malebolgia Veteran Posted October 6, 2004 Veteran Share Posted October 6, 2004 I was wondering if anyone knows what will be the last AGP video card released by ATI? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANova Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Not anytime soon. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malebolgia Veteran Posted October 6, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted October 6, 2004 Not anytime soon. I'm not expecting to see any new video cards till December, but it would be nice to know if ATI will continue to support those of us with AGP slots. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalN. Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 yea they will, for a while yet Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANova Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 They are developing bridge chips with the intent and purpose of converting their native PCIE to AGP. As long as the AGP bus can support the card's bandwidth requirement there will be AGP cards. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malebolgia Veteran Posted October 6, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted October 6, 2004 They are developing bridge chips with the intent and purpose of converting their native PCIE to AGP. As long as the AGP bus can support the card's bandwidth requirement there will be AGP cards. How long do we have to wait for that technology? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahul Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 till pciexpress becomes very popular ,we are talking abt 6 months or so . Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3ta Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well from what I've heard the next generation R430 and R480 are going to be native PCI Express. So it looks a lot like the X800 will be it for us AGP users. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtLENIN Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Kinda silly with PCI Express when 8x aint maximized the full potential yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stncttr908 Veteran Posted October 6, 2004 Veteran Share Posted October 6, 2004 By not producing AGP cards ATI would be effectively killing off a majority of the market. Granted, PCI-E will make gains on AGP for market share, but that will be gradual. I expect it to take quite some time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argote Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well you still see standard PCI cards today :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKDarkJedi Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well, in answer to the first post, ATI are still producing the X800 series of cards for AGP, and they're about to release the X700 (slightly less powerful, but a low more power efficient) on both PCI Express 16x and AGP (AGP will be out about december time, PCI express in first half november. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584682966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radium Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well you still see standard PCI cards today :whistle: Because people still have PCI slots... motherboards with PCIe x16 won't have AGP. AGP only has one purpose, graphics. PCI is different. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584683614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 motherboards with PCIe x16 won't have AGP. actually they can http://www.ixbt.com/short/2k4-09/ecs1.jpg just the catch is its not a true agp Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584683860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radium Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 actually they canhttp://www.ixbt.com/short/2k4-09/ecs1.jpg just the catch is its not a true agp They can, but will they?! Not many will... because it's slower. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584683873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premgenius Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 good too hear that...Still waiting for my HIS X800XT HIS have a terrible distribution method I'm really ****ed off make me wait any longer and I'll get a NVIDIA 6800U + i'll have to buy a 500W PSU or atleast more powerful then my 400W right now :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584683951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radium Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I think that the next generation, mid-range cards... will come in AGP flavors. Many people out there are still unaware of the switch. :) Just a wild guess... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584683958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANova Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Yes the R430 and the R480 will be avilable in both native PCIE and bridged AGP. Still waiting for my HIS X800XT HIS have a terrible distribution method I'm really ****ed off make me wait any longer and I'll get a NVIDIA 6800U 6800 Ultras are just as hard to find as X800 XTs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584685166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4esh Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I am so confused. isn't this X800 AGP ???????????????????? http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-102-363&depa=1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584686064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stezo2k Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I am so confused. isn't this X800 AGP ???????????????????? http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-102-363&depa=1 yeah, thats 8x AGP Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584686079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4esh Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 so then why are people saying ATI has yet to release to X700 and X800 for AGP? Also what are the prices we are talking about for the X700? What are the benchmarks compared to lets say a 9800pro ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584686091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argote Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 good too hear that...Still waiting for my HIS X800XT HIS have a terrible distribution method I'm really ****ed off make me wait any longer and I'll get a NVIDIA 6800U + i'll have to buy a 500W PSU or atleast more powerful then my 400W right now :( cancel the stupid card, BTW the 6800 series will run fine on your PSU Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584688195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 ATI STILL HAS to launch its response to NV44 AGP. NV 44 AGP is bridged version of Nvidias NV44 a native PCIe card. It will be launched in Q4 2004. ATI's RV351 is its last AGP chip and from RV351 on ATI will bridge its PCI-E with RIALTO bridge chip as long there is a demand for AGP cards. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19046 Its last AGP chip not card though :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584725750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiffy0517 Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 so then why are people saying ATI has yet to release to X700 and X800 for AGP? Also what are the prices we are talking about for the X700? What are the benchmarks compared to lets say a 9800pro ? 584686091[/snapback] look up one post in the sig :) they were talking about x700's coming out for pci-e and agp, the price for an x700 will be 200 to compete with the 6600gt and if you want a comparison between x700 and 9800pro the x700 will score around 8000 3dmark03 while 9800's score around 6000 3dmark03 edit: oh wow you could have gotten that from jerry's sig. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/226670-last-agp-model-from-ati/#findComment-584725921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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