Samoa Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 You should search around for the other thread, it was much longer. 585019976[/snapback] It was longer just not as interesting...:whistle:e: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4M3R Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 It was longer just not as interesting.... :whistle: 585020176[/snapback] I'll second that :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacd Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 now I remember reading somewhere back when i was a way more hard core trek fan, that the federation tried to replicate the cloaking technology but everytime it ended in catostrophic results, and that the fact it worked on the enterprise was somewhat of a fluke that they could not work again... or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoa Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 now I remember reading somewhere back when i was a way more hard core trek fan, that the federation tried to replicate the cloaking technology but everytime it ended in catostrophic results, and that the fact it worked on the enterprise was somewhat of a fluke that they could not work again...or something... 585022507[/snapback] There is some mention in that in one of the movies or episodes with TNG. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserov Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 There is some mention in that in one of the movies or episodes with TNG. :yes: 585022901[/snapback] See TNG's "The Pegasus". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted December 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 1, 2004 The cloaking device was first developed by the Romulan Empire in the 2260s. Invisibility had long been possible - the selective bending of light around a vessel would render it invisible to whatever frequency range was selected. However, the power cost was so enormous that such a device was not considered to be practical.In 2266 the Enterprise encountered a Romulan vessel which carried the first known practical cloaking device. The ship was able to cloak itself from sight at will, and although it is was still visible to motion sensors these were not accurate enough for more than a general location - certainly not accurate enough for a firing solution. Although the cloak was quite effective, it did have its drawbacks. The power drain was so great that the Romulan vessel was unable to use its own scanners effectively and could not fire any weapons. The vessel also had relatively limited range due to the high fuel consumption. The Romulans apparently traded cloaking technology to the Klingons in exchange for warships. Certainly the Romulans began operating Klingon-designed vessels in the 2268, while the Klingons were known to employ cloaking technology at least as early as 2285. The Klingons made at least one major innovation in cloaking technology in 2293, when they produced a Bird of Prey capable of firing torpedoes whilst cloaked. The prototype vessel battled the USS Enterprise and USS Excelsior in orbit of Khittomer; despite emitting large amounts of neutron radiation the weapon was highly effective, but the Enterprise crew realized that the Bird of Prey could be tracked by following the plasma exhaust emitted by its engines and modified a photon torpedo to follow this trail. The development was so effective that the Klingon development was rendered next to useless, and was never again an effective combatant. In 2311 the Federation signed the Treaty of Algeron, which reaffirmed the Romulan Neutral Zone and forbade the Federation from developing or deploying any cloaking technology. Perhaps the most impressive example of cloaking technology was observed in 2364, when the supposedly mythical planet of Aldea was discovered by the Enterprise-D. The planet had been hidden for centuries behind a complicated light refracting mechanism which bent light around it in a similar manner to the Romulan cloaking device. The Minosians were also known to employ cloaking technology as part of their Echo Papa 607 weapons system. The Enterprise-D was forced to battle a cloaked drone weapon in orbit of the planet; it overcame the cloaking device by luring the drone into the atmosphere where the turbulence made it visible. Later in the same year the Romulan Warbird was encountered for the first time when the Enterprise-D met one at the Neutral Zone. It was initially believed that the Enterprise sensor systems could detect the Warbird through its cloak, but it quickly became apparent that the Romulans had in fact deliberately allowed themselves to be detected in order to determine the Federation's intentions towards them.8 Subsequent encounters revealed that the improved cloaking device still suffered from limitations. The Romulan vessels remain unable to fire whilst cloaked, whilst advances in Federation sensor technology have made its invisibility less than assured. Perhaps the most effective development was the Tachyon detection grid; created by Enterprise-D personnel in 2368, the system involves a network of vessels which send tachyon beams towards one another across a large area of space. Even a cloaked vessel will disturb one of these beams when crossing it, hence rendering it detectable. Subspace listening posts and gravitic sensors are both a worry for Romulan commanders, and the Federation has deployed large numbers of these along its borders. In 2369 the Federation gained significant intelligence on the Warbird when a Starfleet officer masqueraded as a Romulan for a short time. She confirmed that the ship must keep a careful watch over its own electromagnetic missions whilst cloaked, and that the radiative emissions of the warp engines must be precisely balanced by means of nullifier cores. Even a small misalignment in one of these cores creates a polarized magnetic disturbance whenever the ship is in motion, a disturbance which can be detected by a Federation vessel. Ironically, perhaps the greatest single advance in cloaking technology was made by the Federation. In 2358 the Starship Pegasus was believed