Hypoxiaicon Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 ^ Images do not work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585232459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkinzer Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 ^ Should be fixed. Odd. It worked right after I posted it... Everything look good now? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585232530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypoxiaicon Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Fixed. Looks good. Aprox. How many inches wider is the 2005FPW then that 17 Inch? About 2-3? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585232548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drslack Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Replacement LCD arrived today and it is so much worse than the first. Originally I had a dead/stuck pixel, a concave effect which I couldn't get rid of (tech support was no help either), some backlight bleeding, and a very annoying pink/purple hue if you are looking at the lcd from anything other than directly ahead. The Original rev is A00, Mexico, November 2004, and the replacement is A00, Mexico, December 2004. The replacement does not have any dead/stuck pixels, the pink/purple hue is there, but not a factor unless you are at considerably more extreme viewing angle, but the backlighting is terrible. I've tried to "rub it out" as others have suggested. The original responded better to it... the replacement is awful. Looks like I will see what monitor number 3 has to offer.As far as talking to Dell. Yes I've had to wait and deal with English as a second language barriers but they have been nice, patient, and have dealt with this professionally. Fed-ex 'ing and providing return shipping should be expected, but is not always the norm with other companies so it is one less thing for me to gripe about and it is appreciated. The crap-shoot for an acceptable monitor is made easier by the fact that they do bring me one before I have to send one back, and after placing my order I was aware it may come to this, so I'll take it all in stride. No reason to be that upset yet... hell, I can always get a refund if I get too frustrated. The replacement is on the left and the original is on the right. You can also see some of the pink/purple hue in the top right of the right side monitor... even in the dark. It is very annoying to deal with... glad to see not all of them look like that. 585227857[/snapback] The one on the left (your replacement) looks EXACTLY like my first one. I took a pic of my original and posted it. Although I borrwed the camera from a friend and it was a cheap 1.2 mp camera so the pic did'nt come out to well. But I swear that looks identical to mine. Although mine was a rev A00 from november 2004 and not december. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585232578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkinzer Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Fixed.Looks good. Aprox. How many inches wider is the 2005FPW then that 17 Inch? About 2-3? 585232548[/snapback] About 4" wider. I was kinda disappointed in the height, because I figured a 20.1" would be taller than a 17". But, I guess that is the sacrifice you make for the WS. I guess that if it was any taller, then it would have to be wider to maintain the 16:10 aspect ratio. It would be awesome if it was 2" taller and 3" wider, but I am extremely happy overall though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585232678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkinzer Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 What do you 2005FPW owners have your monitor brightness set to? Coming from a CRT, I feel like my eyes are going to bleed at 10/100. What should I tweak in my ATI Color Settings? Gamma, brightness or contrast? I have played with all of them a little, but I can't seem to get the best balance of vibrance and brightness. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585232762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxkrnxstylezxx Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 haha me too, so bright Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585232910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 yea.....give it 2 days, you will get used to the brightnees, first day i got a headache, it was blinding, second day i was half good, and ive been good since then Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585233404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfive19 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 support@dell.com doesn't work. anyone else know how to email them? I'd really rather not sit on the phone. I have some backlight issues. Just got the monitor today. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585233725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemdaggett Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 What do you 2005FPW owners have your monitor brightness set to? Coming from a CRT, I feel like my eyes are going to bleed at 10/100.What should I tweak in my ATI Color Settings? Gamma, brightness or contrast? I have played with all of them a little, but I can't seem to get the best balance of vibrance and brightness. 585232762[/snapback] I've got mine at 50 on both brightness and contrast. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585233967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhaskew Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 What do you 2005FPW owners have your monitor brightness set to? Coming from a CRT, I feel like my eyes are going to bleed at 10/100.What should I tweak in my ATI Color Settings? Gamma, brightness or contrast? I have played with all of them a little, but I can't seem to get the best balance of vibrance and brightness. 585232762[/snapback] haha me too, so bright 585232910[/snapback] yea.....give it 2 days, you will get used to the brightnees, first day i got a headache, it was blinding, second day i was half good, and ive been good since then 585233404[/snapback] I posted this on some other forums, this is what I did to resolve the issues of it being to bright hooked via DVI, since all you can adjust is brightness, not contrast :) Cheers Some of you have been saying that this monitor is to bright. I for one agree... When I unboxed it, turned it on, whoamo! it was way to bright... So I turned the brightness down to zero, but to no avail...My resolution for this was to go to Color Settings, turn each color down to 70, then turn brightness back up to 23... My colors are still vivd/accurate and all I can say is WOW to this thing, it replaced a 20" Cornerstone CRT (Gateway used these for awhile)... I have tried both D-SUB and DVI-D connections and the DVI-D is far better. I turned cleartype on, and that helps a lot for me. I then used the cleartype tweaking tool provided by MS (I also use this on my ACER noteboox, 15.4" LCD) and wow, the improvments. I have played HalfLife 2 with this at it streached the game perfectly, no ghosting what so ever. I am really happy I got this monitor, I also have much more real estate for when I am doing image editing and web design, I can actually look at code and a real time preview side by side now! All in all, I am glad I got this monitor it has helped me out... