Dromatic Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 another thing if you live by site, the wind you cannot see, or air, you might just as well stop breathing, but the machines out there that were created or when its cold is just a glemse of it, you can see it then, i tell you even though we don't see God the Bible is the glimse of him when your flying in a airplane you don't see a pilot but you believe theres a pilot, or hope there is one at least, site is not how the world goes around, its by who is in charge of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 another thing if you live by site, the wind you cannot see, or air, you might just as well stop breathing, but the machines out there that were created or when its cold is just a glemse of it, you can see it then, i tell you even though we don't see God the Bible is the glimse of himwhen your flying in a airplane you don't see a pilot but you believe theres a pilot, or hope there is one at least, site is not how the world goes around, its by who is in charge of the world. 584743848[/snapback] It is easy to prove the existence of the pilot, just go up to the cockpit. Where is god's cockpit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRogers Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) What are YOU talking about???? You quote one counter-example to try and disprove something? Let me guess... Bush supporter? Thought so... 584743842[/snapback] I am. That doesn't matter. I'm just pointing out that your comment wasn't well thought out. I'm a Bush supporter because I'm conservative not because I agree with everything he says. Edited October 16, 2004 by MrRogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Max Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Another Amen for Dromatic ! One thing is sure, Government and Religion are not supposed to go together at all! That's how you end up with an Islamic Republic (which is a contradiction). Keep religion out of the senate, for Christ's sake ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromatic Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 its unseen pictures of Jesus is not Jesus! We don't know what he looks like its in the Bible, we don't know what color he is. We know that all this stuff the scientist are trying to come up with is not gonna happend if the Bible says its not. Bible says war on earth is not gonna end. Also says our knowledge will increase it has. I know how to read, I read the Bible I see the Truth its real. Don't listen to me cause I am a sinner I am a sinner I will always be a sinner but I see everything people are trying to come up with and it won't happen unless its in the Bible. Even in the Bible it says we had Murders, Men on Men Women on Women. But God created us for a reason and that reason is to see if we belong with him! or if we belong to Satan. Thats why were created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PimpinWithAaron Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Yep ... he did ... he created a woman. If you want to know who screwed it up, notice Adam and Eve -- they sinned. 584743587[/snapback] lol so retarded, thank god i dont live in sinking america anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 its unseenpictures of Jesus is not Jesus! We don't know what he looks like its in the Bible, we don't know what color he is. Actually they have a pretty good idea of what his skin color may have been from that time period. It was most likely that he may have been a black man. We know that all this stuff the scientist are trying to come up with is not gonna happend if the Bible says its not. Bible says war on earth is not gonna end.I thought that it says that it will end after Jesus comes back? You contradict yourself.Also says our knowledge will increase it has. I know how to read, I read the Bible I see the Truth its real. HA. Don't listen to me cause I am a sinner I am a sinner I will always be a sinnerbut I see everything people are trying to come up with and it won't happen unless its in the Bible. Luckily I don't suffer from your inferiority complex.Even in the Bible it says we had Murders, Men on Men Women on Women. So? A lot of stories have similar themes. Ancient Greek Mythology is far older than the bible as well. In fact it has influenced many of the stories in the bible to. Apollo and Jesus for one. Also, Jesus isn't a Hebrew name, it is a Greek one. Most scholars today think that it was original Yeshua. But God created us for a reason and that reason is to see if we belong with him! or if we belong to Satan. Thats why were created. 584743909[/snapback] Who created god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromatic Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Nobody Created God, God has always been here and always will. Jesus came to the earth to show the way not to end the way. He helped others, he prayed for them, he healed them. He died on the cross and said to his Father Forgive them Father for they do not know. If someone tells you that Jesus is this color or what he looks like. They need Jesus. Jesus Is unseen unidentified, and if you don't believe that then I will Pray for you, even though I don't know you, God knows who you are. While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become children of light." Jesus said these things, and he departed and hid himself from them. John 12:36 what that means is even though he hid from them if they believe he is there they will be with the light. Jesus is the Light! