, i've been sick the last week and have an ear infection so i have difficulty hearing, so i will give it the benefit of the doubt until i can properly evaluate it, BUT the production sounds horrible. the guitars sound very weak and "twangy" and the bass levels are very strange. joeys kick drum is almost un-hearable, and when you do hear it it just sounds like a little pitter patter. so far, self titled is still my favorite. as far as this goes Mick and Jim are terrible guitarists and couldn't play nearly a quater the stuff Metallica's Kirk Hammett ( 11th best guitarist of all time) plays (i think it would be halarious to see mick try and play 'master of puppets'), seriously if they are good guitarists, then why dont they bloody well put some solos in a few songs as a display of talent. If you want to see real guitar talent, check out Thin Lizzy, Metallica or Hendrix. mick would rip up master of puppets. almost any guitarist can play that. i have been playing guitar for 12 years now, have been in coutless bands and played with some of the top bands in this country. (read type o negative, mudvayne, etc..) the style of music i play and write is very slipknot-ish, and i choose NOT to play lead though i am very capable of it. i was taught listening to lindsey buckingham yngwie and others. i am very capable of playing that stuff, but solos and such in the music i write are not needed. you can't judge the value of a guitarist by how many solo's they do or what they write. slipknot writes what is appropriate for their style. and odds are they could beat the hell out of hammett as most any guitarist can. he's not that great and relies WAY too much on his wah. p.s. dave mustaine runs circles around hammett. just so you know. p.p.s jack white of the "white stripes" was also on one of those "best guitarists of all time" lists... you can take all of those with a grain of salt... actually, take it with a brick of salt. Edited May 27, 2004 by GwaRGuITaR Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted May 27, 2004 Author Share Posted May 27, 2004 i bought it tuesday and so far i'm not liking it.first, i've been sick the last week and have an ear infection so i have difficulty hearing, so i will give it the benefit of the doubt until i can properly evaluate it, BUT the production sounds horrible. the guitars sound very weak and "twangy" and the bass levels are very strange. joeys kick drum is almost un-hearable, and when you do hear it it just sounds like a little pitter patter. so far, self titled is still my favorite. 1. listen to the cd with some GOOD headphones 2. listen to the cd with a GOOD 5.1 system 3. listen to the cd in a GOOD car stereo system you will hear completely different things in each place...i know i have i can hear everything perfectly..i dont mean to be rude, but i played this in a ****ty speaker system (my dads) and it sounded like ass...then i stuck it in his xterra...sounds like ass Rick Rubin said he had this cd mixed that way so you could hear all nine of them...instead of hearing a 5 piece with a few odds and ends there just listen to it on a good speaker system and it will be fine :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumdogmillionaire Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 1. listen to the cd with some GOOD headphones2. listen to the cd with a GOOD 5.1 system 3. listen to the cd in a GOOD car stereo system you will hear completely different things in each place...i know i have i can everything perfectly..i dont mean to be rude, but i played this in a ****ty speaker system (my dads) and it sounded like ass...then i stuck it in his xterra...sounds like ass Rick Rubin said he had this cd mixed that way so you could hear all nine of them...instead of hearing a 5 piece with a few odds and ends there just listen to it on a good speaker system and it will be fine :) i do have a killer system in my car, pc and home entertainment. currently i'm blaming the ear infection... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted May 27, 2004 Author Share Posted May 27, 2004 ahhh ok, well, cant wait for your opinion when its not there...also....just imagine this as a regular band playing this music..and nto slipknot...just incase you dont like it...a lot of people have to do that to understand how good this cd really is Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumdogmillionaire Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 i'm very open minded. slipknot is not my favorite band, i'm just a casual fan. (i will say i do like murderdolls better than slipknot, and wish joey would just do that full time :p) so them not "sticking to their roots" will not offend me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted May 27, 2004 Author Share Posted May 27, 2004 mick would rip up master of puppets. almost any guitarist can play that.i have been playing guitar for 12 years now, have been in coutless bands and played with some of the top bands in this country. (read type o negative, mudvayne, etc..) the style of music i play and write is very slipknot-ish, and i choose NOT to play lead though i am very capable of it. i was taught listening to lindsey buckingham yngwie and others. i am very capable of playing that stuff, but solos and such in the music i write are not needed. you can't judge the value of a guitarist by how many solo's they do or what they write. slipknot writes what is appropriate for their style. and odds are they could beat the hell out of hammett as most any guitarist can. he's not that great and relies WAY too much on his wah. p.s. dave mustaine runs circles around hammett. just so you know. p.p.s jack white of the "white stripes" was also on one of those "best guitarists of all time" lists... you can take all of those with a grain of salt... actually, take it with a brick of salt. thank you...and just for example...look at Load, Reload, and especially St. Anger--- just listen to those solos!!!! lol Edit: just saw ur edits, i agree if jack white is on there.......that list is like SD said, from rolling stones...who the **** listens to what they have to say anymore? its all about popularity with them anyway Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmeany Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Just thought I would post my useless opinions and say that I've had this album since Tuesday and it rocks. It as good as the 2 last albums I think some fans don't like it because it sounds different. Which honestly annoys me because these people say that all pop music is all the same and they never change their styles. Yet when their favourite bands