destroyed after a mutiny by the crew. However, in 2370 Starfleet discovered that the Pegasus was still largely intact. Admiral Pressman, Captain of the ship at the time of its loss, attempted to recover some technology from the vessel using the Enterprise-D. It transpired that certain Federation officers had been illegally developing a Phase Cloak, a device which could change the structure of matter in order render it both invisible and able to pass through normal matter. A vessel equipped with such a device could hide within a planet or a star, completely immune from conventional attack. The crew had been so fearful of what they considered to be a dangerous device that they had mutinied rather than continue to operate it. In 2368 the Enterprise assisted a Romulan vessel in distress, and discovered that this vessel had also been attempting to test a phase cloak. The results had been disastrous, causing an accident that would have completely destroyed the ship if not for the assistance of the Starfleet vessel. There has since been little sign of progress with this technology. In 2371 the Romulans agreed to allow Starfleet the use of a single cloaking device on board the USS Defiant in order to facilitate that ship's missions against the Dominion, in return for all of Starfleet's information about the organization. Although the original agreement was to only use the cloak in the Gamma Quadrant, Captain Sisko subsequently violated this aspect of the agreement on many occasions. This is quoted from one of the articles at Daystrom Institute Technical Library Notice the words in Italics. I wonder if it makes sense. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserov Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Patrick Stewart and Marina Sirtis (Deanna Troi) have done voices for a brief Family Guy season 4 skit, and Patrick Steward is part of the cast for American Dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted December 1, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 1, 2004 Patrick also did the voice-over on a good-year commercial. The company makes tires. The main quote is "Assurance, on the wings of Good-Year". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoa Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 Patrick also did the voice-over on a good-year commercial. The company makes tires. The main quote is "Assurance, on the wings of Good-Year". 585024538[/snapback] Yeah I remember that... :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserov Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 He does a lot of commercials. I miss Avery Brooks :( "DU-KAT!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted December 2, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 2, 2004 THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserov Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 You sure? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoa Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 ^omg.... :o when did this happen? *I really have no idea what you are posting about... :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 It's from..what is it.. TNG's Chain of Command I think it's called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted December 2, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 2, 2004 Huh!? Four lights?! Chain of Command!? .... I'm lost :unsure:, please fill me in on any discussion related to Star Trek. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 (edited) Huh!? Four lights?! Chain of Command!? .... I'm lost :unsure:, please fill me in on any discussion related to Star Trek. :rolleyes: 585030051[/snapback] Picard was captured by the Cardassians.....tortured.....they tried to make him believe there were 5 lights (there were 4). Go and watch the eps (Chain of Command - Parts 1 and 2) Season 6. :laugh: Edited December 2, 2004 by Drone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoa Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 Picard was captured by the Cardassians.....tortured.....they tried to make him believe there were 5 lights (there were 4). Go and watch the eps (Chain of Command - Parts 1 and 2) Season 6. :laugh: 585030532[/snapback] Now that makes sense... :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted December 3, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 3, 2004 Now that makes sense... :yes: 585030601[/snapback] It really does make sense. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4M3R Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 It really does make sense. :) 585031177[/snapback] Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted December 3, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 3, 2004 I don't know about you guys but I can't wait to see the episode Kir'Shara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted December 3, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 3, 2004 Chain of Command was what I call a "filler" episode. The only good part of the entire 2 parter was Picard's torture segments with David Warner (and Ronny Cox as Captain Jellico) And the last scene where Picard screams "THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS" is classic TNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoa Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 I don't know about you guys but I can't wait to see the episode Kir'Shara. 585031826[/snapback] (sigh) I"ve got no choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserov Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 No choice? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoa Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 ^ I can't get the episode til someone puts it on BT. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsesis Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 ^ I can't get the episode til someone puts it on BT. ???? 585035291[/snapback] Its ouuuuttttttt :huh: which is weird cuz I usually have to wait till saturday morning before I get my fix :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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