jerry Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 APPLE ANNOUNCED its new range of LCD displays over a month ago now, and have begun shipping the 20-inch and 23-inch displays in volume. There are a fair few at the Apple store here in sunny SanFran, and also down the road at CompUSA. Beautiful they are too. Those friendly CompUSA fellas spun us an interesting yarn, however, about the complete lack of 30-inch displays. If you're an Apple follower, you'll know that the 30-inch is the flagship display to accompany its G5 range of machines. Since it's running at such a huge resolution, 2560x1600, the display requires a dedicated graphics card - the GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL card, with dual DVI outputs to connect to the same screen. Unfortunately, it seems, Nvidia just can't produce these. Our sources told us that whilst Apple is raring to go, Nvidia hasn't got the cards working yet. With 6800 Ultras in short supply on the PC, and the marketing machine telling everyone to buy 6800GTs, this special edition 6800 Ultra must be a niche of a niche of a niche - and possibly even less viable to produce. The board, which you can see at the Apple website, looks monstrously huge - we are talking Voodoo 5 6000 size here. It ain't cheap, and it don't appear to be easy. Apple is well known for flirting with both graphics cards giants - its laptop range uses both ATI and Nvidia chips. If Nvidia can't deliver its end of the deal soon, it's unlikely it will get another stab at leading Apple technology for a while. Is Nvidia over-stretching itself, or is Apple just awkward to the core? http://theinquirer.net/?article=18300 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted September 7, 2004 Veteran Share Posted September 7, 2004 Nvidia hasn't got the cards working yet. Stone me. I'm not really a fanboy, but no component producer should announce a product that doesn't work. Nice move nVidia. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584515396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyout Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 funny i saw the 30-inch displays yesterday at compusa.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584515668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev0| Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 like ATI even has the technology to do it :NOT: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584515692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcdShdw Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Stone me. I'm not really a fanboy, but no component producer should announce a product that doesn't work. Nice move nVidia. lmao "not working yet" ahahaha Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584515700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 like ATI even has the technology to do it :NOT: the stench of fanboy just flooded my nostrils :x Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584515711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted September 7, 2004 Veteran Share Posted September 7, 2004 like ATI even has the technology to do it :NOT: That was so uncalled for. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584515712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 That was so uncalled for. agreed. but when you think about it, his post is quite ironic... saying ati doesn't have the tech to do it, but neither does nvidia apparently :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584515736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted September 7, 2004 Author Share Posted September 7, 2004 saying ati doesn't have the tech to do it, but neither does nvidia apparently :laugh: Was about to say the same. :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584515748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I bet XGI has the technology (*giggle*) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584515922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjmUK Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 It's not Nvidia's fault, all the pressure from Apple - Apple should of waited for a working model before releasing it. Patience is a virtue. No doubt Nvidia will send over cards as soon as they're ready, why have a faulty card by rushing it when they can take their time and get it right. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted September 7, 2004 Author Share Posted September 7, 2004 It's not Nvidia's fault, all the pressure from Apple - Apple should of waited for a working model before releasing it. Patience is a virtue. *Looks at your avatar, backs down* :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 How is it that the 30 inch display requires so much juice and 2 dvi ports. I was in compusa the other day and they had a Media Center comp with a 50 inch plasma display which u could run either 1 dvi or 1 vga off of it. It was 3.06 ghz and had 1gb of ram Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 *Looks at your avatar, backs down* :whistle: < does the same. then reads the second line of your sig :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 How is it that the 30 inch display requires so much juice and 2 dvi ports. I was in compusa the other day and they had a Media Center comp with a 50 inch plasma display which u could run either 1 dvi or 1 vga off of it. It was 3.06 ghz and had 1gb of ram this time, size doesn't matter. it's how you use it :laugh: the apple display runs at 2560x1600 pixels. the 50" plasma at compusa was running in a much lower res, though i can't give you an exact number, it certainly wasn't as high as apple's. some of the largest monitors today only run at 1920x1200, so apple just "raised the bar" for regular displays, if you will. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
