GNRambo Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 HAHAHAHAHA~!!!!! my service sucks too :cry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2426527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 Hope they lose money and customers for doing this! NILDRAM RULES! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2426561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidoinkel Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 erm, nildram use bt lines. if bt enforce this then so will nildram as they will need to pay overheads on the excess in gb you download. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2428763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 erm, nildram use bt lines. if bt enforce this then so will nildram as they will need to pay overheads on the excess in gb you download. You sure about this, I was under the impression they wont have caps as Nildram have their own brought lines so they can carry on without enforcing limits. Damn, I wish cable was availiable here :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 It doesnt surprise me that BTopenworld are enforcing download caps after all they are a second rate ISP and a waste of time IMO. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 erm, nildram use bt lines. if bt enforce this then so will nildram as they will need to pay overheads on the excess in gb you download. spido, u dont half talk nonsense. It is BTopenworld enforcing the caps which is a totally seperate company from BT Telecommunications. BT only supply the facility of ADSL within the telephone exchange and within the PSTN nationally, so how you come to the conclusion that other ISPs will have to comply is total b***ocks. BTW i know this cos im a qualified BT network engineer. its conjectures like yours that start off inaccurate and incorrect rants. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewy Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Finally. The world catches up with Australia for once. :rolleyes: Yay, *does a dance* :shifty: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewy Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 If there not enforcing a policy, its not a restriction.There was nothing in their General Terms of Service on Bandwidth Limits when I signed up to BT broadband and I for one will be cancelling my Broadband, Phone, everything with BT and moving to another provider. I will make it known to BT that, this is my reason for changing and hope that many others do too. You signed the contract with a 'no restrictions' plan you should be able to keep that since that is what you signed up for and continue to use it unstill your contract period it up Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy_guts Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Well my BTOpenworld/Yahoo contract finished ages ago so I'm now free to change. I do about 60-70gb a month combined so the 15gb cap just won't be enough. I'm thinking of migrating to plusnet :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Panda Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Just wondering what would happen if you played online games most of the time such as HL mods? I am not on BT but with blueyonder. :D But i am just interested in how much you transfer with games. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
longwilli Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 more here https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=185655&st=60 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Floyd Veteran Posted July 6, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 6, 2004 I am glad to live up there ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbus Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 What I cannot understand is what if somebody wanted to pay for and download more than 15GB of music from itunes or something similar. Wouldn't BT then be limiting another companies sales?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echilon Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 That really sucks arse. I can't get NTL cable. I've never really monitored how much bandwidth I use, but the people that this actually affects will just turn to trading circles for movies/apps etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2429994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozric Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 I got the letter from BT today, oh well by the time it's enforced I 'll have done my minimum contract so I'll just swap to a service that isn't so tight! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2430047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4CxbqFxVnstmA Veteran Posted July 6, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 6, 2004 perhaps complaining to oftel is a good idea, because bt has never cared what its customers think: they only listen to oftel Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2430076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozric Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 (edited) perhaps complaining to oftel is a good idea, because bt has never cared what its customers think: they only listen to oftel Nah it looks like that's the way most ISP's are going that way but there's still Bulldog Broadband, looks like a lot better deal and they have been highly rated. Edited July 6, 2004 by ozric Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2430106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 I think every ISP will follow in these steps one day or another.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2430110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbus Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Nah it looks like that's the way most ISP's are going but there's still Bulldog Broadband, looks like a lot better deal and they have been highly rated. Yes and there's also Eclipse who also offer a fixed IP address for free and even 8 IPs if you request it. The reason ISPs are doing it is because they get charged by the terrabyte that goes through the big exchange thing in london. If their costs are becoming too high they have to do something about it, or it could just be because they want more money. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2430140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~clean Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Realy funny thing about this is ive just seen the BT "No download limit" comercial on ITV in the news break !!! LOL i guess this was a sort of quick decition Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2430215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futb0l Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Heh, they're following Australia, I h8 non-unlimited broadbands... here in Australia, we used to have unlimited then we have pay heapz for just 3gb, however the competition is better now and we get a cheaper price. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2430242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangermoose Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Realy funny thing about this is ive just seen the BT "No download limit" comercial on ITV in the news break just so you know they arent limiting the download limit the way aol etc do, they will merrily let u carry on over the limit, but charge you through the roof for it. glad i go back uni in september, no limits there and a hellva lot faster than any residential line :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2430601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erp Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 From what I've been reading at dslreports.com the brits and aussies are really getting screwed. If Time Warner could get license to offer Roadrunner in Great Britain they would probably get sued as a monopoly. RR would put BT out of business in a month. I consistantly get 2800/350 with no cap for $45USD. The brits would probably be happy to pay twice that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2431636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 From BT's New Broadband terms and conditions:Why is BT introducing usage allowances? BT is introducing usage allowances on its Broadband products in order to offer a better and fairer deal to the majority of customers. The benefit of introducing usage limits is that it enables us to charge most users substantially less. Usage allowances give you the ability to transfer up to 15Gb of data per month with the BT Broadband and BT Yahoo! Broadband 512kbps services or 30Gb of data per month with the BT Broadband 1Mb or BT Yahoo! Broadband 1MB services. The amount of data transferred is the total data received by the end user (downloaded) AND sent by the end user (uploaded) over their broadband service and is measured in Kilobytes (KB), Megabytes (Mb) or Gigabytes (GB). 1Mb = 1024KB; and 1GB = 1024Mb. Check out the table below to give you an idea of what 15GB a month usage allowance may mean to you. All of these things - not just one of them - are possible within 15GB a month; Surfing the Internet - 15 hours each day Sending 250 JPEG pictures via e-mail every week Receiving 250 JPEG pictures via e-mail every week Downloading 250 music tracks every week Downloading three hours of video clips every week Listening to online radio for fifteen hours every week Sending 3000 emails every week without (no attachments) Receiving 3000 emails every week (no attachments) Will BT start charging me if I use more than 15 / 30Gb per month? These allowances have been set at levels that will not affect the vast majority of our customers. BT will not start charging for usage above the allowances until early 2005. After this time, if you go over your monthly allowance you can decide if you want to buy more capacity, so you are in control of your bill. We will confirm prices for additional usage nearer this time but indicative prices for additional usage allowance top ups are currently ?2 per additional GB, although we plan to develop a range of options that could make this even less. What will I be charged if I use more than 15 / 30Gb? > Remember most customers will not be affected by these limits. In the event that you use up your monthly allowance, you decide if you want to buy more capacity, so you have control of your bill. BT will only begin to apply these charges in early 2005 and will confirm prices for additional usage nearer this time. Indicative prices for additional usage allowance top ups are ?2 per additional GB, although BT plans to develop a range of options that could make this even less. Leebobs:angry:y: so should that mean for 1gb of bandwidth a day would be changed at ?27 a month like it is at the moment or are they out to make money Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2431654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trix Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 does this effect business plans? ie bt business 500 plus? if it does im gonna die i transfere more around 140+GB amonth 15GB isnt gonna cut it for me :cry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/186518-bt-is-introducting-bandwidth-limits/page/2/#findComment-2432259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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