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anamericangod Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 It is a fetus. The same as a baby is a baby, an infant is an infant, a teenager is a teenager, etc, etc. I never said that it wasn't human, but having human DNA doesn't make one a person. A fetus is only a potential person the same as any cell in your body now. 584743687[/snapback] i honestly think that is the worst argument for abortion, ever. baby, infant, teenager......those are clearly stages in human development. keyword HUMAN. "having human DNA doesn't make one a person" - um.....then what does it make you? not...a person? A fetus is a potential person? Holy ****, did you totally jack off during the sex ed class or what? It's ignorance like this that just blows my mind. I'm all about peopls rights and whatnot, and everyone talks about the womans right to choose, and you kiss the ass of the constitution. What about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? All men are created equal? Gosh, must have missed those! Sorry ya fetus! Oh...i guess it doesn't apply to that random assembly of cells that just might, just by some random, astronomical chance, form into a "human being." You seem to have your own definition of what a living being is though, which personally, I find to be ridiculous, so there isn't much sense in arguing with you. Hopefully you will be sexually responsible enough to never be put into that situation. God damn 14 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Max Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Jesus is the lightHalleluijahGod damn 14 year olds. 584744113[/snapback] Yeah and there is such thing as rape, idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anamericangod Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 HalleluijahYeah and there is such thing as rape, idiot. 584744147[/snapback] agreed minus the idiot part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Max Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 This thread started off as a peaceful poll about the upcoming US election, and now people are debating about abortion, religion. Funny :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoNiCfReAk Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Can we drop the abortion crap! To the anti-abortionists: If you really love mankind that much go out and save some of the millions of starving children, or children dying of aids! There is more suffering going outside the womb that you don't have to worry what choice a mother makes for her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromatic Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 There is people out there trying to help them, by showing it on national television. Telling you to give just a Dollar or less a month. Yes I love them kids as I do anyother, but people have got to think about Murder is Murder even if its not even a day old Its still Murder. I gotta work so l8r I care about you, I care about them, don't care if you don't care about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0zm4g Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 even though im not american id vote kerry, i also like those vote kerry t shirts that jack black was wearing there kool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Nobody Created God, God has always been here and always will. Jesus came to the earth to show the way not to end the way. He helped others, he prayed for them, he healed them. He died on the cross and said to his Father Forgive them Father for they do not know. If someone tells you that Jesus is this color or what he looks like. They need Jesus. Jesus Is unseen unidentified, and if you don't believe that then I will Pray for you, even though I don't know you, God knows who you are. And you're evidence of this is? While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become children of light." Jesus said these things, and he departed and hid himself from them.There is not one word in the bible in Jesus' own hand. It is all what others have said about him.It is sort of like this. http://www.jhuger.com/kisshank.mv John 12:36what that means is even though he hid from them if they believe he is there they will be with the light. Jesus is the Light! 584744011[/snapback] Matthew 6:2 -10 http://www.holybible.com/search/searchemall.php Matthew 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Matthew 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: Matthew 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Matthew 6:8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. What this means is that you should keep your religious beliefs to yourself and that those who don't are hypocrits. I.E. Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) i honestly think that is the worst argument for abortion, ever.baby, infant, teenager......those are clearly stages in human development.? keyword HUMAN. "having human DNA doesn't make one a person"? - um.....then what does it make you? not...a person? A fetus is a potential person?? Holy ****, did you totally jack off during the sex ed class or what?? It's ignorance like this that just blows my mind.? I'm all about peopls rights and whatnot, and everyone talks about the womans right to choose, and you kiss the ass of the constitution.? What about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?? All men are created equal?? Gosh, must have missed those!? Sorry ya fetus! Oh...i guess it doesn't apply to that random assembly of cells that just might, just by some random, astronomical chance, form into a "human being."