#2 Man in Al-Queda is surrounded


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It has been confirmed on CNN that the #2 man in AL-Quede, Dr. Aiman Al-Zawahiri is surrounded and Pakistani troops are in a fire-fight with Al-Queda troops Protecting the #2 man

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Breaking news:

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistani forces have surrounded what may be a "high-value" al Qaeda target in Pakistan near the border with Afghanistan, President Pervez Musharraf told CNN.
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Wow good stuff. Lets see how it ends.

Imagine if it was Osama... headline might read... "Osama captured: Democrats drop a load"

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With a network like Al Qaeda, capturing someone like that or even Osama doesn't make the slightest bit of difference because of the way it's set up. It's so splintered with cells all over the place that can operate independantly that capturing a headman like that is nothing but PR.

...and merged...

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With a network like Al Qaeda, capturing someone like that or even Osama doesn't make the slightest bit of difference because of the way it's set up. It's so splintered with cells all over the place that can operate independantly that capturing a headman like that is nothing but PR.

...and merged...

Agreed.

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With a network like Al Qaeda, capturing someone like that or even Osama doesn't make the slightest bit of difference because of the way it's set up. It's so splintered with cells all over the place that can operate independantly that capturing a headman like that is nothing but PR.

...and merged...

"...and merged..."

thanks :yes:

and yes its going to be played down... but if no one is captured... "Bush failed to capture So ans So, boo Bush". And you cant tell me that getting imp people does not hurt the morale of alQaueda.

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With a network like Al Qaeda, capturing someone like that or even Osama doesn't make the slightest bit of difference because of the way it's set up. It's so splintered with cells all over the place that can operate independantly that capturing a headman like that is nothing but PR.

...and merged...

Ok, so lets just stop then! :rolleyes:

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Ok, so lets just stop then!  :rolleyes:

I didn't say that, but I imagine there's a better use of resources on behalf of the public to stop terrorism. Operating out there hunting down guys like this isn't cheap, they could use that money on local marshalls and stuff within the US, undercover guards on public transport. All those kind of things. Capturing someone like this doesn't benefit the public, only the politicians.

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They need to concentrate on intelligence because half of their intelligence has been terrible. The better the intelligence, the less likelihood of fake stories of surrounding leaders. Why do I care in the #2 is surrounded? I don't because the cells all work independently, hence, why they are cells. They are gonna bomb the **** outta something else very soon.

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"...and merged..."

thanks :yes:

and yes its going to be played down... but if no one is captured... "Bush failed to capture So ans So, boo Bush". And you cant tell me that getting imp people does not hurt the morale of alQaueda.

"Pakistani forces"

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I think that Al-Queda will split into multiple groups if they catch Osama. He's the moral glue of the whole bunch. If he'll be gone, they'll fight over the leadership and at some point in time split, because everyone wants to be at the top. While this is not favorable, because multiple smaller groups can potentially do more damage than one big one, they'll be less coordinated and will have less resources at hand.

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With a network like Al Qaeda, capturing someone like that or even Osama doesn't make the slightest bit of difference because of the way it's set up. It's so splintered with cells all over the place that can operate independantly that capturing a headman like that is nothing but PR.

...and merged...

I suppose that's why a ****load of people are fighting to the death in order to save him, right?

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I think they are taking too long to catch the #2, if he is really there. I hope Pakistan or US does something drastic soon. It seems like fighting for two or so days could give him enough time to get away. I would really hate to see that.

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A "****load" being a miniscule percentage of the terrorists globally. Insignificant figure.

Right, just like the amount of US soldiers that have died in Iraq is an "insignificant number", when compared to the rest we have back home.

Insignificant or not, a lot of people are dying to save just one man.

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Right, just like the amount of US soldiers that have died in Iraq is an "insignificant number", when compared to the rest we have back home.

Insignificant or not, a lot of people are dying to save just one man.

Humanely and idealisticaly you're right, strategically he's right.

In the grand scheme of things this won't be that big of a deal or a setback to terrorists.

I'm sick and tired of everyone being fed this BS on the news about there only being like 10 intelligent people in Al Qaeda and if we somehow take out those few smart people then the rest will magically lose the capability to remotely detonate crude boms or blend into society and revert back to primitive cave-man like grunting as speech and basic hunting foraging tactics for food and all die by coming at us in a futile assualt with spears and bow and arrows because without thier leaders they aren't smart enough to do anything on thier own.

Like being a terrorist is some kind of monumental task that requires the IQ of 900 and a college degree.

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A "****load" being a miniscule percentage of the terrorists globally. Insignificant figure.

After having seen a reportage about these clowns from downunder, I wouldn't want to underestimate the size of their core group and their supporters. And no, I saw it on some german TV channel, not on US TV. They just interviewed all sort of bozos without steering their own opinions into the reportage. I tell you: Not funny what I saw.

And even if they're minuscule, you've seen often enough in the past what damage (in bodycount) a single bomb runner can do. Considering the report showed lots of schools where they're breeding these type of guys, this will be potential fun. Just not for us.

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I think an important aspect here to remember is that we are not just trying to eliminate Al Quaida but are pursuing specific person responsible for the attacks on 9/11. In that snese it si irrelavent wheteher or not the organization falls becuae of this, we are after specific supsects who committed crimes against our country .

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