DoNuTs Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 the player looks like ****, why would anyone want this player anyway. there are so many better players out there ....sigh Yes, that's the problem ... too many! I like this Media player, it fits all my needs! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584485131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus- Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 found out this and put it in the other thread w00t got msn music icon working closed wmp10 cleared my cache came here saw the thread with the butterfly urls. (in firefox) loaded up the icon url in ie (then saw the long strip of butterflys in ie) loaded up wmp10 icon works no red x Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584485296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewz2001 Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 a very good point has been made several times in this thread and has been virtually ignored throughout... is it possible to slipstream wmp10 into the windows installation? so you could just clean install with wmp10 included... ?? well it's obviously possible, but how? :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584485337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2004 Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 ok this is a big if but would you do it like this ?? in SVCPACK.INF add CODE "mp10setup.exe /Q:A /R:N /c:"setup_wm.exe /Q /R:N /NoPID /DisallowSystemRestore /P:#e"" and have mp10setup.exe be in your SVCPACK directory. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584485386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1 Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 found out this and put it in the other thread w00t got msn music icon working closed wmp10 cleared my cache came here saw the thread with the butterfly urls. (in firefox) loaded up the icon url in ie (then saw the long strip of butterflys in ie) loaded up wmp10 icon works no red x and what icon url is that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584485404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_onion Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 i have a problem i am using 10 but when i use the online stores button it says there are no online store in your area even though msn music works in the UK Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584485531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRambo Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 No thats not it.. i dont have the nero plugin even installed...sorry for the late replyIm still having this issue.. click the little arrow beside and click the napster thing, then go back to what you where doing :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584485540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman45654 Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 I have updated the Windows Server 2003 fix. Now the playlist are properly installed. I have included a batch file to make things easier and less likely to fail. Just extract the wmp10 exe file and the wins2k3.zip file into a folder and run setup.bat. More detailed instructoins are in the zip file. If you have tried using the first fix and it failed, leaving you with Wmp9 running this should fix it :) WinS2k3Fix.zip Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584485643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4ever Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 To install it via svcpack.inf you should do it this way: extract the wmp10.exe file to any folder. archive all the files that were extracted in the folder using winrar (Compression Method = Best, Create SFX Archive, Create Solid Archive) in the comments tab put this in: ;The comment below contains SFX script commands Setup=setup_wm.exe /DisallowSystemRestore /Q:A /R:N TempMode Silent=2 Overwrite=1 thats it. now just put the file in your 1386/update folder (and update your svcpack.inf by justadding wmp10.exe) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584485810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman45654 Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 and what icon url is that? http://beta.music.msn.com/client/msnlogo.png http://beta.music.msn.com/client/msnsmall.png Those are the url's to the images that are supposed to be where the red x is. The settings are in the registry in the following two places. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Services\MSNMusic HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\services\MSNMusic Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584488699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Anybody have an answer yet about what MP3 codec Microsoft is using in their WMP 10 final? What company/brand? If you do, please post. I'm still trying to figure it out. Thanks, BK Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584488743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman45654 Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Anybody have an answer yet about what MP3 codec Microsoft is using in their WMP 10 final?? What company/brand?? If you do, please post.? I'm still trying to figure it out.Thanks, BK Wmp10 uses the Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional) and supports all bitrates, mono and stereo. Pretty sweet move :) :) To bad I've already switched to wma lol. If you extract the wmp10 installer and have a look in l3codecp.acm (notepad will do fine) you will see the above info towards the top of the file. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584488781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Wmp10 uses the Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (professional) and supports all bitrates, mono and stereo. Pretty sweet move MS :) To bad I've already switched to wma lol. If you extract the wmp10 installer and have a look in l3codecp.acm (notepad will do fine) you will see the above info towards the top of the file. So this is the same Fast Fraunhofer codec that Music Match has used for a long time, right? Guess that makes perfect sense to me, given the previously close relationship between Music Match and Microsoft. I am a fan of that Fast Fraunhofer at 160 bit. (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584488803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman45654 Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) I can't say for sure. I never did like MM and I haven't used it in years. I do know that the Fraunhofer Pro Codec cost some money so I doubt the free version of MM would support it. The pay version of MM very well may support it (guessing). I tried searching www.musicmatch.com but their site is about worthless :( EDIT: I did a little more searching and found this MusicMatch Jukebox - http://www.musicmatch.com/ - they have been publishing a free version for a long time. They had some buggy versions around v5.x and v6.0, but versions later than 6.1 use a non-buggy version of the Fastenc CODEC. http://www.mp3-faq.org/tips/encoders.html So it looks like Wmp10 uses a different (better) codec. Edited September 3, 2004 by sandman45654 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584488838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxsaurav Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 