Guest Smithee Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi everyone, Firstly I've built loads of AMD machines before quite happily. I've been given a machine with a Intel Pentium 4 processor and need to replace the motherboard. As I tried to remove the heatsink I found that actually the processor was stuck its underneath! Is this normal for P4 machines? :huh: It's a Medion/Cybermaxx machine which hasn't been taken apart since it was bought. Now I can't get it back in because the processor socket won't click in with a HSF on top of it. As far as I can tell, none of the pins have bent or broken (quite a miracle really) and I've tried removing the CPU from the bottom, but it's rock hard. They must have used cement or something. It literally won't budge. :no: Help! What should I do. I've uploaded a couple of pictures, the first one shows the CPU stuck to the HSF,. and the second shows the motherboard exactly as it was after the CPU/HSF was removed. Notice the clamp for the CPU socket is down. I don't know how I got it out like that, but when I removed the CPU, the clamp was still in the down position. Any ideas..., it's not my machine! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smithee Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Here's the motherboard with CPU latch, still latched. So, should I take a knife to the CPU, or is that suicide :unsure: ? Sorry about the big images. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-penguin Veteran Posted July 25, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 25, 2004 It normal for this thing to happen the thermal pad/paste gets to a point where it sticks really bad and feels like its glued in. you should be able to pull it off with some effort. for a last resort you could try to pry it off, however.. only pry from underneath the IHS not anywhere else or you'll risk damaging the processor. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamthief Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 are you talking bout getting the area marked with red unlatched? If you are... you must push it a bit sideways.. and lift it up to release it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smithee Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 are you talking bout getting the area marked with red unlatched?If you are... you must push it a bit sideways.. and lift it up to release it. No, I know how to get it unlatched, but when I removed the CPU/HSF combi, it was still ltched up. If you know what I mean. Normally you'd unlatch it to remove the processor, but it came straight out while it was still latched. I assumed it would break if that happened, but it hasn't. Am I making myself clear? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniacid Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 I've had this happen many times and it hasn't damaged anything, just be careful when you pry off the chip Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG11489 Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 why dont u turn on the computer for an hour or so so the thermal pad or paste will get easier to come off Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smithee Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 It's off now :bounce: :jump: ! I had to pry it off from the plastick bit as I just couldn't get it under the metal Heat Transfer part. Thankfully it seems to be in tact. Off to PC World for some more thermal paste now. Thanks guys, I was getting a little worried there :blush: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiffy0517 Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 best way to do it is as VG11489 said heat it up a bit and try to take it off then, if that fails then take a small knife and try to get under as much as you can before you pry it up, it happened to my parents celeron afters 2 years without touching its hs. quite nasty actually the paste was yellow and hard :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-penguin Veteran Posted July 25, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 25, 2004 wow look what it did to that thing... just remember to tell your friend refresh that paste every once and a while Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smithee Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 wow look what it did to that thing... just remember to tell your friend refresh that paste every once and a while Normally I would, but this friend wouldn't know thermal paste if his mouth was glued shut with it! I'll probably just do it myself. But then again he bought his computer from Toys R Us. In case you don't get that around the world, it's a giant chain of toy stores. Not the first place I'd look for a computer. So that's why Intel CPUs are always cooler than AMDs. The Intels physically attach themselves to the HSF :cry: ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bartekpl Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 O WOW. good thing i dont use a stock heat sink that came with my cpu. that black compount is a killer! Toys R Us sells computers :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgevella Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 this happened to me too on my Dell Smartstep, the CPU had some sort of thermal pad (which later i replaced with Artic Silver). When the CPU remained attached to the heat sink, i dismantled it a little (took off the fan, and some metal) and heated the HSF on the Hob (kitchen burners) until i could remove the cpu easily with damaging anything. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Grey Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 you're really not supposed to remove it by prying it off - the correct way is to dissolve the pad/paste with mineral spirits, carburetor cleaner or high-purity alcohol. Of course yanking it off the heatsink using your own hands is also an option. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narlzac85 Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Toys R Us sells computers :blink: my thoughts exactly :p The store around here has gone downhill badly ever since Wal-mart moved in next door. I haven't even looked in there for at least a year Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2554969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smithee Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 The last thing I bought from Toys R Us, was an Action Man ab-sailing figure and GameBoy Pocket (remember those) when I was about 10 or 11. But apparently they do sell computers and for some reson he bought one from there. He's a 30 something, married with a baby girl and another on the way. :rolleyes: Here's a Toys R Us PC: http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Product.aspx/TruH...sDesktop/824577 And in retrospect, I guess maybe I should have used a solvent or heated it or something, before just taking the knife to it. It's okay this time, but I'll remember for next time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2555076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psy Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 next time use a hair dryer to heat up the sink and it should come off easy (had to do that to a friends puter) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/194631-the-cpus-stuck-to-the-hsf/#findComment-2555609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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