? You seem to have your own definition of what a living being is though, which personally, I find to be ridiculous, so there isn't much sense in arguing with you.? Hopefully you will be sexually responsible enough to never be put into that situation. God damn 14 year olds. 584744113[/snapback] I see that you don't have one clue about the issue here. You spout nothing but the same old ignorance based nonsense. If you don't know what you're talking about then you should shut up. BTW, transgenetic animals have human DNA. Are they human as well? You seem to have great dificultity knowing what a person is. Must be your limited upbringing. It is probably not your fault that you were lied to so much. The religious tend to believe whatever their elders tell them, even when it is obvious nonsense. Very few actually see through the religious nonsense they are taught as children. Edited October 16, 2004 by Foub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Can we drop the abortion crap! To the anti-abortionists: If you really love mankind that much go out and save some of the millions of starving children, or children dying of aids! There is more suffering going outside the womb that you don't have to worry what choice a mother makes for her life. 584744237[/snapback] As it says in Mathew 6:2-10 these types are nothing but hypocrits. they won't do a dawm thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 There is people out there trying to help them, by showing it on national television.Telling you to give just a Dollar or less a month. Yes I love them kids as I do anyother, but people have got to think about Murder is Murder even if its not even a day old Its still Murder. I gotta work so l8r Murder is the UNLAWFUL killing of a person. Abortion is legal so therefore it is not murder. What is murder is when anti-abortionists go out and kill those who perform abortions and anyone else who gets in their way. If you're going to argue something you should at least know what you're talking about. It seems that the religious on here don't know one thing about what they are talking about. That they all seem to be using the same handbook of lame arguments that have no basis in reality. There is even one on here using urban legends as evidence. :) I care about you, I care about them, don't care if you don't care about me. 584744279[/snapback] If you truly cared you would be doing all that you could. That you would give all of your money and time to helping those who are truly in need. Since you aren't then you're nothing more than a hypocrit. Preaching to others is the least you can do, literally the least and thus meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariusu Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 oh no..where's this thread going to? btw..i would vote for bush :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..::. P X .::.. Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Voted for Kerry. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altezza Veteran Posted October 16, 2004 Veteran Share Posted October 16, 2004 Kerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibnor858 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 ok, first things first 'BUSH' is an administration not a lone man running a contry he is backed up by countless Sycophantic 'yes' men and women. who often tell it to him the way he wants to hear it instead of the way it is leading to BAD DECISION making. Alot of the people he has working for him now are also people close to his father or who have worked with his father. this in itslef is not democracy if infact the president is not making the final decision and his decision is based on advice form a party or person that is biased then this is not how democracy should work. that type of democracy is flawed. Secondly if a vote is so close that the winner is determined by a few judges apointed by the already president or a previous president i.e bush senior or anyone other than the people then this is not democracy it is corrupt. D Rumsfeld held the same positon in Bush seniors presidency as he does now in bush juniors presidency! and we are in the same war as we were with Bush senior then the only differences being the time and the president cant you make the connection here!!! So what im saying in brief is that they have changed the president but not the administration more or less, therefore not a democracy as these people are hand picked an they are running your country americans how can you be happy with a situation where you allowed to vote but it means nothing! ive got more to say on that issue but that is enough for now, 3rd point: The USA grossly neglects a huge proportion of its population in fact it is close to 35,000,000 people living without food or running water! I mean christ this number has grown by 3 million since bush junior has been in power! his system favours the rich, that is a fact. those stats are more like something you would expect from a '3rd world' country not the richest most powerful nation in the world. try explaining/justifying to some of those poor poor people that the money spent or being spent on your space program (85billion in the next 5 years) is more important than 35 million impoverished amercian people. try explaining how in excess of 100 billion is money well spent in iraq instead of on housing and feeding the millions of people in the USA, what a joke. I am no huge fan of kerry personally i think he lacks charisma but in the debates he has won simply by knowing what he is talking about...bush talks constantly in general non specific terms which is typical of a politician trying to avoid the truth. kerry talks specifally and with a clear point instead of just saying 'america is under threat lets attack a random contry, that might help' DUH!!!! I voted Kerry only because there was no other option. whch brings me to my fourth point... democracy is not democracy if a country as big as america is given only 2 realistic candidates to choose from. this system simply is not representative of the people...THE VOTING PUBLIC IS IGNORED BY THIS SYSTEM. enjoy your day. :) Max. related link the cost of war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmankent Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Kerry as Bush can hardly read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdme3200 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 This is stupid. Start something more real like what would you do with a million $. Not if you were American and could vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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