komplexnous Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Soldiers in Iraq and abroad seem to all be pro-Bush, but you must realize that most of those being able to speak through the controlled media (and those not) are largely unable to hear differing or dissenting views regarding the president while serving overseas, etc.. If they do hear these different views, officers are told to punish the soldiers (be that verbal or something else) for even thinking about a democratic feeling in this plutocratic democracy: dissent. About taxes, stop complaining and grow up. We need to all realize that if the deficit is not brought down soon, it will have a very significant impact on our country's stability, which rests with the economy and the morale of the people (which Bush does a great job to bring it down to the ground). Bush has demonstrated he can not handle either, but he did do a good job when everyone was vulnerable, of course! Anyone can comfort a country with artificial happiness, words of hope, and promises of retaliation against an "evildoer!" SIMPLY PUT, we have two choices: take care of the deficit now (rise taxes) or deal with it later when it is even higher (even higher tax rises). A thinking and intellectual person will consider other ideas and possibly switch his own ideas after contemplating what is best; Einstein was an excellent example of a flip-flopper. If you don't realize this, then you have not studied much about Einstein and other great political and scientific minds. I will likely vote Kerry, but I still question what we are really voting for. They are both selfish elitists who fight for big businesses, not us. If only a 3rd party candidate could be on the ballot in every state coupled with an unbiased media giving people choices about opinions, not telling them what to think.......but that would take an evolution in humans. :p For those ready to call me a socialist or some other media-brainwashed term, I know that socialism and communism do not work. On top of that, I love America and wish for it to last for generations to come, which is why I think the problems in the government need to be addressed before they get even more out of hand causing the downfall of a great nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 lol well i think america is more aware of the damage caused by bush,and yes i think kerry will win,he has won almost all the polls not only here,but in all media bush will bite the dust very fast,if u ask me 584742757[/snapback] Though, as Bush has more than shown, he really doesn't need the majority of the real votes, only a majority of the electorial college votes and with that he can have the fix in as he did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSammyx Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I like Kerry because for one he is willing to raise minimal wage which I believe will help stimulate the economy. I also agree with his views on several things such as homosexuality being genetic and not choice. 584742741[/snapback] explain how raising minimum wage will stimulat the economy? im studying economics and what you are saying is absolutely incorect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduardValencia Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 The US is currently the superpower, but in a few years tim eI personally see the EU taking on that role.As soon as the constitution is agreed and the post of president is made legal/permanent. The EU currently has about 750million citizens, US 250million so it goes without saying that the EU will have the larger army in the end. Just a matter of time I think. 584742755[/snapback] :no: california has almost the same economy that all europe,U.S has almost doubled europe in millionares. europe isn't growing much,and also it's population is getting older and decreasing.and also the european union isn't equal to The united states,we americans are gathered as 1 country,europeans are gathered as a community health systems are broked lol so let's compare eaach country against U.S England?...........england is a puppy compared to U.S cmon,i'm amused how an english can say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRogers Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 The US is currently the superpower, but in a few years tim eI personally see the EU taking on that role.As soon as the constitution is agreed and the post of president is made legal/permanent. The EU currently has about 750million citizens, US 250million so it goes without saying that the EU will have the larger army in the end. Just a matter of time I think. 584742755[/snapback] So, by your logic that would make China the next superpower over both the US and Europe put together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromatic Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 From what I heard bush said he is trying to make the WORLD a better place. I hate seeing stuff like Terrorist going to Russia and hurting them children and seeing them get hurt like that, or Hitler what he has done to his people by burning people to the stakes, doesn't matter what race they are, thats why US went in and attacked Hitler Now saddam is follow his footsteps, along with Osama. I don't wanna see this world go in the gutter like its been since World War I I see that we are the ones that gots to take a stand not let them come to us like 9-11. But we gotta go to them and start something because I tell you I seen this one TV the other day a women was so happy to see US Soldiers that she gave them a hug and said Thank You you saved us from Saddam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSammyx Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 From what I heard bush said he is trying to make the WORLD a better place.I hate seeing stuff like Terrorist going to Russia and hurting them children and seeing them get hurt like that, or Hitler what he has done to his people by burning people to the stakes, doesn't matter what race they are, thats why US went in and attacked Hitler cause he is the one that brought slavery to US Now saddam is follow his footsteps, along with Osama. I don't wanna see this world go in the gutter like its been since World War I I see that we are the ones that gots to take a stand not let them come to us like 9-11. But we gotta go to them and start something because I tell you I seen this one TV the other day a women was so happy to see US Soldiers that she gave them a hug and said Thank You you saved us from Saddam! 584742802[/snapback] hitler brought slavery to the US????? hahahahhaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 explain how raising minimum wage will stimulat the economy? im studying economics and what you are saying is absolutely incorect. 584742787[/snapback] It's pretty simple. People earn more money, people spend more money. The increase in flow of money makes the economy all around strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 i guess hes even more of an idiot than i thought... how the hell can homosexuality be genetic!? same sex can't produce children!!!! DURRRRR!!!i apologize if im getting off topic with this post, but this is a no-brainer! 584742762[/snapback] Well, you're someone who doesn't know anything about genetics. Ever hear of deminate and recessive genes? They can express themselves in one member of a family and be dormate in another and be passed onto the next generation by the one which has the dormate genes and then be passed to their children where they could express themselves. Plus, homosexuality also appears in nature as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastSamurai Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 So, by your logic that would make China the next superpower over both the US and Europe put together? 