Command & Conquer 3

[John Veteran]

SPOILERS

No, they are linked. At the end of the RA1 Russian campaign when Nadio shoots Stalin she says "the Brotherhood will be pleased", then Kane comes enters stage right (he whispered in Stalin's ear in an earlier FMV as an advisor/aide) and says that they can "come out of the shadows" or similar. :)

Edit: Oh, and look at those Zeppelins. Recognise that logo from anywhere? :p

Yes, I remember Kane being in the end of the Russian campaign, but I figured it was a joke :huh:

And what about the zepplins? I haven't played the newer C&C games (Generals, Renegade, etc)...

[jamesp]

Yes, I remember Kane being in the end of the Russian campaign, but I figured it was a joke :huh:

And what about the zepplins? I haven't played the newer C&C games (Generals, Renegade, etc)...

Dude, http://www.tasmediafile.com/Projects/Reneg...inRT%5B1%5D.jpg

That was going to be in Renegade 2, which never happened.

[Shannon]

I miss the old storylines. Generals is so crap now that I think about it. :(

[aldo]

Aldo, sorry, but you're wrong. I'm pretty sure C&C is a different storyline from Red Alert. Also, C&C "1" is C&C: Tiberian Dawn. C&C "2" is C&C: Tiberian Sun. C&C "3" will be C&C: Tiberian Twilight. In the course of a day, the sun first appears at dawn, then is in they sky for the daytime, and then goes down around twilight. Tiberian Twilight will be the third course of the C&C story; it's not a prequel.

You are pretty wrong :).

They are the same storylines. Generals of course, as totally ****** that up and I can't see how the hell that links in! Maybe they'll try to buy makng some bull**** up about it being inbetween RA2 and C&C1, but we'll see. Hopefully we can just forget about Generals and go back to good ol' C&C stories :).

[John Veteran]

How am I wrong? :p

[DoNuTs]

How am I wrong? :p

It's the position of the moon and the orbit sattelites.

Remember white rabbits don't fly alone on a sunday night ;)

[John Veteran]

:huh:

I'm leaving this thread now...

[Cloud Geek]

looks good but one question is there going to be gdi and nod or another messed up game like generals :rolleyes:

[Cloud Geek]

ok command and conquer 1 came out before red alert and cnc one had nod vs gdi i always thought red alert was garbage so i moved to Tiberian Sun witch had nod vs gdi and same thing nod and gdi in renegade then came generals china ,usa and gla and that makes no sence and in renagade we never found out if cane died or if nod had any other bases somewhere else in the world

so if cnc 3 is anything like renegade it will be worth playing :yes:

Edited August 22, 2004 by MvT Cracker

[DoNuTs]

ok command and conquer 1 came out before red alert and cnc one had nod vs gdi i always thought red alert was garbage so i moved to Tiberian Sun witch had nod vs gdi and same thing nod and gdi in renegade then came generals china ,usa and gla and that makes no sence and in renagade we never found out if cane died or if nod had any other bases somewhere else in the world

so if cnc 3 is anything like renegade it will be worth playing :yes:

CC3 isn't in production ....

Command & Conquer 3 - 2002:

Command and conquer 3 was to be the third installment to the C&C franchise set in the near future, It was to be a real time strategy game using what is now the generals engine. This is the 4th title that I worked on that never got past the pre-production stage.

[Ayepecks]

Aldo, sorry, but you're wrong. I'm pretty sure C&C is a different storyline from Red Alert. Also, C&C "1" is C&C: Tiberian Dawn. C&C "2" is C&C: Tiberian Sun. C&C "3" will be C&C: Tiberian Twilight. In the course of a day, the sun first appears at dawn, then is in they sky for the daytime, and then goes down around twilight. Tiberian Twilight will be the third course of the C&C story; it's not a prequel.

Somewhat. Red Alert was a prequel to Command & Conquer. Red Alert 2 had nothing to do with the Command & Conquer story.

Also, EA bought Westwood a long time ago. Before Tiberian Sun was even released. I think it was right around the time Red Alert was released, not positive, though. But they've owned them a lot longer than 6 years.

EA consolidated Westwood into their EALA studio (with the Medal Of Honor team) a couple of years ago. Most people from Westwood and EA Pacific (formerly Westwood Pacific) moved. Some didn't... some went to Petroglyph (Joe Bostic, C&C co-creator founded it).

DoNuTs? -- please read the rest of the topic. C&C3is> in production, but it isnot> what he was working on. Just because his work was scrapped doesnot> mean the entire idea for C&C3 was scrapped. Former Westwood and EALA people have already confirmed it's in the works.

[Cloud Geek]

well i use to check out the gamespy command and conquer page and they said westwood was purchased right after renagade was made owell not important

someone please make a cnc game lol :yes: :p

[Osiris]

They are meant to be seperate storylines, some of what you say makes sense, but on the original C&C nod comes to power via the poor countires of africa and the wartorn Middle east. I very clearly remember and cherish the original game, and its FMVs....

Seems to be you invented a storyline based around the events after the fact.

Your making bold conclusions jumping from RA2 > GDI, there was never any storyline that mentioned after the defeat of Russia for a second time they merged into one power to fight terrorism.

As I said some of what you said makes sense, but alot doesnt, youve added in parts of your on imagination to the storyline as near as I can tell. As I said seems like your creating a storyline to bend into what information available, not what actually is.

In any event, this whole thing was sparked off by one guy, who worked on the prototype version of Twilight. I will bet my membership at neowin, that we see C&C Twilight in the next 2 years. (Or at least it will be on the radar by then)

There is no way EA would be so blind as to turn their back on this franchise, I would venture they are letting it simmer and build up excitement for a ground breaking revival of the game, much the same as Blizzard has consistently avoided any information on a StarCraft 2 (RTS Starcraft not the upcomming Action one). They know there will always be a market of devoted fans who love the game, they let them simmer, new teens enter the market, not like the old fans are going anywhere.

Personally I hope EA take their time with C&C Tiberian Twilight, because quite frankly Tiberian Sun was kinda dissapointing, and the whole storyline now rests of Tiberian Twilight, so it would be a massive project.

[jamesp]

*Looks at av and sighs*

[Ayepecks]

well i use to check out the gamespy command and conquer page and they said westwood was purchased right after renagade was made owell not important

someone please make a cnc game lol :yes: :p

http://money.cnn.com/1998/08/17/life/q_ea/

Looks like it was about 6 years ago (to the month).

[Ayepecks]

They are meant to be seperate storylines, some of what you say makes sense, but on the original C&C nod comes to power via the poor countires of africa and the wartorn Middle east. I very clearly remember and cherish the original game, and its FMVs....

Seems to be you invented a storyline based around the events after the fact.

Your making bold conclusions jumping from RA2 > GDI, there was never any storyline that mentioned after the defeat of Russia for a second time they merged into one power to fight terrorism.

As I said some of what you said makes sense, but alot doesnt, youve added in parts of your on imagination to the storyline as near as I can tell. As I said seems like your creating a storyline to bend into what information available, not what actually is.

In any event, this whole thing was sparked off by one guy, who worked on the prototype version of Twilight. I will bet my membership at neowin, that we see C&C Twilight in the next 2 years. (Or at least it will be on the radar by then)

There is no way EA would be so blind as to turn their back on this franchise, I would venture they are letting it simmer and build up excitement for a ground breaking revival of the game, much the same as Blizzard has consistently avoided any information on a StarCraft 2 (RTS Starcraft not the upcomming Action one). They know there will always be a market of devoted fans who love the game, they let them simmer, new teens enter the market, not like the old fans are going anywhere.

Personally I hope EA take their time with C&C Tiberian Twilight, because quite frankly Tiberian Sun was kinda dissapointing, and the whole storyline now rests of Tiberian Twilight, so it would be a massive project.

Not sure who you're talking to, but I am not making up my own ideas about the storyline. The fact is that Red Alert was a prequel to Tiberian Dawn. Go back and look at the news articles when it was announced. It's fact, not assumption :) If you've seen the Soviet ending to Red Alert you should know for a fact I'm right :)

Red Alert 2's storyline isn't in the Command & Conquer storyline. It was basically made for money, not story. It's not involved in the Red Alert, Tiberian Dawn (Command & Conquer), Tiberian Sun storyline -- just like Generals wasn't.

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

i cannot belive the made generals instead

[aldo]

Sorry, yes. RA2 wasn't part of it. I thought I read it was, but it wasn't.

But, that looked awesome from the video. Hopefully they'll get a game out which bridges between RA and C&C.

[Ayepecks]

http://cncden.com/index.php?subaction=show...t_from=&ucat=6&

*cough* That first pic look framiliar to anyone? ;) *cough*

[aldo]

http://cncden.com/index.php?subaction=show...t_from=&ucat=6&

*cough* That first pic look framiliar to anyone? ;) *cough*

ARaraerarghh!! no! This looks horrible!

I don't want a damn space fighting game - aliens are just so boring thanks to AVP, HL2, D3 and others. I want the original C&C3 storyline :'(.

[paganinio]

EA bought Westwood a long time ago. Before Tiberian Sun was even released. I think it was right around the time Red Alert was released, not positive, though. But they've owned them a lot longer than 6 years.

Official information:

C&C was published by VIRGIN INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT

C&C:Red Alert was published by WESTWOOD STUDIOS

C&C:Tiberian Sun was published by EA

according to this, we can know the time EA bought Westwood should be between RA(Red Alert) and TS(Tiberian Sun)

[Xer34]

I liked the original storyline a lot. Continuing with that instead of generals would have been good. :( Though RA2 was great, even though it deviated from the original storyline. I dunno.. I still think no C&C will beat RA2.. but thats just me..

