Steve Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 How is there 50 posts (inc. 2 by me) about this software? Its pretty crappy software really... IMO Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1877765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_rv Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Don't we all want to be able to use a webcam with MSN Messenger for Mac, see emoticons, have and view other people's display pics, even use audio or play games together - all those features that they have on windows.I knew this would happen - didn't really surprise me, just annoyed me realy! To add insult to injury though, Next Month they'll release MSN Messenger 6.2 for Windows, in June we'll see MSN Messenger 4 for Mac and to make things worse, to celebrate MSN Messengers 5th Birthday this year in July, they'll release MSN Messenger 7 for Windows. U can see what they're doing! - someone should tell the Mac Business Unit at Microsoft to start updating and working with the MSN developers on the same features at the same time so software like msn messenger can be released for both platforms at the same time and so that it works cross platform - it's not too hard a task to do, but this is Microsoft! I agree with RJT. When I started using OS X, I was pretty satisfied with the whole experience. What I didn't like though was the terrible feature parity when it comes to Microsoft applications. Don't get me wrong, I think the Mac BU is doing a good job with Office 2004, and MSN Explorer and Messenger on the Mac look real nice, but not having at least the same major features (i.e. webcam, audio support; leave the fluff out I say :)) as the Windows versions is a real let down. Why can't Microsoft be like companies like Adobe and produce software that provides roughly the same user experience across platfoms? I guess the problem is that Microsoft just won't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1877910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_01 Posted March 23, 2004 Author Share Posted March 23, 2004 Because they don't have to to make a profit..... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1878051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 fancy doing something for pc that looks grate Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1878154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmove Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 That's looks for a windows software :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1878155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moloko Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 oops. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1878179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamipok Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 MSN Messenger of Microsoft suck... if you want the fonction of the Windows version.. ( not the cam :( ) but the others, try this : http://www.cmq.qc.ca/4w/amsn/ don't forget to download the imagemagik pack for the small pic in discution. Thanks you ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1887379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJT Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I have added a few more snapshots including the ones posted by XP_2003 to a preview site below outlining some other featurtes that haven't been mentioned such as - auto crash recovery and error reporting, new sign-in options & new alerts and messages displays. http://mac.rjt.cjb.net/msnmessenger Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1888424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSoul Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 MSN Messenger of Microsoft suck...if you want the fonction of the Windows version.. ( not the cam :( ) but the others, try this : http://www.cmq.qc.ca/4w/amsn/ don't forget to download the imagemagik pack for the small pic in discution. Thanks you ! which company provides msn? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1888442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtooth Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 er ... off topic but isn't your sig way too big:/:/ yup, the big one's gone now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1889119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMayhem Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Office 2004 has features that 2003 for windows doesn't have. Except for not having infopath and a few other apps, I think Office for mac is better and has more features then the windows version. MSN 4 is laking a lot of features though, but I use adium anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1889479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Because they don't have to to make a profit..... Huh??? Who doesn't have to make a profit? Were you referring to Microsoft's MacBU or to Adobe, or what? Either way, your comment makes no sense. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1889820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMayhem Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Huh??? Who doesn't have to make a profit? Were you referring to Microsoft's MacBU or to Adobe, or what? Either way, your comment makes no sense. He is saying that MS is making enough money making stuff with less features, so they have no reason to add anything... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1889824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 He is saying that MS is making enough money making stuff with less features, so they have no reason to add anything... Oh, OK, I see what he meant now. I guess mentally I had dropped one of those to's out of his sentence. When you do that, it really doesn't make sense at all. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1889834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJT Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Just to let everyone know that it's not the Mac BU apparenly that make MSN Messenger for Mac and that it's the MSN team at Microsoft that develop these features. There is a way to get their attention and get them to impliment these new features, but it would mean that as many people as possible must contact them through their contact site at the link below and complain, moan and request the new features that MSN Messenger 6 has. Otherwise they won't listen and won't bother. It'll take at least a few thousand complaints to really make them jump, but all help is appreciated! http://messenger.msn.com/Help/ContactUs.aspx There's the link, the more people that fill the form in requesting the features and send it back, the more chance they will listen, petitions and other methods are being discarded and they only listen to feature requests based on the volume they get from users. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1890451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 There's the link, the more people that fill the form in requesting the features and send it back, the more chance they will listen, petitions and other methods are being discarded and they only listen to feature requests based on the volume they get from users. Thanks for the info. I filled out the form. Hopefully the fact that I'm an MSN beta tester will have a little bit of extra pull. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1893355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJT Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Thanks - I've also passed on the petition to MSN's Development Managers, so that's as good as another 6,257 people filling in the form and sending it off to them, but I still feel that we should show number's if we really want to make them jump we'll need a lot people filling in the form and sending it back to them! In the message I sent to them that includes the Petition & Signatures, I also stated that it would be good to see these new features available in MSN Messenger version 4 for Mac, even if it means pushing back the release date slightly to do so. We've waited for almost a year now since the last real update to MSN Messenger for Mac, and people are becoming impatient, so hopefully we may get some progress! Whether or not it be MSN Messenger 4 is released in June and to co-incide with the launch of MSN Messenger 7 for windows in July to celebrate MSN Messenger's 5th birthday they also release MSN Messenger 5 for Mac with the new features I'm not sure. I would hope so, otherwise we're going to have to give them a headache, bombarding them with requests and posts - as many as possible - until they can't take it any more and finally give in! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1893914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLiZZaRd1284 Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 still no links to download the new msn Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1896044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJT Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 still no links to download the new msn There won't be until June when the new version is released! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1896138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 There won't be until June when the new version is released! well, it's not entirely true..... there IS a link but according to neowin's rule... you know what I/people are gonna say :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1896392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMayhem Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 still no links to download the new msn Yeah there are, I am using it now, lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1896547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_01 Posted March 28, 2004 Author Share Posted March 28, 2004 LOL I'm using the entire Office 2004 suite :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1897792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
icaito Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 So where (links) can I go to try out the beta versions off the Office 2004 suite? Throw a bone here! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1901625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
session Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 So where (links) can I go to try out the beta versions off the Office 2004 suite? Throw a bone here! You can't if you're not in the beta :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1901668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
icaito Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Nevermind on my last post. (New to the whole shwagg here.) I just finished reading the dicussion/forum rules, and found out "soliciting" links to software is not allowed. :ninja: However, once I get around it, I'll try and do my best to pass some good info along to you guys! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/150923-msn-messenger-4/page/3/#findComment-1901700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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