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585233985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxkrnxstylezxx Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Ah that works, except I put the brightness at 100, because I guess I'm getting used to it. Still like 40% of the original brightness. Also, what is cleartype? Thanks Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585234534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmark327 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 It's a special LCD antialiasing available in XP under display->appearance->effects There's a tool you can use to play around with settings here http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/1.htm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585234573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platypus Stan Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 support@dell.com doesn't work. anyone else know how to email them? I'd really rather not sit on the phone. I have some backlight issues. Just got the monitor today.585233725[/snapback] As far as I know, as of just a couple weeks ago, you can no longer send direct emails to Dell support. There are "email support" options on their website, but they require a service tag number (and monitors don't come with one). Of course, phone support asks for a service tag too... and good luck finding somone who has a clue what to do when you say you didn't get one.Come to think of it, you might want to try this: Michael_Dell@dell.com Last I heard, that really is his email address and he does answer emails. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585234666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IK47 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Yes, Dell cross-ships replacement parts. They charge your credit card if you fail to return the original within some number of days. 585227935[/snapback] 10 Days. They bill you if you don't Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585234685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yayo Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 is it normal for dead/stuck pixels to appear after a couple of days of use? 585232372[/snapback] Not really "normal", pixels will appear/die after the warm up phase of the monitor. I got my 2001FP the other day, 100% perfect pixels. 30 minutes into it I have a dead one. If they survive this warm up phase, then they should remain fine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585234940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishare Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I am happy with my new DELL 2005FPW, but I feel that it is still one step short of a perfect monitor. A small remote control would be nice! So I don't have to go up to the monitor everytime I need to change input source between DVI, S-video and Composite.... or to activate PIP, PBP function! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585235990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
siaopao Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I have a 25% off Dell LCD coupon that i don't need - Got 2, just bought 1 myself.. You have received the following special offer from Dell: 25% off any Dell Flat Panel Please use the promotional code provided below toward your purchases at http://www.dell.com/shopnow. Your discount code is: 1NMFL0BNQJ16SQ (expired today) Have Fun!!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585237609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowleqe Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Not really "normal", pixels will appear/die after the warm up phase of the monitor. I got my 2001FP the other day, 100% perfect pixels. 30 minutes into it I have a dead one.If they survive this warm up phase, then they should remain fine. 585234940[/snapback] i sholud rephrase, after a couple of warm ups do the dead/stuck pixels appear, e.g. normal use Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585238106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmark327 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I am happy with my new DELL 2005FPW, but I feel that it is still one step short of a perfect monitor. A small remote control would be nice! So I don't have to go up to the monitor everytime I need to change input source between DVI, S-video and Composite.... or to activate PIP, PBP function! 585235990[/snapback] Sounds like you could use the exercise. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585238270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfive19 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 After weighing my options, I've decided to keep it for now. It's got a 3 year warranty and the backlight issue on mine is not nearly as bad as others. I also have no stuck/dead pixels thank God. I will wait until Dell gets its sh*t together and send it back once all these problems are ironed out. It's seriously the nicest monitor I've ever seen. Anyone contemplating it, wait until they have their obvious production problems fixed and get it. You won't regret it. thanks to everyone in this thread for helping me out. -redfive Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585239565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yayo Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 i sholud rephrase, after a couple of warm ups do the dead/stuck pixels appear, e.g. normal use 585238106[/snapback] No, they shouldn't. If they do, you'd be pretty unlucky. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585240156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishare Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Sounds like you could use the exercise. 585238270[/snapback] Sounds like you should go back to live in the stone age.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585241007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch19 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Replacement LCD arrived today and it is so much worse than the first. Originally I had a dead/stuck pixel, a concave effect which I couldn't get rid of (tech support was no help either), some backlight bleeding, and a very annoying pink/purple hue if you are looking at the lcd from anything other than directly ahead. The Original rev is A00, Mexico, November 2004, and the replacement is A00, Mexico, December 2004. The replacement does not have any dead/stuck pixels, the pink/purple hue is there, but not a factor unless you are at considerably more extreme viewing angle, but the backlighting is terrible. I've tried to "rub it out" as others have suggested. The original responded better to it... the replacement is awful. Looks like I will see what monitor number 3 has to offer.As far as talking to Dell. Yes I've had to wait and deal with English as a second language barriers but they have been nice, patient, and have dealt with this professionally. Fed-ex 'ing and providing return shipping should be expected, but is not always the norm with other companies so it is one less thing for me to gripe about and it is appreciated. The crap-shoot for an acceptable monitor is made easier by the fact that they do bring me one before I have to send one back, and after placing my order I was aware it may come to this, so I'll take it all in stride. No reason to be that upset yet... hell, I can always get a refund if I get too frustrated. The replacement is on the left and the original is on the right. You can also see some of the pink/purple hue in the top right of the right side monitor... even in the dark. It is very annoying to deal with... glad to see not all of them look like that. 585227857[/snapback] OK... here we go.... returning the above mentioned ones and placed a new order which saves me another $40. Total is now $521.75. Let's hope this one is acceptable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585241025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextstep OS X Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 2005FPW is going for $600 US(with coupon) is that a good buy? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246836-dell-ultrasharp-2005fpw-20-widescreen-lcd/page/25/#findComment-585241852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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