kennyout Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 (edited) So anyone watch it last night? and how the White house did a "1984" on us? the fake reporters( something Ryan)...and how they sent tapes to newstations to play on air about Medicare?. Am I the only one who is worried bout our rights? First...slam RFID tags on everything out there, then create fake reports, force them on public....keep constant state of war to keep people in line(Terrorism...wow it never ends in any form....lets fight it...wow its going nowhere, like the drug wars), and finally when will we get our mark?(ummm kind of Biblical thought here...from someone who don't like christan vissions too much) so....bout it anyway okay i messed up...forgot to make it coherient...: Last night on the daily show....they covered a story about the Medicare thing being 400 Billion US dollars to rake....but the White House knew it was suppose to be 551 Billion dollars more....which is 151 Billion more than they told congress...and the public...(notice the trend of White House lieing about cost of things , war on Iraq, Rebuild Iraq), anyway the White house Hired Actors to play fake people/reporters...made fake news tapes...sent them to News stations, and told them they could run it, and it was from some town/whatnot....anyway they were fake, and something that from Gorge Orwell's 1984 would do(fake news to make people think stronglly about the government--and be good lambs) anyway it was on the Daily Show....and the Crowd's reaction was the most amazing thing i have heard....everyone was kind of ****ed...sounding....when Jon Stwert said that...and it made me kind of ****ed....(at the White House/GWB JR.) Edited March 18, 2004 by kennyout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em123 Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 interesting still lost..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 Still not sure what you are talking about. I didn't watch the Daily Show last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 Can you show me a link to a real news itme talking abou this? I can't imagine the Daily Show would be the only one carrying it if it were true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyout Posted March 18, 2004 Author Share Posted March 18, 2004 well you can catch the episode today after Late Night with Connan at 6pm(here its at six...)......the Daily show from last night is on at 7pm on Comedy Central.... here: quick exp: 400billion for medicare told to congress white house knew it was 551 billion difference of 151 billion white house made fake news tapes sent fake news tapes to stations under the thing that it was real broadcast to be shown for newstations someone thought something was funny about the tapes/news reporter news reporters usually have weird ass names that you can't pronounce right(from the daily show...hehe) Daily Show found out....and told.....crowd made some noise i can't describe... GWB/White House made fake news/lied to congress about cost, and which is like a 1984/big brother thing when doing that... GWB/White House is taking our rights away...and ****ing me off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 Here you go. SOURCE Federal investigators are examining pre-produced television news stories, written and paid for by the government, which have the appearance of legitimate news segments delivered by independent reporters. Recorded in both English and Spanish, they were sent to local television stations across the country to publicize the new law.The tape even includes a suggested lead-in for anchors to read. But it's up to local news stations to decide whether to air the stories, voiced by those posing as reporters, in their news programs. The General Accounting Office said it will examine the video releases and the "propriety of using appropriated funds to support these activities." Last week, the GAO determined that the Bush administration's Medicare television commercials, also paid for by tax dollars, were legal. Some Democrats had argued they were blatantly political. Those same Democrats have called the video news stories nothing more than commercials. "This is political advertising that is masquerading as public information," said Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. Video News Releases Are Not New Video news releases, as they are called, are not new. Private companies use them, and government agencies have previously relied on them for subjects ranging from the flu to drunk driving to Head Start. The Clinton administration sent out news stories on its Medicare proposal in the 1990s. The segments released during President Clinton's administration, however, clearly stated at the beginning that they were produced by the government ? something the Bush video news releases do not. But the Bush administration insists it has a legal obligation to educate seniors about the new Medicare law, and it claims the staged news segments help in achieving that goal. "It provides factual information. I mean, that's what can't be lost here. The information in the video news release is factual," said Kevin Keane, assistant secretary for public affairs at the Department of Health and Human Services. But some news ethicists disagree. "If the viewer thinks that the person is a news person, they are being deceived. So on a simple ethical basis, the government is deceiving people if these things air," said Tom Rosenstiel with the Project for Excellence in Journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 Somebody start a thread on this new medicare system, I want to learn more about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 Somebody start a thread on this new medicare system, I want to learn more about it. Waht do you want to know? Bush pimped himself out to the Dems hoping they would respond by supporting some of his initiatives. As typical they would not and even slammed him for "not doing enough" and of course the conservatives are ****ed because they generally oppose this type of entitlement. He basically ****** himself on this one. Oh, and it is going to cost roughly triple what was presented. What relly irks me about this is that Bush has passed several key Dem initiatives thinking that htey would see it as a crossing the line type gesture. Have tehy crossed over to suppor this initiatives, hell no. Tell me again who is being partisan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 well you can catch the episode today after Late Night with Connan at 6pm(here its at six...)