blackflash Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I've seen alot of these around the Internet and I thought about putting one for neowin. Give a reason why you chose the person. I think the detroit fans are at fault because one of them threw that bottle and the flying chair did not make them look any better, anyone would do what he did! Just put yourself in his shoes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcoffee Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Fans should never try to hit Players or Disrespect them at all. BUT RON ARTEST THROWING PUNCHES @ Fans. All I know is that if my boy was being punched by a Athlete, I'd be throwing punches back and chairs and beer and popcorn and will look for revenge when they come back into Town. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung1616 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Ok I voted for Jenifer Lopez, if she had been there half dressed no one would have had time to fight. Lol Cody Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted November 21, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2004 Ok I voted for Jenifer Lopez, if she had been there half dressed no one would have had time to fight. LolCody 584959590[/snapback] Same. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytehouse Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I voted Artest, but I think that the fans are at fault as well. Though Artest is more responsible for the the brawl than the fans... If the fan wouldn't have thrown the soda cup at Artest he wouldn't have jumped up swinging, but he is the professional and when you are a profesional performer/entertainer, for lack of a better description, you should have a thick skin. Being a Detroiter myself, I am a bit ashamed at the free for all attitude that came from the fans. There's no reason that the fight should not have stopped with Artest and that one guy that he initially punched. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflash Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 darn it, I knew shouldnt have put her lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Fans, players, and security. Security was non-existant...how did a fan even get onto the floor to square off with Artest? If I'm Artest, I'm hitting that dude. The floor is the players' only safezone, that is their territory, same as the stands for the fans. He shouldn't have went into the stands but the fans shouldn't have thrown anything either. The NBA is going to crap. It's been going on for awhile now and they've done nothing about it...they deserve this. They always hype all of this garbage and we, as fans, put these guys up on the pedestal. They are just athletes, nothing else. They mean nothing in the big picture. And fans take this garbage too far as well. It's a game, get over it. As Michael Jordan once said, "Nobody is bigger than the game, not you, not Michael Jordan, nobody." Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcoffee Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I agree that the fan shouldn't have thrown that beer or cup whatever @ him while he was lying down, but IF I was @ the game and saw Artest, Jackson, O'neal throwing punches @ my fellow fans (I'm not a Detroit fan, just saying it into perspective), just imagine one of your friends being punched or thrown down by somebody, you know he'd have your back. This makes me wonder if athletes should go through college and receive a degree before entering the NBA (<--- that was a joke everyone). LOL; sorry I'm just a little stressed out to see Professionals throwing punches @ fans. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Well, all I know is Artest was cool, laying down on the scorer's table, relaxing after the altercation with Wallace. This never would have happened if the dude didn't throw the water bottle, period. He fouled Wallace hard, Wallace pushed him, and he backed away. Athletes really have issues today. Look at Clemson and South Carolina. Think they didn't try to emulate the NBA game? Too much of this thug image, it's corroding the sports. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflash Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 The other reason I think that contributed to this was the fact that there was barely any security officers. Someone could have gotten killed or worse..mugged(did I get my priorities wrong?) just joking but seriously someone could have really hurt someone so thats looking on the bright side. but Im looking forward for their next game together which convieniently is on christmas day lol I have gotta to watch that! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflash Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 Same. :D 584959614[/snapback] Well, all I know is Artest was cool, laying down on the scorer's table, relaxing after the altercation with Wallace. This never would have happened if the dude didn't throw the water bottle, period. He fouled Wallace hard, Wallace pushed him, and he backed away. