nickg78 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 This must be the first ISP in Europe that blocks file sharing programs. There are lots of complaints from Forthnet's customers in Greece, who can't use Kazaa or Kazaa Lite. The famous file sharing program stays in "Connecting" status forever, although there is no problem when somebody uses any other Internet Provider. It seems that port 1214 has been blocked by Forthnet and, as a result, Kazaa has become useless. I hope this policy won't be adopted by other ISPs, else we are going to have a really big problem... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorSA Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Then the consumers must change to a different ISP ... Let the people dictate !!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584456834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickWorm Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 nickg78 said: This must be the first ISP in Europe that blocks file sharing programs. There are lots of complaints from Forthnet's customers in Greece, who can't use Kazaa or Kazaa Lite. The famous file sharing program stays in "Connecting" status forever, although there is no problem when somebody uses any other Internet Provider. It seems that port 1214 has been blocked by Forthnet and, as a result, Kazaa has become useless. I hope this policy won't be adopted by other ISPs, else we are going to have a really big problem... Actually Cytanet in Cyprus - even though it doesn't block P2P clients - allows only downloads in very low download speeds. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584456887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Ok that's horrible news... The p2p revolution won't stop though!!! Stay out of ForthNET!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584456959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Umm surely you can just change the port, most of the good p2p programs let you specify a port, and unless ISPs are going to block ALL ports then its pretty much impossible to stop :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584456984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chconline Veteran Posted August 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 29, 2004 well then all isps should block all progams or make it download the speed of dialup lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverity Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 die die die! :angry: leave p2p be Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairon Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 You little music pirates, you. Hurray for an ISP taking action against this! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
csabo2 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 ISP's dont know what theyre doing. you can block a specific Application, without blocking the port. and k++ tunnels through port 80 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chconline Veteran Posted August 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 29, 2004 whatever jsut do wahtever to blcok hose programs and tell those people internet is not for doing stuff like those Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varsity Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Oh dear, no more (or less, anyway) pirate music for people in Greece. :cry: Good for Forthnet! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tktino Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Lenin said: Ok that's horrible news...The p2p revolution won't stop though!!! Stay out of ForthNET!!! Its more like Ending. p2p users are moving on to more app that can hide there ip. Like edonkey. But people dont understand that you can still get ip off that. Plus imesh isnt the solution. Its Irc Or Buy the dang software. Sorry for anymistakes. And dont point them out. :D thx Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impy. Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 csabo2 said: ISP's dont know what theyre doing. you can block a specific Application, without blocking the port. and k++ tunnels through port 80 how can they do this please? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varsity Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Impy. said: how can they do this please? First Greek blockee! ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impy. Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Varsity said: First Greek blockee! ;) heh :) Im in the uk, Im just interested that someone posts they can block an app without blocking ports. This would imply that an ISP can tell what applications (or at least those that access the network) you are running. I dont think they can do this, but if the person posting could explain how they can I would be interested to know.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted August 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 29, 2004 Forthnet ISP will only block P2P applications used by the most basic users. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyout Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 I honestlly get the Impression that Comcast blocks popular filesharing ports... i mean my speeds in BT suck, my speeds in ed2k, shareaza, basically suck, and i have ports fowarded....its kind of hard to figure out what port that i could possiblly use without getting limited bandwidth for those programs/ports... I would hate for them to **** over a legitiment busness due to trying to protect the RIAA/MPAA interests..... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Quote Im in the uk, Im just interested that someone posts they can block an app without blocking ports.This would imply that an ISP can tell what applications (or at least those that access the network) you are running. I dont think they can do this, but if the person posting could explain how they can I would be interested to know.... Isn't that something to do with packetshaping? I thought I read that somewhere. NEway, this is very irritating. Linux iso's are most easily available on P2P programs, and when they are reaching 4GB+ it's not hard to see why. In the UK there have been a string of ISP's now imposing 2-30GB/month download limits - there are still some ISP's that advertise about being unlimited though (BullDog, and even enough, AOL). It's only logical for ISP's though... increase the speed at which users can download, then limit the amount they can download. They can then claim a faster service while the same amount of data is being transferred for them. Blocking P2P programs is the [slightly] lesser problem though - imposing download caps is more irritating. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/210558-forthnet-isp-in-greece-blocks-p2p-programs/#findComment-584457316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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