......the Daily show from last night is on at 7pm on Comedy Central....here: quick exp: 400billion for medicare told to congress white house knew it was 551 billion difference of 151 billion white house made fake news tapes sent fake news tapes to stations under the thing that it was real broadcast to be shown for newstations someone thought something was funny about the tapes/news reporter news reporters usually have weird ass names that you can't pronounce right(from the daily show...hehe) Daily Show found out....and told.....crowd made some noise i can't describe... GWB/White House made fake news/lied to congress about cost, and which is like a 1984/big brother thing when doing that... GWB/White House is taking our rights away...and ****ing me off... Well I don't know about taking away my rights (in this case), but you are right that is some sick Big Brother stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyout Posted March 18, 2004 Author Share Posted March 18, 2004 http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4555124/ for some fun...and qoute from daily show.... anyway about your rights being taken away....your right to privacy is dissapearing....what you own in your closet....RFID tags.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isomer Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 any intelligent person can tell those are not real reporters etc...etc.... next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 any intelligent person can tell those are not real reporters etc...etc....next That being the case, why would the Bush administration even attempt the falsehood at all then? Just because the do something poorly makes it any less wrong? I'll remember that when I get arrested for assault, I'll tell the cop that I didn't even really hurt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isomer Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 That being the case, why would the Bush administration even attempt the falsehood at all then?Just because the do something poorly makes it any less wrong? I'll remember that when I get arrested for assault, I'll tell the cop that I didn't even really hurt him. "That being the case, why would the Bush administration even attempt the falsehood at all then?" its an Ad... get over it... I see many other ads (infomercials) with fake talk shows and reporters or whatever... Just bc Bush makes one.. OMG its "1984" run for the hills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyout Posted March 18, 2004 Author Share Posted March 18, 2004 the big problem is the ads don't say paid for by US government...and they were aired during news shows...not commericals....or where they?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Veteran Posted March 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2004 "That being the case, why would the Bush administration even attempt the falsehood at all then?"its an Ad... get over it... I see many other ads (infomercials) with fake talk shows and reporters or whatever... Just bc Bush makes one.. OMG its "1984" run for the hills Selling a food processer and running for the President of the USA are not the same thing, for starters. The consquences of an infomercial can't possibly be compared to that of an election. Not to mention that lots of infomercial sponsers get sued, when they misrepresent themselves and/or their product. Bush's "ad" seems to do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destian Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 "That being the case, why would the Bush administration even attempt the falsehood at all then?"its an Ad... get over it... I see many other ads (infomercials) with fake talk shows and reporters or whatever... Just bc Bush makes one.. OMG its "1984" run for the hills You seriously have some problems, man. I'd really like to know how you turned out the way you are. I've heard of people being narrow-minded and one-sided, but my god, you're so far gone it's scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 It's very sick how Bush needs to make up fake news to win an election. Although the segment the Daily Show did was funny First...slam RFID tags on everything out there,.... What's wrong with RFID tags? Arn't they just so stores can track their merchandize? What do they have to do with the government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isomer Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 It's very sick how Bush needs to make up fake news to win an election. Although the segment the Daily Show did was funnyWhat's wrong with RFID tags? Arn't they just so stores can track their merchandize? What do they have to do with the government? also there is no evidence to support this RFID crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Crosby Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 also there is no evidence to support this RFID crap Walmart using RFID tags I'm sorry, what were you saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Walmart using RFID tagsI'm sorry, what were you saying? OK, so what exactly was that article supposed to prove? The existence of RFID tags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isomer Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Walmart using RFID tagsI'm sorry, what were you saying? we were talking about RFIDs in 20 dollar US bills :whistle:... as far as them being in products in Wall Mart i could not care less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyout Posted March 19, 2004 Author Share Posted March 19, 2004 we were talking about RFIDs in 20 dollar US bills :whistle:...as far as them being in products in Wall Mart i could not care less you should care... say you buy a special cleaner.....and some other products... then suddenlly when at home, you get the cops smashing your door down, and then arested for buying things that can be used to make drugs....or explosives....yet you don't know that about them, and you just happened to buy those products at the same time this time....but you fit the type of person they think about, a loner, dork, someone teased in school/can't hold a job(ignoring economy of area though...cause they don't care)....suddenlly there is a camera crew outside, they are airing a story on you, and people at their homes that know/knew you are saying "I knew something was wrong with him"....your arrested, put in a state prison, druged, but not fully charged, because they can't legally hold you under the consititution without proof your going to do something, they claim you are a hostial thing, but not a POW/nor anything else, but they hold you anyway....and so begins the joy of more and more people being put in line, for not being "american" all because you shopped at Walmart ---RFID tag central... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Sorry to stay of topic but, what is the effective range of on RFID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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