Sporkguy Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Clearly 'Emily' has ripped off the msstyles version of this theme. I don't see the big fuss about posting links to the real version, it's out there for people to google, if people want it enough, they will find it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2416071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 cool Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2422335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephiK Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 nice kinda looks like the same but i have the retail version 8/10 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2427456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogboy Administrators Posted July 6, 2004 Author Administrators Share Posted July 6, 2004 Frogboy, it's disallowed because it's non-official release but some beta-testers leaked it which Neowin can't accept this terms and said no Royale for download in Neowin forum. I guess it's admin's mistaken for misunderstanding about rule in MSStyle forum. Many mods said no theme is allowed if it still contains Royale related resources so WB is not right to release in neowin too. If it is, I will release mine as msstyle containing Royale resources (with little mod), OK? Have you ever looked at a WindowBlinds skin? First off, .msstyles files already start with 2 strikes against them because they're ultimately derivatives of the Luna.msstyles (StyleBuilder, for instance, appears to just be a resource hacker -- it just replaces bitmap resources in luna.msstyles and change the name). .msstyles files still contain Microsoft's copyright and digital signature (no longer valid since the checksum is different but it demonstrates the source of the original file). Secondly, the Royale.msstyles file is actually a system file taken and redistributed. It's no different than taking say the Tivo-like application in Media Center and posting it on the net. Is the Royale WindowBlinds skin a port of the Royale .msstyles? Maybe. But it's not the same file. Given the number of Apple MacOS X visual styles here on Neowin I can't see the argument against a WindowBlinds rendition of Royale. IF Microsoft asks us to remove it, then absolutely. But we've heard nothing from Microsoft on the matter. But that is one of the advantages of using a third party format. .msstyles belongs to Microsoft. They have generously not objected to third parties making their own .msstyles files at this point. But it does mean that Microsoft has the right to block ANY .msstyles file out there they choose to at any time. Apparently Microsoft does not want the Royale .msstyles out there. If you want to come up with your very own skin format or use another non-Microsoft skin format then go for it. But as long as you're choosing to use Microsoft's skin format, you have to follow Microsoft's rules. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2432421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 is it just me but the status bar is bright pink in firefox and explorer? or are my settings crapped up? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2434868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endoscient Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Damn posting link to a wincustomize, I don't wanna make an account to download it, and im using free version of Windowblidns so i dont got a stardock one. You always try to get a dig at msstyles Frogboy, sound at least a little less bias Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2435391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Damn posting link to a wincustomize, I don't wanna make an account to download it, and im using free version of Windowblidns so i dont got a stardock one.You always try to get a dig at msstyles Frogboy, sound at least a little less bias I wonder why....rofl. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2435404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuarterSwede Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 (edited) Secondly, the Royale.msstyles file is actually a system file taken and redistributed.? It's no different than taking say the Tivo-like application in Media Center and posting it on the net. Actually, I'm going to argue that they are completely different. There is a big difference between, what I would consider art and software. However, I do agree that it is just as wrong to download the .msstyle file as it is wrong to download an application. Here is a better simile: Downloading the Royale.msstyle file is like stealing a copy of a Van Gogh painting. Edited July 7, 2004 by Jstphish Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2435442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endoscient Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I downloaded it. It is good except for a few things like the startbutton. Besides that no different then the msstyle version (none of wb extra features are in use). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2437466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder Veteran Posted July 7, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2004 is it just me but the status bar is bright pink in firefox and explorer?or are my settings crapped up? :blink: nope, same here. the theme has quite a few issues. has far too many rough edges for me to use it on a constant basis Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2437480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogboy Administrators Posted July 7, 2004 Author Administrators Share Posted July 7, 2004 Odd as I'm not seeing pink here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2438926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrinder Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 There is a big difference between distributing Microsoft's actual file and a skin that resembles the contents of that file. :rofl: The reason it resembles Royale is because it was imported with skinstudio. It's a rip no matter what kind of bs spin you put on it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2439524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogboy Administrators Posted July 7, 2004 Author Administrators Share Posted July 7, 2004 I agree, it's an OS rip just like all those Aqua skins, BeOS skins, OS/2 skins, Luna skins, etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2440863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endoscient Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Like how the Tiger skin posted by KoL is fine because it isn't the same file that comes fith Tiger but it is a "rip" of it. Same with this but on the same platform. You can't post a msstyle bc that is releasing resources that are copyrighted by Microsoft. But Apple or Microsoft could ask these themes to stoping being distributed and they would have to. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2442112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrinder Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Like how the Tiger skin posted by KoL is fine because it isn't the same file that comes fith Tiger but it is a "rip" of it. Same with this but on the same platform. You can't post a msstyle bc that is releasing resources that are copyrighted by Microsoft. But Apple or Microsoft could ask these themes to stoping being distributed and they would have to. The issue some members have is this, the mods have said no one can post a vs that even resembles Royale but here in the windowblinds forum a mod has posted a link to download Royal in windowblinds format. The problem I see is that this windowblinds skin is a direct rip of Royale, it was imported from the original msstyle and it uses direct copies of the images. It just seems like a double standard which is why some members are complaining. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2442644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitjel Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 I just don't how other sites (getskinned, flex-beta, etc) have the Royale download linked straight off their home page but for some reason Neowin has a problem with it. :huh: I bet MS is just laughing at the whole thing anyway: "Yeah, we spent 15 minutes in Photoshop to "Mac"-ize Luna and now people are acting like they discovered gold by downloading something called 'Royale'." :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2442710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ls_dragons Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 I agree with Smitjel. It is not that nice looking. I think the only reason people want it is that it is 'forbidden'. Same reason people who have absolutely no idea what they are doing want to download and install leaked alpha or beta version of new operating systems etc - they think they are 'getting over' on Microsoft. Have fun suckers! Why not look through the forum (or wincustomize or any number of other sites) and download truly original and good looking visual styles or WB skins. LS_Dragons Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2444241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewman Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 I agree with Smitjel. It is not that nice looking. I think the only reason people want it is that it is 'forbidden'. Same reason people who have absolutely no idea what they are doing want to download and install leaked alpha or beta version of new operating systems etc - they think they are 'getting over' on Microsoft. Have fun suckers! Why not look through the forum (or wincustomize or any number of other sites) and download truly original and good looking visual styles or WB skins.LS_Dragons :D :p (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2447504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endoscient Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 The issue some members have is this, the mods have said no one can post a vs that even resembles Royale but here in the windowblinds forum a mod has posted a link to download Royal in windowblinds format. The problem I see is that this windowblinds skin is a direct rip of Royale, it was imported from the original msstyle and it uses direct copies of the images. It just seems like a double standard which is why some members are complaining. :) Never said that that made sense. Also if people wanna go the route that this shouldn't be allowed then niether should mac ports. The world is full of double standards. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2448713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night.Hawk Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 The world is full of double standards. I agree with that ;) Unfortunately, those that know that are overlooked. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2448755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night.Hawk Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 nope, same here. the theme has quite a few issues. has far too many rough edges for me to use it on a constant basis could you post a pic of where you are seeing pink? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2448766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogboy Administrators Posted July 10, 2004 Author Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2004 Here's my desktop running Royale (with ObjecDock Plus). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2455878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewman Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 http://www.stardock.com/products/objectdoc...ts/Previe11.jpgHere's my desktop running Royale (with ObjecDock Plus). Looking mighty spiffy Frogboy. :) ObjectDock+ looks really nice. (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2455990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ls_dragons Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 I just purchased ObjectDock Plus and have installed. I can't seem to get TAB DOCKS to work. Don't see at all where there are tabs like in the screenshots. Where exactly do you enable this? Do yourequire a special 'tabbed theme' in order for tabs to appear? LS Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2459589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogboy Administrators Posted July 11, 2004 Author Administrators Share Posted July 11, 2004 I'm a little confused. The default load up of ObjectDock includes a tabbed dock. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/185531-vs-royale/page/2/#findComment-2460395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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