[bush]

there haven't been anything better thatn cc red alert : yuri's revenge. waiting for the 3rd cc :rofl:

[T-Grey]

Enough of saying RA and C&C are separate! obviously none of you have paid attention to the actual story :angry:

you want proof? Here's like 10 pages worth: http://db.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/fil...nquer_story.txt

the entire C&C story laid out clearly. It's one big storyline, Generals fits in between the two franchises, and twilight comes after everything. China is even tied in.

Known Facts about The Brotherhood Of Nod -

Ratified - Exact date unknown. The religion proclaimed itself in the new world around

the late 19th century. Some exaggerated reports place its foundation

around the year 1800 B.C. Known as "Sha Ae Sheer" or "Path Of Nod" among

a number of traditional African tribes.

Ideology - To unite third-world nations under a pseudo-religious political platform

with imperialist tendencies. In actuallity it is a highly aggressive and

popular neo-fascist anti-west movement vying for total domination of the

world's peoples and resources. Operates under the popular mantra "Brother-

hood, Unity, Peace". The religious viewpoints of The Brotherhood Of Nod

focuss on an alledged Tiberian future for humanity, in which all followers

of Kane shall recieve "Divination" and flourish in every imaginable aspect.

Current Religious Patriach - The Brotherhood Of Nod operates under the leadership of

a mysterious, charismatic and highly dangerous person

known only as "Kane", whose IQ is believed to be over a

196. No forms of civil registration or birthcertificats

whatsoever have been found about him by neither Interpol

nor any other international investigation services. Be-

lieved to be a living Messiah and the son of Adam by a

great number of his followers, nothing is truly known

about Kane's origins or past.

Base of Operations - Globalized, command posts identified at Kuantan, Malaysia; some-

where in Ar-Rub'al-Khali, Saudi Arabia; Tokyo, Japan; Caen, France.

Main headquarters was located at the end of The First Tiberium War

in the vicinity of Sarajevo, Bosnia.

Military Strength - Initially considered to be a small terrorist organisation, a scandal

involving US and European defense contractors confirms beliefs that

The Brotherhood Of Nod is well equipped and has a large arsenal of

land, sea, and aerial military operations as well as highly advanced

technology of which is unknown where Nod derived it from.

Economic Strength - Considerable assets believed to be in excess of US $255.2 billion,

based on audits of seized financial records (see CIA docket 3231.54-

776 FIA). Economic strength stems from near-monopoly of Tiberium

harvesting in the late 20th century as well as cult-like money sei-

zure and money laundering with Russian, Cuban, Columbian and various

other maffia Cartels.

Political Strength - Believed to be the sole backers of the Fist of Allah party in Jordan

(52%); United We Stand America party in the US 12%); Albion First!

party in the UK (25+%), among others. (See Brooking Institution

publication A42962-94 for full discloser.)

Affiliations - Irish Republican Party; various Islamic Jihad groupations; Khmer Rouge;

U.S.S.R.; the People's Republic Of China; others. (See article: Brother-

hood of Nod Splinter Groups and Afffiliations.)

See Also - Mobius, Dr. R.H. (deceased); terrorist activities; United Nations Global

Defense Act; Report of World Energy Radical Redistribution; US Congressional

Report, 1994; Death of Kane Investigation Committee.

(I'm a little obsessed with C&C :blush: )

Edited August 23, 2004 by T-Grey

[Osiris]

BULLL ****^^^!!!

General is not ****ing tied into the C&C storyline, dont even try to bloody tie it in, look at you little fan boy running around trying to plot a story based on completely seperate facts. God ive played all these games, and yes there may be a subplot with C&C:RA, but that doesnt influence the overall storyline.

Where are you pulling this info from? because ive got all the manuals from the games here, I got all the bloody games themselves, perhaps im missing 1000 ingame videos to fill me in on your cadre of made up facts. Whats your source for this? because short of being on the bloody EA C&C websites, I dont believe a dolup on what youve made up there.

Geez trying to work Generals into now that is a crackup. Do we want proof? yeah we want proof but having it up as a textfile hosted on someone bums webpage doesnt make this proof, so much speculation its not funny, geez let it go. You might have a victory with the whole Soviet thing is RA tieing into the plot. But geez trying to say Generals falls in there as well, and that all the games are tied together, let it go and stop making up ****.

****postscript

its all irralevent anyway, we all remember the alien storyline developing in Tiberium Sun, I will bet my left nutsack, that C&C 3: Tiberian Twilight, will be another earth v the aliens type thing, the writing is on the wall people. This will enable the franchise to finish with a bang.