Southern Patriot Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 (edited) Does anyone here know for sure what the maximum CPU supported by the 810 chipset is? I know it is a socket 370, which limits it to PIII's or older style Celerons obviously. The problem I am having is that I'm finding conflicting information on various web sites. Some say that the 810 only supports Celerons, but some say it supports PIII's too. None of the sites I've found have a definative answer for the speed ranges it supports (not even Intel's page!). Dell's tech support info for this model doesn't say what speeds it supports either (which isn't surprising, since they typically don't update that info for models this old). I'm hoping it will support a 1.3Ghz Celeron (the fastest one that I know of for socket 370), as it currently only has a 600Mhz Celeron. edit: actually, I found out that the fastest socket 370 Celeron is 1.4Ghz, but I'm still not sure if this chipset supports it. Edited August 31, 2004 by roadwarrior Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted August 31, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 31, 2004 Off the top of my head, I think there were some revision of the i810 that supported Tualatin but they are a minority. Most i810 boards would only support up to the 1GHz Pentium III Coppermine CPU (not the 'A' model). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584466879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted August 31, 2004 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 Thanks. I found some other documentation that seems to confirm what you just said as well. Only Coppermine CPU's, no Tulatin. If I recall correctly, the fastest Coppermine Celeron was actually 1.1Ghz (I used to have one a while back), so I guess I'll look for one of those (they are FAR cheaper than the 1Ghz PIII). I'm looking for the fastest CPU for this machine without breaking the bank (I only have about $40 invested in the computer as it is). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584466953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Player Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 The P3 would be alot better :( I hate celerons :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584466982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 celerons are getting better you know, also the p2 chips were meant to be celerons but they were better than the p2's so they started using celerons as p2 chips Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584467035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted August 31, 2004 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 Gary_Player said: The P3 would be alot better :( I hate celerons :no: The PIII also costs about 3X as much. However, I have found out that a $10 adapter will allow me to use the Tualatin Celerons in this computer, so 1.4Ghz will actually work! :woot: :D Those Celerons have the same size cache as the same speed PIII, only the FSB is a little lower (100Mhz vs. 133Mhz), but my motherboard only supports 100Mhz FSB anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584467040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhalishousboy Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 I have an Intel i845 Dell Dimension 4300.... where would I find info on upgrading my processor with the largest one I can? i have a 1.6 P4 right now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584467054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted August 31, 2004 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 offroadaaron said: celerons are getting better you know, also the p2 chips were meant to be celerons but they were better than the p2's so they started using celerons as p2 chips From some of the benchmarks I've seen, the 1.3-1.4Ghz Tualatin Celerons pretty much smoked the first P4 based Celerons (the ones under 2.0Ghz or so). I used to have a 1.7Ghz P4 Celeron, and some days I swear my old 1Ghz Celeron was faster!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584467057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted August 31, 2004 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 cashbo said: I have an Intel i845 Dell Dimension 4300.... where would I find info on upgrading my processor with the largest one I can? i have a 1.6 P4 right now. That's similar to the 4500 I used to have (same chipset), and I believe the fastest that it would support was either 2.2 or 2.4Ghz. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584467067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argote Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 P3 style celeron didnt suck ass like current ones do (enve the "celeronD") Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584467265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted August 31, 2004 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 ArtOf_War said: P3 style celeron didnt suck ass like current ones do (enve the "celeronD") Exactly. There was actually very little difference between a 1.2Ghz Celeron and a 1.2Ghz PIII (other than the price). The extra 33Mhz on the FSB didn't really help matters all that much, considering the speed of RAM that was available and the chipsets used. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584468266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stncttr908 Veteran Posted August 31, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 31, 2004 cashbo said: I have an Intel i845 Dell Dimension 4300.... where would I find info on upgrading my processor with the largest one I can? i have a 1.6 P4 right now. P4's with a 400MHz FSB go up to 2.6GHz, so I'd imagine that's your limit. If it doesn't support it, Dell might offer a BIOS update for the computer, although they usually reserve this for bugs and not for giving the customer more. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584468527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptiPlex Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 (edited) You got anything older than a revision 3 mobo you really can't upgrade. IIRC 600MHz Celeron with the 66MHz FSB CPU is the max for revision 2 and older GX100 mobos. GX100 cannot utilitize Tualatin CPUs. EDIT :ninja: Quote FYI, we've put a 1.1 GHz Pentium-III "Coppermine" CPU in our GX100, and it works fine.? The bus speed of this CPU is 100 MHz, so it runs at a full 1.1 GHz on the 810 chipset motherboard. Edited August 31, 2004 by OptiPlex Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584469168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptiPlex Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 cashbo said: I have an Intel i845 Dell Dimension 4300.... where would I find info on upgrading my processor with the largest one I can? i have a 1.6 P4 right now. I found this for the 4300: Upgradability for 4300/4300S - Socket 478 - Willamette, 400 MHz bus For 4500 Upgradability for 4500S/4500C/4500 - Socket 478 - Willamette, Northwood, 400 or 533 MHz bus Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584469201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhalishousboy Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 so that means my machine has a 400MHz bus? where can i find the info on buying processors? btw, thanks for your help! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584469519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptiPlex Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 cashbo said: so that means my machine has a 400MHz bus? where can i find the info on buying processors? btw, thanks for your help! Williamettes are the 1st gen P4's IIRC so those will be hard to find ... if you do find them they'll be pricey IMO :x :$ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584469558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted September 3, 2004 Author Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) OptiPlex said: You got anything older than a revision 3 mobo you really can't upgrade. IIRC 600MHz Celeron with the 66MHz FSB CPU is the max for revision 2 and older GX100 mobos.GX100 cannot utilitize Tualatin CPUs. EDIT :ninja: Natively, no, they can't use a Tualatin, but with one of the Coppermine-to-Tualatin adapters, they are reportedly able to. I'll know for sure next week when I get my 1.4Ghz Celeron and adapter. If not, it will be back on eBay. edit: Where on the motherboard should I look for the revision number? The only revision sticker I see appears to be the BIOS revision, because it says "Revision A03" which was the BIOS version on it when I got it (since upgraded to A10). Edited September 3, 2004 by roadwarrior Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/211228-maximum-cpu-for-an-intel-810-chipset/#findComment-584490836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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