JadeWolf324 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 apple will be out of business so fast if they released the mac os for x86. their OS is basically what's selling their hardware for so much money, so if they made their OS compatable with x86, their hardware would be useless, not making them any money, therefore losing a load of business. i agree, i hope they are never stupid enough to realease an X86 version now...i used to think the same way... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2152727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
While You Were Art Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Apple are moving steadily toward the software side of the business, thanks to the huge success of iTunes. I would think OS X on x86 is likely, now. Apple's hardware sales are not as big as they should be by now; home Linux still has a fractionally greater market share. If nothing else, it makes sense for Apple to leave this emulator well alone, for the time being; when people load up os x on their windows/linux boxes, they will see how gorgeous OS X looks and experience the frustration of lack of speed and functionality. At the moment, this emulator is just one more thing that sends people to Mac stores. If perfect speed and functionality could be achieved, apple are going to make a lot of money from selling OS X to Joe Windows; though I am far from a Windows XP hater, OS X is everything that Windows XP should be but isn't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2153219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
While You Were Art Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Hmm, interesting. I was over at emaculation.com and have read several posts from people with Athlon64 processors and a good whack of memory, who have found os x runs fairly smoothly. If things continue to mature, perhaps OS X on x86 is both viable and desireable. Some will argue that the way to go, instead of buying a new x86 computer/componants, is to buy a Mac and install Virtual PC on it on which to run Windows XP. I have seen Windows XP running on a G5 and it was no slouch, but on lesser spec Macs it was torture on anything but office applications. Like everyone else out there, I want one stylish box on which to toggle between all operating systems and software. Macs aren't quite up there, games wise. Actually, the idea that x86 is the future makes me feel slightly ill... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2153270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogan Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 (edited) edit: nvm, works now.. Edited May 25, 2004 by Dogan Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2156120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tran Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 I finally decided to install Panther on my machine. Damn slow. Oh the horror... 3 hours 5 minutes to go. :( Oh well, I'll have my Panther by then! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2160754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnesia Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 alright, I'm going to go buy a cheap used pc now to try this out. One quick question *ducks* (please dont bite my head off) After installing OSX, does it function normally. Meaning, can I update programs, run OSX programs, etc..? Ohh and another question, when a new version of Pearpc comes out, will we have to redo the whole installation process? CRAP another question, how slow is it? Is it like a 500 mhz pc running XP and 64 mb ram? Or is it like a time slow down, where the FPS is slowed down? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2161322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acezo Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 alright, I'm going to go buy a cheap used pc now to try this out.One quick question *ducks* (please dont bite my head off) After installing OSX, does it function normally. Meaning, can I update programs, run OSX programs, etc..? Ohh and another question, when a new version of Pearpc comes out, will we have to redo the whole installation process? CRAP another question, how slow is it? Is it like a 500 mhz pc running XP and 64 mb ram? Or is it like a time slow down, where the FPS is slowed down? 1) Most programs function normally. Just remember there's not net connection, so you'll have to download updates and import them as a CD. 2) No, you don't have to reinstall when updating PearPC. Just replace the program files :) 3) On my 3.4GHz overclocked P4, allocating 512MB ram for OS X, the OS X is really responsive (opening menus and such is really quick). Opening programs is sluggish though, for example, takes about 12 seconds to open System Preferences. I really can't compare this to anything...some things run slow, some don't Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2161414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tran Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 I just have a question: How do you allocate memory for OS X? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2162192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acezo Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 This line in your config file: memory_size=0x0000000 Settings: memory_size=0x8000000 (128mb) memory_size=0x10000000 (256mb) memory_size=0x20000000 (512mb) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2162247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tran Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Thanks. OS X is still slow though. :( Oh well, I have the Dual 1.8 downstairs. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2162324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodat Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Here is a good question :D To "possible speed up & less memory usage" which Directory Access Services can be turned OFF ? (we don't have a network connection so why use them ?) Also is there any other possible tweaks like in Windows XP to turn off other unused services (such as while OSX Panther starting it says something about printers and AMD server; since printer service do not needed; we can turn it off for to save every bit of RAM & CPU usage) ? btw: http://www.richardgoodwin.com/pearpc/ features some faster nightly builds specially optimized for Intel Pentium 4 & AMD Athlon XP Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2163972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKrout Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 has anyone had anything good happen when you change the number for CPU?? TS Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2168256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0sit0 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 lol im playing around with some numbers, doesnt seem to do anything at all :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2168267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0sit0 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Here is a good question :D To "possible speed up & less memory usage" which Directory Access Services can be turned OFF ? (we don't have a network connection so why use them ?) Also is there any other possible tweaks like in Windows XP to turn off other unused services (such as while OSX Panther starting it says something about printers and AMD server; since printer service do not needed; we can turn it off for to save every bit of RAM & CPU usage) ? btw: http://www.richardgoodwin.com/pearpc/ features some faster nightly builds specially optimized for Intel Pentium 4 & AMD Athlon XP when i run OS X 10.2 with any of this nightly builds my os wont start :( only with the old ones :cry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2168277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKrout Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 lol im playing around with some numbers, doesnt seem to do anything at all :sleep: i cant tell if it is or not... <<<keeps playin>>> TS Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2168292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodat Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 when i run OS X 10.2 with any of this nightly builds my os wont start :( only with the old ones :cry: well using nightly builds PearPC 0.2 pre from http://www.richardgoodwin.com/pearpc/ every day and upto now i had no problems... using P4 optimized version with panther fyi. i should note that 0.2 pre feels little more responsive/faster. so any suggestions for services to turn it off ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2169732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin B. Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I get this error when I try to extract raw, does anybody know why? thanks :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2172012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted May 27, 2004 Author Share Posted May 27, 2004 I get this error when I try to extract raw, does anybody know why? thanks :( no idea .. try using the new version of ISOBuster Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2172032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarok Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 When I started it I got a little command window that said "This program is free software, you can redistribute and/or modify it under the..etc etc" and then that window closed almost instantly and now nothing is happening. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2172286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin B. Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 no idea .. try using the new version of ISOBuster thanks, I got the latest version but now the option for RAW is greyed out. Oh well :wacko: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2172625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinoda Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Didn't know whether this came by already, but I used this guide and it worked like a charm (in one try!) without having to use Darwin. Emaculation OSX without Darwin Guide Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2175153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylez Ray. Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 can someone help me please? I'm trying to install 10.3, all works fine till I have to select my partition to install on.. my problem is that there is nothing i can select..before, when i installed 10.2, it worked, i changed my config since then, could someone have a look and find out what I am doing wrong? the path to the images are correct, I'm using the 6GB image... ppccfg_HD.txt Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2175234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylez Ray. Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 ok, solved the problem, I had to format the 6gb image first... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2175536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+unabatedshagie Subscriber¹ Posted May 28, 2004 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 28, 2004 Has anyone here tried installing it in linux? Is is any faster? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2175931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
proph Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Hey guys, I'm having the same problem InsaneKiwi had. I have 0 bootable partitions and I'm using the boot fix - http://s87840517.onlinehome.us/fixboot.html - but I get lost at Step 4 when they say use the command line. Uhhh, what command line? I just see this: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=...post&id=2139568. I'm not sure where this "command line" is, and whether it's the cmd.exe window open or something else. I can't type "pdisk" to access the partitioning software. Help!! :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/167708-installing-os-x-102-on-a-pc/page/6/#findComment-2176205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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