To install it via svcpack.inf you should do it this way:extract the wmp10.exe file to any folder. archive all the files that were extracted in the folder using winrar (Compression Method = Best, Create SFX Archive, Create Solid Archive) in the comments tab put this in: ;The comment below contains SFX script commands Setup=setup_wm.exe /DisallowSystemRestore /Q:A /R:N TempMode Silent=2 Overwrite=1 thats it. now just put the file in your 1386/update folder (and update your svcpack.inf by justadding wmp10.exe) I m confused, if I do it upon installaing Windows XP SP2 slipstreamed it will automatically install WMP10, after disabling System restore, rite ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584488876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxsaurav Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I have made a slipstreamed ISO of Windows XP with SP2, via autostreamer, it is not an unattended installation, how can I add this string & mp10.exe to it, One more thing, suppose I m reinstallaing WIndows, then when during the setup, insted of installaing WMP9 included in SP2 it will install MP10, or will it install WMP9 & then start this string to install wmp10 over it, if this is so then I would go for manual install after Windows installation I found the i386\update folder, but where is svcpack.inf, also can I install mp10 with windows with an attended installation Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584488911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman45654 Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 or will it install WMP9 & then start this string to install wmp10 over it, That's exactly what it does. It's quicker but not really any cleaner. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584488936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I can't say for sure. I never did like MM and I haven't used it in years. I do know that the Fraunhofer Pro Codec cost some money so I doubt the free version of MM would support it. The pay version of MM very well may support it (guessing). I tried searching www.musicmatch.com but their site is about worthless :(EDIT: I did a little more searching and found this MusicMatch Jukebox - http://www.musicmatch.com/ - they have been publishing a free version for a long time. They had some buggy versions around v5.x and v6.0, but versions later than 6.1 use a non-buggy version of the Fastenc CODEC. http://www.mp3-faq.org/tips/encoders.html So it looks like Wmp10 uses a different (better) codec. Cool. Thanks for the info. Looks like the Fast Fraunhofer is pretty much the same, with minor tweaks in both apps, so I think I know about what to expect. Appreciate the links. (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584489018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman45654 Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Cool. Thanks for the info. Looks like the Fast Fraunhofer is pretty much the same, with minor tweaks in both apps, so I think I know about what to expect.Appreciate the links. (Y) Not a problem, glad I could help :) OK I'm bored so on with my Wmp10 conspiracy theory :woot: It sure is nice of MS to include this codec for free. Seeing how they have to pay for it. But why would they do something like that. When was the last time MS give something away for free that they didn't create? Hmm... Lets see, Wmp10 has become a free, high quality cd ripping/burning multimedia app. No need to buy Winamp (or similar app) for audio burning features anymore. Unless you just want to. I believe MS didn't include Wmp10 in XpSp2 for a reason (the EU ruling for starters) :yes:. Microsoft can't make you install Wmp10 (via installing sp2) without the possibility of getting into more trouble down the road. How would it look if MS forced a new media player that just happened to advertise their new music store. That wouldn't look too good on their part. They can however give you Wmp10 for free (after you download it yourself). Nothing wrong with that right? Free is good, lots of people love free stuff. The thing is that anyone that checks out Wmp10 is going to read about their new music store. Yet, at the same time anyone that trys the new music store is going to read about Wmp10. The end result is that MS now has two products advertising each other quite well. All without Microsoft forcing anyone to do anything. I may be wrong but it makes sense to me. Anyone think I'm on to something, or just on something LOL. OK I think its time for me to go to bed before I hurt myself :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584489297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Anyone know how I can fix this error? I just downloaded this from the Microsoft website not 10 minutes ago. I installed it on a system that I had just installed Windows XP SP2 and this is annoying me :woot: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584489370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotix Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 How's how I fixed that stupid ass Red X bug or whatever is. 1) Shut down WMP and Closed IE. 2) Cleared the cache & offline files via the Internet Options Control Panel 3) Opened up IE 4) Copied this http://beta.music.msn.com/client/msnlogo.png into the Address bar 5) Copied this http://beta.music.msn.com/client/msnsmall.png into the Address bar 6) Closed IE 7) Opened up WMP 8) Works for me now 9) I hope when I clear my cache it doesn't get messed up again but I haven't touched it since Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584489404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_onion Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 would someone help me please why cant i acess any music store functions in the Uk not even napster whats wrong? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584489897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainashi Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 would someone help me please why cant i acess any music store functions in the Uk not even napster whats wrong? i think it's because the music stores are us only. :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584489921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 How's how I fixed that stupid ass Red X bug or whatever is.1) Shut down WMP and Closed IE. 2) Cleared the cache & offline files via the Internet Options Control Panel 3) Opened up IE 4) Copied this http://beta.music.msn.com/client/msnlogo.png into the Address bar 5) Copied this http://beta.music.msn.com/client/msnsmall.png into the Address bar 6) Closed IE 7) Opened up WMP 8) Works for me now 9) I hope when I clear my cache it doesn't get messed up again but I haven't touched it since Seems to work for me... but I have my system to clear cache when I close my browser so I have to do this everytime I want to open WMP10 :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584489938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_onion Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsme...es/default.aspx no they are not US only Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/212025-i-think-i-have-wmp-10-final/page/15/#findComment-584490103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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