vol_freak Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 The final was 24-6 but it wasn't even that close. Dominating performance by Auburn today. Still not sure they are gonna move up to #2 though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584916465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted November 14, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 14, 2004 They will not move up to #2, believe me. They need OU (next week) or USC to lose so they can hop up into the top 2, otherwise, they will remain third. P.S. What a bad performance by Wisconsin :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584916733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vol_freak Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 It's tough getting drilled by a MSU team that needed a win today to get back to .500 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584916873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 14, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 14, 2004 msu is the best 5-5 team in the country though :p seriously, if they had stanton at the beginning of the year, msu could be like 8-2 right now... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584917051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vol_freak Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 msu is the best 5-5 team in the country though :pseriously, if they had stanton at the beginning of the year, msu could be like 8-2 right now... 584917051[/snapback] I'll take yor word for it. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584917061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 i really dont see how auburn couldnt move up to #2 after that.. but even if we dont this week.. auburns next 2 games are against alabama and tennessee (most likely) .. whereas oklahoma plays baylor and the big 12 north winner (no one is better than 6-4 right now) .. so that should move auburn up if we should win out.. now, if one of the top 2 would just lose.. it would all be taken care of Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584918553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted November 14, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 14, 2004 uh oh. the sucky bcs could screw all this up again. i heard auburn to #2 unless OU won by 60 points Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584918559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deceased_which_appreciates Posted November 14, 2004 Author Share Posted November 14, 2004 That was by far the loudest game I have ever been to. The stadium was rocking the entire first half. Evene with 2:23 left in the game, up by 24 points, every Auburn fan was on their feet hoping to hand Richt his first shutout. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584919857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 It should be mandatory to have a conference championship. USC has it so easy, while teams like Auburn have to play another ranked opponent. It can work both ways, I understand that, but it just isn't right. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584919882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 Auburn is one of the best out there. I'll start watching other teams more now that WVU has no passion to play football this year. WTG Coaching. But I don't think anyone is going to knock USC off. They're too consistent (and great "come back from behind" ability). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584919897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vol_freak Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 It should be mandatory to have a conference championship. USC has it so easy, while teams like Auburn have to play another ranked opponent. It can work both ways, I understand that, but it just isn't right. 584919882[/snapback] I agree. All the major BCS conferences should have to play a championship game. It cost the Vols a shot at Miami in the 2001 NC. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584919944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 To Hell With Georgia! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584919953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 14, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 14, 2004 well the polls are out. looks like some of the voters finally had the guts to move auburn up. tied for 2nd in AP, 2pts behind in coaches. i don't really like conference championships, but it does make for an uneven playing field. CCG are all about the $$$, thats why they were invented. people try to make them sound like they are so great, and everything, and that the big 10 and pac 10 are stupid for not having one, but CCG's have only been around for a few years, they aren't the standard yet. i like knowing that if mich runs the table, they won't have to deal with one more tough opponent before the bowl games. the only reason why it makes the big ten look bad is that iowa and tOSU didn't play each other in 2002, and had wisky not lost, there could have been another tie this year (there still could be). but thats pure random luck that it works out that way, because of the way the schedules are made. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584920772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vol_freak Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 I think that's the point that all of us that have championship games hate. We have to play that one extra game that is usually a very possible loss. The conferences that have to play in these games feel like if we have to play in one so should everyone else. I do think it makes it more fair where the top two teams may not play each other during the regular season. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584920869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 15, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 15, 2004 but thats not the big 10/pac 10s fault that your conference is a money ######, and gave into the networks idea of having a CCG, know what i mean? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584921220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vol_freak Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 but thats not the big 10/pac 10s fault that your conference is a money ######, and gave into the networks idea of having a CCG, know what i mean? 584921220[/snapback] I didn't say it was anybody's fault...I just don't like it. :cool: I just wish all conferences would either have them or all would not have them. I could go either way. I guess the positive is it's fun to make that trip in December when your team makes it to the championship game. