Digitaholic Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Tonight I was bored so I decided to catch a little of the Olympics on TV. So I watch Lao Lishi, a diver for the China team, and it looked like she wasn't performing the best and all. But then I hear a woman commentator criticizing her saying she didn't perform her diving really well because of her flat feet. And then she says that it's a flaw or something that Chinese people have because of that. So I guess it's because of that, that Chinese divers can't get that extra 'umph' when jumping off the diving board eh? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ootput Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Tonight I was bored so I decided to catch a little of the Olympics on TV. So I watch Lao Lishi, a diver for the China team, and it looked like she wasn't performing the best and all. But then I hear a woman commentator criticizing her saying she didn't perform her diving really well because of her flat feet. And then she says that it's a flaw or something that Chinese people have because of that. So I guess it's because of that, that Chinese divers can't get that extra 'umph' when jumping off the diving board eh? Channel? Commentator? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kame Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 So how is it a racist comment to state that the chinese have flat feet preventing them from performing as well? Seems like just an observation to me... :rolleyes: :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitaholic Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 So kame, u think saying that all chinese has flatfeet is right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrokat Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 ROFL .... I read that entirely wrong. I thought this was refering to asian drivers .... :blush: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ootput Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 So how is it a racist comment to state that the chinese have flat feet preventing them from performing as well? :rolleyes: :huh: It's a baseless claim; a commentator should know better. Their Gymnastics routine shines some light on the topic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanGreal Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 So kame, u think saying that all chinese has flatfeet is right? I have no idea what kind of feet chinese people have, but I fail to see the problem if it is true. There is a difference between stereotyping someones personality by nationality/race and make factual statements about their ethnic traits. It is no different than saying all chinese people have slanted eyes or golden skin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG11489 Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 So how is it a racist comment to state that the chinese have flat feet preventing them from performing as well?Seems like just an observation to me... :rolleyes: :huh: i am chinese and I take that offensly :crazy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
panicswitched Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 seems more of a stupid thing to say then racist Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayon Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 same lol, reading the title i was thinking of some judge in court commenting on a female chinese driver haahahah Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Um, I don't know if it's true or not, but it may be. You make find it offensive, but there's a lot of natural advantages or disadvantages that differnet races have over one another. Of course we're all people, though, if that's what you mean -- group hug? Sorry... just had to. What's with you and all the racist comments, though? Are you on some sort of goal to prove that the world is racist? But, the bottom line is was it the right thing to say -- probably not. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, you're going to get slammed by some ethnic group no matter what you say. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK1150 Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 even though it probably was supposed to just be an observation, things like that shouldn't be mentioned in public like that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaos34 Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Nothing's wrong with that, it's a comment on physical features. It's like saying a certain ethnicity tends to be tall. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorpheux Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 I have no idea what kind of feet chinese people have, but I fail to see the problem if it is true. There is a difference between stereotyping someones personality by nationality/race and make factual statements about their ethnic traits. It is no different than saying all chinese people have slanted eyes or golden skin. agreed. however, the thing in this situation is this: assuming most chinese people have somewhat flatter feet than the majority of the rest of the population (which i don't know for a fact, but i'll just assume it for this, for that fact alone should not be offensive to anybody...i mean, maybe having flat feet is cool to some people, i dont know), the problem is that this person apparently linked this supposed fact to an offensive personal opinion, thus being somewhat racist. but i also agree with twyst3d, it's more stupid than anything else Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Nothing's wrong with that, it's a comment on physical features. It's like saying a certain ethnicity tends to be tall. Exaclty. I mean, would anyone here want to crucify me for saying that Asians are statistically proven to generally be shorter than most other ethnicities? Sure, but it's still a fact. There's physical features that help and don't help every ethnicity. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitaholic Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 Um, I don't know if it's true or not, but it may be. You make find it offensive, but there's a lot of natural advantages or disadvantages that differnet races have over one another. Of course we're all people, though, if that's what you mean -- group hug?Sorry... just had to. What's with you and all the racist comments, though? Are you on some sort of goal to prove that the world is racist? But, the bottom line is was it the right thing to say -- probably not. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, you're going to get slammed by some ethnic group no matter what you say. how am i being racist? :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 I said you're NOT being racist... you're trying to STOP racism and taking it a bit too far and stretching the limits of what you can consider racism. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ootput Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Funnily enough, the Womens Chinese Diving team seem to be doing exceptionally well. I guess the rest of the worlds population have even flatter feet :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmG Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 same lol, reading the title i was thinking of some judge in court commenting on a female chinese driver haahahah me too hahaha Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob_ Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 (edited) <<snipped>> ^ i dont feel my comment is racist/hateful because its freedom of speach/though/mind :o Which you don't have here. --BOOG Edited August 24, 2004 by BOOGSoftball Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 <<snipped>> Maybe it's just me, but I'm confused by what you mean... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorpheux Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 (edited) Exaclty.I mean, would anyone here want to crucify me for saying that Asians are statistically proven to generally be shorter than most other ethnicities? Sure, but it's still a fact. There's physical features that help and don't help every ethnicity. you guys are missing the point. yes, you're right when you say it's just a physical trait (again, assuming if it is true which i dont know for sure). but i think the problem is with the fact that this physical trait of this ethnicity was linked to a negative characteristic (diving badly) and therefore it can be insulting to the chinise. for example, dogs are hairy. i state that dogs are hairy and that is just a fact and not offensive or anything. but if i say that dogs are smelly because they're hairy, well then that is offensive to dogs. not the fact that they're hairy, but the fact that i'm saying they're smelly. (dogs probably enjoy being smelly than anything else, but i hope you get my point.... :rolleyes: ) EDIT: i fixed the driving to diving, happy people? i'm glad you had a nice laugh over it :rolleyes: Edited August 24, 2004 by Fedorpheux Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob_ Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Maybe it's just me, but I'm confused by what you mean... <<snipped>> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahad Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 good thing you missed the one before.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ootput Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 a negative characteristic (driving badly) :rofl: You guys crack me up Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/207914-racist-judge-comments-chinese-female-diver/#findComment-584420486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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