Steve Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 It looks nice, like it always has, but for me, MSN messenger sucks on OS X. It feels clunky, and half the time it loses connection to the network... Feature wise it isn't all that. Don't want half the features that are in the Windows version. Mannn them chat windows look more like a fflight console... why'd ya need about 15 buttons and stuff to chat 2 someone, isn't it supposed 2 be a simple task? Bit like installing and removing apps i suppose?! LOL oh... (N) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1873061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Dear microsoft. I know UI design really isn't your thing, but can you swing buy the HIG section of the apple developer site. There you'll see the dim view of arbitrary custom UI widgets that apple (and I) take. I don't need you to code up a new pinstripe background toolbar with awful blue background despite the user preference for a "graphite" interface. I could also do without the grotesque send button, broken lables, droplists, etc. Appkit has all the UI elements you require and best of all it will match the rest of my system and behave like every other program I have. Thanks, but no thanks. These days I wonder why Apple doesn't just switch to X11 for their windowing system and let everyone write their own widgets. It's not like they were using the standard ones anyway. Hell, even apple strays from the 'one true course' now and then (see final cut, garage band). At least itunes "looks" write even if it's all custom-coded. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1873134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 doesnt even compare to the one on PC, i mean no suppport for the user pictures?? thats lame Yeah...that ever important user pics feature. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1873340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelwix Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 i'm guess asking for a copy on here would be bad huh? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1873429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rell Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 hands up those who think apple and microsoft should megre... :p (N) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1874064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dL Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Wow the Mac version of MSN looks nicer than the Windows one. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1874067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac15 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Its featureless in comparision though. These shots only show a small UI change Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1874073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premgenius Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 New Office? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1874080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted March 22, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 22, 2004 New Office? Office 2004 for Mac :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1874104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPeedY_B Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 All I want from MSN is damned web-cam support :D :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1874581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJT Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Don't we all want to be able to use a webcam with MSN Messenger for Mac, see emoticons, have and view other people's display pics, even use audio or play games together - all those features that they have on windows. I knew this would happen - didn't really surprise me, just annoyed me realy! To add insult to injury though, Next Month they'll release MSN Messenger 6.2 for Windows, in June we'll see MSN Messenger 4 for Mac and to make things worse, to celebrate MSN Messengers 5th Birthday this year in July, they'll release MSN Messenger 7 for Windows. U can see what they're doing! - someone should tell the Mac Business Unit at Microsoft to start updating and working with the MSN developers on the same features at the same time so software like msn messenger can be released for both platforms at the same time and so that it works cross platform - it's not too hard a task to do, but this is Microsoft! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1874723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharaja Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 all that i want to see in Messenger 4 is webcam/video conferencing support...the animated icons, pictures etc, i can live without... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1875017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDose Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 audio would be nice too... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1875288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mipra Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Yeah..another vote for audio Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1875396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman87 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 when i first used messenger i couldn't believe it didn't had support for audio... it sucks... the gui is kinda cool...but the windows version is way better in features Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1875792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSN6 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 hmm can u attach these icons as pngs ? Hi, XP_2003 has posted the icons and pngs that you have asked for.... here is the link for that topic.... link Can you make a skin for us with these .... ? Please... :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1875814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetRyder Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 All I want from MSN is damned web-cam support :D :D That would be great. It's a really neat feature, and works very well too :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1875841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLiZZaRd1284 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 any links Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1875900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtooth Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 user icons would be nice, I guess the same way iChat implements them, with recents ones available and zooming and cropping for it right within the program.. Videoconferencing support would be nice too, but I'm trying to get more people to use yahoo messenger anyway.. such a better mail account. Here's hoping anyway, for those who will continue to use msn! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1875912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 user icons would be nice, I guess the same way iChat implements them, with recents ones available and zooming and cropping for it right within the program..Videoconferencing support would be nice too, but I'm trying to get more people to use yahoo messenger anyway.. such a better mail account. Here's hoping anyway, for those who will continue to use msn! er ... off topic but isn't your sig way too big? :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1876122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomis_nehc Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 hrmm... question. so it sounds like msn messenger for mac doesn't have webcam support? is there a IM program that works both on mac and pc? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1876197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[hxc] Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 if you cant have quality, might as well make it look nice. :rofl: i'm just kidding, i hope they put in webcam support, that would be nice for mac users. and display picture intergration just like msn for windows would be nice too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1876213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhood Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Lets hope that avoids style over content! Looks pretty though! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1876918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticparadox Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Actually, I could really care less about display pictures. MSN for Mac in it's current form is perfectly functional, and I don't need any other bells and whistles. Audio/video support would be cool, but for the time being, I just force people to download the AIM beta if they wanna webcam me with iChat AV. The new icons are a little strange.. they don't seem too aqua-licious. Oh well... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1876990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 hrmm... question. so it sounds like msn messenger for mac doesn't have webcam support? is there a IM program that works both on mac and pc? Yahoo Messenger has webcam support on both the PC and Mac, and the newest beta of AIM on the PC is compatible with iChat on the Mac. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/2/#findComment-1877357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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