have a go at doing things differently they are shunned. And I can't wait to see them play at download. (only 8 days b4 I leave for Donnington) 2 days of beer fueled metal madness :devil: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 i just bought new Slipknot cd 2 days ago and ITS FREAKIN AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted May 27, 2004 Author Share Posted May 27, 2004 too bad avril lavigne made it number 1!!!!!!!! i was hoping slipknot would finally make a number one debut Iowa opened at #2 in 2001 as well...aliyah made number one because that week she died and people rushed out and bought her cds while i have sympathy for her death...its still bull****...SK WERE ROBBED 2 CD's IN A ROW NOW this time to a really untalented individual Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2171963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumTrickery Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 So far I'm enjoying the new cd. Best listened to in a quiet room on good speakers, or better yet on a nice set of headphones. They've really done a turnaround on this album, especially after that worthless lump called Iowa. A few of the tracks are downright awesome, while others are friggin horrible. All in all i'll give the cd a B+. Definitely worth listening to some more, but nothing I won't mostly forget about in a few months. If this is any sign of them growing more as a band, I can't wait to see what they have in store in the future. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2172005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted May 28, 2004 Veteran Share Posted May 28, 2004 i think the quality is money. make sure you got the cd and not some dumb p2p rip Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2173089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumdogmillionaire Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 i think the quality is money.make sure you got the cd and not some dumb p2p rip oh i have the cd. along with a collection of 400 others. i support music. i don't think the quality is poor, but the production, but again... sick... not the best judge at the moment :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2173846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
one321 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 (edited) I have a question about a song title. Tracks 8 & 11 "Vermillion" and "Vermillion, Pt. 2" caught my eye. I am from South Dakota which shares a border with Slipknot's home state of Iowa. Vermillion is a town very near the Iowa border. I was curious if there were any Slipknot fansites that have meanings of songs or track names. I know it's a stretch but sometimes you can find that kind of stuff. Thanks! Edited June 9, 2004 by one321 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2247947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337.g4M3R Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Mick and Jim are terrible guitarists and couldn't play nearly a quater the stuff Metallica's Kirk Hammett ( 11th best guitarist of all time) plays (i think it would be halarious to see mick try and play 'master of puppets'), seriously if they are good guitarists, then why dont they bloody well put some solos in a few songs as a display of talent. If you want to see real guitar talent, check out Thin Lizzy, Metallica or Hendrix. I've played guitar for years now and can p1$$ the master of puppets solo. Mick used to be a guitar teacher before he hit the big time, i have read an article he did for Total Guitar (UK mag) and he is well into the neo-classical stuff (yngwie, di meola etc) he did like 5 tracks on the cd which came with the mag and his arpeggio sweeps are proper sexy. He is a shredder through and through. :punk: just because he doesn't let rip on the record doesn't mean he can't do it, he is quoted as saying that ross robinson (slipknot producer) wont allow him to do it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2248762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkit Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 I'm not a huge Slipknot fan, but to me, it seems alittle for watered down comparded to the first CD. Now maybe its just me, but I am alittle disappointed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2252936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Mick and Jim are terrible guitarists and couldn't play nearly a quater the stuff Metallica's Kirk Hammett ( 11th best guitarist of all time) plays (i think it would be halarious to see mick try and play 'master of puppets'), seriously if they are good guitarists, then why dont they bloody well put some solos in a few songs as a display of talent. If you want to see real guitar talent, check out Thin Lizzy, Metallica or Hendrix The guy who said that really has no clue what he's talking about. Idiot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2254519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGVL Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Bought it off the iTunes Music Store and the only song I liked is "Vermillion". I didn't like this album as much as Iowa. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2254581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
one321 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 I'd say that my favorite album is Slipknot, then Subliminal Verses, and finally Iowa. I love them all though. Subliminal is a little more watered down. It doesn't seem as intense or as crazy. I realize that is "the band growing" and all....but sometimes I just want to rock out! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2255240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominican0 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 i agree with one321...i love their original craziness Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-2255272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEATHERFACE559 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) First of all SLIPKNOT RULRES. VOL 3 THE SUBLIMINAL VERSES ROCKS. Is it there best album NO. There last albums were crazier in my opinion. Crazy=AWESOME. I saw them live a couple of months ago it was one of the most amazing crazy and awesomest things Ive ever seen. SLIPKNOT ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited June 21, 2005 by markjensen Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145723-slipknot-vol-3-the-subliminal-verses/page/13/#findComment-586096457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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