Kumki Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Why don't they just reverse the results, Give the South Korean the gold and Hamm the silver. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584410194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Read above... I think someone already said why. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584410390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Why not give him a second gold medal if a retarded rule like that prevents him from receiving the gold medal that he deserves? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584414143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumTrickery Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Going back and making changes is completely uncalled for, and undermines the whole process. I'm sure they could find other judging errors if they went back through the tapes (which is what they'd have to do to be 100% fair in that aspect) Its much like having a football game, then complaining *after* its over about a holding penalty that could change the outcome. Plain and simple the rules are rules, and the Koreans don't deserve exceptions to the rules, nor does anyone else. Learn to work within the rules, or just don't bother showing up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584414636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Agreed. Although I wouldn't care if they gave the Korean a second gold medal. Not like they're going to win the medal count or anything, to be honest. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584415914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted August 23, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 23, 2004 Gold medal was given "by mistake" to white American instead of Yang, South Korean. Medal will not be given to Yang despite the incontrovertible fact that he scored better than Hamm. Right, because we all know that nothing but white people run the Olympics... :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584416181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted August 23, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 23, 2004 Gold medal was given "by mistake" to white American instead of Yang, South Korean. Yes, because afterall, Yang was black :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584419315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unique Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 i will agree the judging in these olympics has been terrible...guy from canada finished 4th behind a romanian who fell...in the vault...wtf? initial appeal was turned down...by the head of the international gymnastics thingamabob...who is...haha, romanian...get that. :s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584419336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitaholic Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Oh com'n, we all know it's because he's white :rolleyes: :laugh: Im asian and i copied that post from another site.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584420197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitaholic Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Don't you dare turn this into a race bit.:angry:y: Lol, trust me, you dont know the half and also, i forgot to mentioned that i got that quote from another site. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584420206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bithub Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Lol, trust me, you dont know the half Please enlighten us Mr. insider. The panel on the parallel bars that gave the korean the low score was composed of 2 judges. One from columbia, and one from spain. Explain again how this is a race issue? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584420351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitaholic Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 i never said it was. I was being scarcastic. Wasnt it 3 judges? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584420357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bithub Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 The article I read said two judges per panel. I was being scarcastic You need to work on your internet sarcasm. Im sure I wasn't the only one who missed it :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584420435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Actually, on the rebroadcast of the individual competition, the announcers were saying the Korean did a -0.2 deduction move on the parrallel bars, basiically negating the 'offence' of the judges. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584420733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thop Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 The american announcers right? ;) No surprise here. Anyway Hamm got gold, all discussion is moot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584422863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 The american announcers right? ;) No surprise here. Anyway Hamm got gold, all discussion is moot. Doesn't matter who stated it. It was a fact, they showed the error. You are only supposed to have a total of three 'holds' (where you are motionless) on the parallel bars. The S Korean did it 4 times, which should have given him an automatic -0.2 deduction...which wasn't given. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584436089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+chorpeac MVC Posted August 26, 2004 MVC Share Posted August 26, 2004 Hamm will forever be known as the guy who won a gold, based on calculation errors....give it up already! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584436114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted August 27, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 27, 2004 At least he got the gold :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584439354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thop Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 At least he got the gold :p That's the american spirit, always #1 no matter how. Generousity is certainly not an american virtue ;) A honest silver is worth more than an undeserved gold, he would've been known as THE man of the olympics if he had've given the gold back and accepted silver. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584448820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger.Girl Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Even if they went back and rescored for the korean there is also a deduction the judges missed that would put him right back where he started Also after seeing his poor routine in the horizontal bar compitition he defiantly doesnt deserve the title of mens all around gold medal winner Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584448873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 A honest silver is worth more than an undeserved gold, he would've been known as THE man of the olympics if he had've given the gold back and accepted silver. Yoohoo? You listening? Why should Hamm give it to the guy who wouldn't have even medaled had his score been properly given? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584448988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted August 28, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 28, 2004 Hamm didn't cheat his way to the gold, therefore, he has no reason to give it back. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584449536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyntek Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Hamm will forever be known as the guy who won a gold, based on calculation errors....give it up already! It was said in an interview with a former gymnast that the Korean should have had another deduction to his scoring which wasn't caught. He was only allowed 3 holds in his routine, he clearly performed four. So if the scoring was correctly done, Hamm would still have one gold. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584449560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwizzel-B Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 LinkI knew there was something wrong with Hamm's final score. The South Korean's challenged the final rankings, and thus after some inspection, it seems the judges involved has been suspended. They're not allowed to change the metal standings though. I feel sorry for the Korean. Because of biased refs, he lost his dream. That's a bunch of crap. It wasn't bias towards an American at all. They accidently set the start value of that Korean dudes routine by 1/10 of a point. It was an accidental mistake, that shouldn't have been made. There was *nothing* wrong with Hamm's score, you're fabricating that too. Keep the focus of your hate on the judges: they, and ONLY they are responsible for the scoring error on the one Korean gymnasts routine. They also missed the .2 deduction that would have rendered this entire discussion moot. It's all on the judges, not the gymnasts. They all got the medals that they deserved. :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584449726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifive Posted August 28, 2004 Author Share Posted August 28, 2004 Ha, yep, that post was made before I did some research on it. And before NBC replayed it with better commentary. Anyways, it was human error, but still jeoperdized the final standings. Paul Hamm should keep his gold, but I think the Korean should have gotten a gold too. It's horrendous to me that the IOC would ask Hamm to give back the gold. That's just wrong, but there's nothing wrong with sharing the gold: they did this in Sydney. I don't understand why the IOC want Hamm to give back the gold... Just create another one and have them share it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/205709-olympics-paul-hamm-wins-mens-all-around/page/2/#findComment-584450980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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