584742793[/snapback] you dont see that coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSammyx Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 It's pretty simple. People earn more money, people spend more money. The increase in flow of money makes the economy all around strong. 584742812[/snapback] its not that simple. businesses will cut down jobs in order to cope with the extra costs. raising minimum wage could have serious concequences, and now is not the right time to test the US economy, it is not exactly in it's best condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduardValencia Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 floow the truth vote for kerry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoNiCfReAk Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Kerry! Even though some Americans (conservatives) probably deserve Bush, I don't wish higher taxes, lower unemployment, and declining health care on any poor ******! Besides Bush is a numbskull, do you really want a guy with linguistic problems giving you speaches? A guy who can't even business, running a country? How much Saudi-investment money did this guy waste while driving his oil companies in to the ground? How many handouts has this guy took from the Bin Laden family? No wonder September 11th happened. It had nothing to do with Iraq or Afghanastan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairon Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Well, you're someone who doesn't know anything about genetics. Ever hear of deminate and recessive genes? They can express themselves in one member of a family and be dormate in another and be passed onto the next generation by the one which has the dormate genes and then be passed to their children where they could express themselves. Plus, homosexuality also appears in nature as well. 584742814[/snapback] He is obviously misinformed, I agree with you. Analyzing the brain and other scientific tests have shown homosexuals have different makeup and brain matter then those who aren't homo. In other words, they are defective. :whistle: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameOverRob Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 Kerry! Even though some Americans (conservatives) probably deserve Bush, I don't wish higher taxes, lower unemployment, and declining health care on any poor ******! Besides Bush is a numbskull, do you really want a guy with linguistic problems giving you speaches? A guy who can't even business, running a country? How much Saudi-investment money did this guy waste while driving his oil companies in to the ground? How many handouts has this guy took from the Bin Laden family? No wonder September 11th happened. It had nothing to do with Iraq or Afghanastan! 584742829[/snapback] Good Point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 explain how raising minimum wage will stimulat the economy? im studying economics and what you are saying is absolutely incorect. 584742787[/snapback] If one can't get enough to buy stuff they won't. Plus the average wage in the US is drastically down during the Bush reign and the true unemployment numbers are actually closer to 10% if you count all of those whose beneifits have run out and they can't found new jobs and those who have just given up finding a job. Around 81% of the jobs created during Bush's time in office have been minimum wage level. In Canada they have kept the minimum wage at a decent level and we still have a good enough economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairon Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 From what I heard bush said he is trying to make the WORLD a better place.I hate seeing stuff like Terrorist going to Russia and hurting them children and seeing them get hurt like that, or Hitler what he has done to his people by burning people to the stakes, doesn't matter what race they are, thats why US went in and attacked Hitler 584742802[/snapback] You, my friend are an idiot, plain and simple. American colonists, and the British enslaved people way before hitler. Please don't vote.It's idiots like you who put idiots in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 its not that simple. businesses will cut down jobs in order to cope with the extra costs. raising minimum wage could have serious concequences, and now is not the right time to test the US economy, it is not exactly in it's best condition. 584742822[/snapback] Companies have already laid off many workers because of the economy and outsourcing, they can't get rid of many more else they will be no one left running the business. Please don't vote.It's idiots like you who put idiots in office. 584742846[/snapback] This was supposed to be a thread for non-Americans, so no one here should be voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Socling Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I will likely vote Kerry, but I still question what we are really voting for. They are both selfish elitists who fight for big businesses, not us. If only a 3rd party candidate could be on the ballot in every state coupled with an unbiased media giving people choices about opinions, not telling them what to think.......but that would take an evolution in humans. tongue.gif You have that right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduardValencia Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 you dont see that coming? 584742818[/snapback] not really i saw a study that china can't get a level of development like the U.S have,because it can consume all world resoruces U.S population will reach 500 million in 40 years,so that will never happen,U:S need to be wiped ot of the face of the earth for not being a superpower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 So, by your logic that would make China the next superpower over both the US and Europe put together? 584742793[/snapback] China seems to be since the US is all to willing to overlook all of its human rights violations and the like in order to get into its market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeburn Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 NEITHER!! Your media has forced you to believe that the only "candidates" are Bush and Kerry. Kerry is the "flip-flopper" between good and evil, and bush is just plain evil! Kerry is just the "Not bush" vote. I wonder what would happen if you held an election in which your vote was used AGAINST a candidate. You placed a check next to bush, and that was it, your vote said "I don't want him to be president". The person with the least votes wins. No, of course that wouldn't work. But thats the way it IS working right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduardValencia Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 kerry 65.14% bush 33% bush what a pitty :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitallaughter Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 oops, I'm an american... o well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesp Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 All I need to know is when Clinton was incharge America was in the best economic state ever. Sinse Bush took over...crash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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