necrosis Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 :alien: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thuggers Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 i tossed my nvidia card out my g5 before you could say ATI Radeon 9800 G5 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted September 7, 2004 Author Share Posted September 7, 2004 < does the same.then reads the second line of your sig :whistle: lol why just the second line ? I've got 2 Nvidia threads & 2 ATi threads in my sig, isnt it balanced ? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 lol why just the second line ? I've got 2 Nvidia threads & 2 ATi threads in my sig, isnt it balanced ? :p my bad, i should have been more specific. i meant djmuk's sig, how it says "threads to avoid: nvidia vs. ati" or whatever. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted September 7, 2004 Author Share Posted September 7, 2004 No prob. ;) This is the PC version of the card, Mac version is longer. :D taken from here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogan Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) < does the same.then reads the second line of your sig :whistle: No wonder you don't like people bashing on ATI.. You should take a look at the second line of your sig first :rolleyes: Edited September 7, 2004 by Dogan Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjmUK Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Okay okay, I admit (via Avatar) that I'm an Nvidia fanboy. We're all fanboys/girls in one way or another. True ATi vs Nvidia is my sig...however, this isn't an ATi vs Nvidia thread (for a change). Just hope Apple & Nvidia sort this out quickly otherwise Apple will get half of the complaints and Nvidia will get the other half...this isn't good for Nvidia agreed, so fingers crossed. The long card for the Mac reminds me of the Voodoo cards being 12" long. This was just before 3DFX was bought out. P.S. Looks like we all have preferences within our signatures :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584516994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomn Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 How is it that the 30 inch display requires so much juice and 2 dvi ports. I was in compusa the other day and they had a Media Center comp with a 50 inch plasma display which u could run either 1 dvi or 1 vga off of it. It was 3.06 ghz and had 1gb of ram Simple, It doesnt. The monitor only uses one connector, and the technology used in each connector is called "dual-link", which is just a really high bandwith DVI. Calling a technology for a single connector "dual link" is definetly confusing, but im not sure who coined the term Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584517011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) like ATI even has the technology to do it :NOT: hahhhahahahahhaah....dude ATI does have the technology and don't go all ballistic on us here because your card doesn't work right, or that the fact show that NVidia does a ****ty job producing the cards. FYI All-in-Wonder X800XT is coming out real soon and they have most of the GL series of cards switched to X800 chip. I know a lot of people who have X800XT PE (so do I). I don't really care about NVidia VS ATI talk, I've owned ATI and I love their cards, but don't consider myself a fanboy (too old), but I just get upset with moronic statements like that. How old are you? 10? 12? ATI has been on the market since the days of 386 PCs while NVidia became a company like 7-8 years ago. They need to grow up as a company (their statements bashing ATI in their leaked marketing sheets for training, just proves my point) Do you have any idea how long ago 30" Cinema Display was announced and showcased on WWDC. They had plenty of time to do their thing and make the card work. Of course, Apple on the other hand is coming out with all the fancy talk as usual, Dual Link Dual Turbo crap, like it's something so unique. Edited September 7, 2004 by Boz Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584517028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjmUK Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 hahhhahahahahhaah....dude ATI does have the technology and don't go all ballistic on us here because your card doesn't work right, or that the fact show that NVidia does a ****ty job producing the cards. FYI All-in-Wonder X800XT is coming out real soon and they have most of the GL series of cards switched to X800 chip. I know a lot of people who have X800XT PE (so do I). I don't really care about NVidia VS ATI talk, I've owned ATI and I love their cards, but don't consider myself a fanboy (too old), but I just get upset with moronic statements like that. How old are you? 10? 12? ATI has been on the market since the days of 386 PCs while NVidia became a company like 7-8 years ago. They need to grow up as a company (their statements bashing ATI in their leaked marketing sheets for training, just proves my point) That was a little harsh, but you do make a very good point ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/214569-apple-delayed-by-nvidia/#findComment-584517042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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