Island Dog Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 ASTANA, Kazakhstan (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin, in comments sure to help President Bush, declared Friday that Russia knew Iraq's Saddam Hussein had planned terror attacks on U.S. soil and had warned Washington. Putin said Russian intelligence had been told on several occasions that Saddam's special forces were preparing to attack U.S. targets inside and outside the United States. "After the events of September 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, Russian special services several times received information that the official services of the Saddam regime were preparing 'terrorist acts' on the United States and beyond its borders," he told reporters. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?t...storyID=5457972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoyablue Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 We all know we can trust Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island Dog Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 We all know we can trust Putin. If the headline was......"Putin told U.S. that Saddam was not a threat"......I'm sure he would be trusted by you people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoyablue Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 If the headline was......"Putin told U.S. that Saddam was not a threat"......I'm sure he would be trusted by you people. You're sure? We have a psychic on this board, people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Veteran Posted June 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 18, 2004 You're sure?We have a psychic on this board, people! While I agree Putin is an ex-KGB butcher who is not to be trusted. deepisland is probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island Dog Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 I'm pretty sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoyablue Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 By the way, I did a research paper on how Putin controls the education system thus not allowing students to embrace a democracy upon graduation. This prevents democratization from progressing in Russia. The research paper also discussed various stigmatic areas in which Putin cannot be trusted such as the structure of Russa's government. Did you know that Putin has to be impeached twice in order to be kicked out as President? But wait, everybody, trust Putin! I would never trust Putin even if he did take my side. Bad prediction on your part, Deepisland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island Dog Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 By the way, I did a research paper on how Putin controls the education system thus not allowing students to embrace a democracy upon graduation. This prevents democratization from progressing in Russia. The research paper also discussed various stigmatic areas in which Putin cannot be trusted such as the structure of Russa's government. Good for you. But once again, if the story was reversed, you would be agreeing wtih it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island Dog Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 I would never trust Putin even if he did take my side. Bad prediction on your part, Deepisland. Fair enough, but I will change "you" to "people". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Good for you. But once again, if the story was reversed, you would be agreeing wtih it. Uh, yeah. If the story were reversed, it would be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Uh, yeah. If the story were reversed, it would be true. oh please, if there was any information that proved Bush wrong in anyway, (ie: moore's new movie (because he's real credible)) you all jump all over it and use it against bush-supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3n Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 oh please, if there was any information that proved Bush wrong in anyway, (ie: moore's new movie (because he's real credible)) you all jump all over it and use it against bush-supporters. im going to draw your attention to the vital word in your post proved yes if it proved him to be wrong im sure i would use it as evidence ;) :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 im going to draw your attention to the vital word in your postproved yes if it proved him to be wrong im sure i would use it as evidence ;) :rolleyes: okay i'm sorry.... replace "proved" with "inferred" or something of the sort. and you know damn well you would jump all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Interesting. If true, what exactly would he have done? And with what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Veteran Posted June 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 18, 2004 Wow this thread is just full of back-peddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island Dog Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 Wow this thread is just full of back-peddling. That shouldn't be surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 oh please, if there was any information that proved Bush wrong in anyway, (ie: moore's new movie (because he's real credible)) you all jump all over it and use it against bush-supporters. What? There's more stories in the news every single day about how wrong Bush was. And hell, the very fact that we have gotten nothing out of Iraq (WMD? Al Queda?) should be proof enough that he was clearly wrong about Iraq's importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island Dog Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 What? There's more stories in the news every single day about how wrong Bush was. And hell, the very fact that we have gotten nothing out of Iraq (WMD? Al Queda?) should be proof enough that he was clearly wrong about Iraq's importance. And there is just as many that shows Bush was right. The problem is nobody wants to acknowledge those. As far as WMD's. We have found some, and we have found evidence that Saddam was destroying or hiding them. As far as al qaeda, there are many links with them....number one being al zawaqari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3n Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 And there is just as many that shows Bush was right. The problem is nobody wants to acknowledge those.As far as WMD's. We have found some, and we have found evidence that Saddam was destroying or hiding them. As far as al qaeda, there are many links with them....number one being al zawaqari. i do not ignore the evidence i meerly feel that one sarin shell and a couple of engines in a scrap yard do not ammount to an threat deployable within 45 minuites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island Dog Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 i do not ignore the evidencei meerly feel that one sarin shell and a couple of engines in a scrap yard do not ammount to an threat deployable within 45 minuites A deployable threat within 45 doesn't make a differnce if it's WMD's or not. One shell could kill thousands of people.You do realize, don't you, that American forces in Iraq haven't been looking for Saddam's weapons of mass destruction for as long as Hillary Clinton looked for her "missing" Rose Law Firm billing records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Hawk Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Um didn't you guys say that Bush couldn't do anything when he was warned about 9/11? Cause he didn't know where, when or some bs. What's the difference now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3n Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 A deployable threat within 45 doesn't make a differnce if it's WMD's or not. One shell could kill thousands of people. so what happened to imediate threat which is the only time a country can invade another without un security council aprovel under the UN charter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 i do not ignore the evidencei meerly feel that one sarin shell and a couple of engines in a scrap yard do not ammount to an threat deployable within 45 minuites whether you find it a threat or not, they were WMD. whether it was one or 3408223, there were WMD. The UN found out that Saddam was shipping components out of the country before during and after the war. source But Saddam complied with everything and never had any WMD.... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island Dog Posted June 18, 2004 Author Share Posted June 18, 2004 so what happened to imediate threatwhich is the only time a country can invade another without un security council aprovel under the UN charter Saddam passing sarin gas to a terrorist is an immediate threat to me. The U.N.'s own resolutions permitted the use of force againt Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 whether you find it a threat or not, they were WMD. whether it was one or 3408223, there were WMD. The UN found out that Saddam was shipping components out of the country before during and after the war. source But Saddam complied with everything and never had any WMD.... right? Look, if you're going to go the route that Saddam really was a viable threat, then why the hell aren't we doing anything about North Korea? Not only are they a longer standing enemy with the US, they're a much larger and closer threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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