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584921243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted November 15, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 15, 2004 Give them all championship games, period. That's like giving the AFC two wild card games and the NFC none. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584921401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 15, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 15, 2004 I didn't say it was anybody's fault...I just don't like it. :cool: I just wish all conferences would either have them or all would not have them. I could go either way. I guess the positive is it's fun to make that trip in December when your team makes it to the championship game. 584921243[/snapback] i know, i'm just saying... :p people usually put the blame on the big10/pac10 though, and it gets annoying. i really don't care either way either.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584921706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Conference championship games are becoming necessary. There are too many teams in one conference. How can someone say (don't hate me for this, Bro ;) ) Michigan is the BIG 10 champion if they don't even play every single team in the conference? On the flip-side, look at the SEC. You've got 12 teams, 6 in the West, 6 in the East. Obviously, Florida cannot play 11 conference games in one year (the NCAA has strict scheduling procedures as far as number of conference games, out-of-conference games, etc.) So, while it does provide for a good deposit in the bank, it also provides for good football and a proper distinction of a conference champion. The problem that arises is a team like Auburn looks out west and sees USC sitting pretty while they have to get prepared to face a team they've already beaten once this year (we all know it's difficult to beat a team twice in one year, too). I would love to see USC play Cal again for the Pac 10 championship. Or Michigan play Wisconsin or Iowa. I agree, it is not the conference that is fully at fault, however, the conference also doesn't want to jeopardize their chance of getting a team into the NC either ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584926897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 16, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 16, 2004 exactly, it makes it that much harder to get a team into the NC, and we know that conferences want their team in an NC, cuz that brings lots of money. but not every conference gets a team in the NC every year, but a CCG is guaranteed every year, and when you have a network offering to pay you $$$ for a CCG, you are going to do it. unfortunately, these CCG's all originated over the conferences wanting money the networkds were offerering them. although, if the big 10 does get a 12th team, we probably will get a CCG...it's just a matter of time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584927216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 exactly, it makes it that much harder to get a team into the NC, and we know that conferences want their team in an NC, cuz that brings lots of money. but not every conference gets a team in the NC every year, but a CCG is guaranteed every year, and when you have a network offering to pay you $$$ for a CCG, you are going to do it. unfortunately, these CCG's all originated over the conferences wanting money the networkds were offerering them. although, if the big 10 does get a 12th team, we probably will get a CCG...it's just a matter of time. 584927216[/snapback] Good post and I agree, money rules college football. Let's also not forget the fact that you cannot simply say "Big 12 Championship Game" anymore, you have to include the "Dr. Pepper Big 12 Championship Game". Hmmm...just like bowl games. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584927493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted November 16, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 16, 2004 Well, the BCS still has Oklahoma ahead by quite a few points - .9621 to .9350. The biggest change on these BCS standings was Wisconsin going from 5th to 13th. Utah moved into 6th, less than .0100 away from fifth place Texas (don't know how Texas can be in 5th). Here are the standings for those interested :) Any comments? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584927865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I'm kind of surprised Florida State is above Boise State. And of course the obvious, Auburn should be #1, they've only had 1 close game the entire year...and completely dominated the others. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584927917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 16, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 16, 2004 as much as i hate FSU....boise st. BARELY beat san jose st, and BARELY beat tulsa. i'm sorry, i'm not knocking mid-majors, i think utah and louisville can compete, but boise st. doesn't even deserve to be in the top 25... honestly, after the top 3, i think it's all a toss up. let me start with cal. who have they beaten? nobody. cal's biggest argument is barely LOSING to USC...cal doens't have any impressive wins to show. texas is a joke, imo, and should have lost to kansas. that was NOT pass interference, it's a first down, and the game is over, texas is a two loss team. utah...man...such a mess. i don't want to play utah in a bowl game. if you lose to utah, you are the laughing stock of CFB, if you beat them, you just beat up on a poor mid-major school who shouldn't have been there in the first place michigan...my team...2 freshman in key places. our defense has been succeptible to big plays, and although i think we are good, our best win is over a #18th ranked iowa. the best rivaly in the history of sports is next weekend. it's all i care about. we win that one, and i get to go to the rose bowl again... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584928065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cha0s Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I agree, boise st. is a fluke Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/238163-ncaa-best-team-in-the-nation/page/3/#findComment-584928082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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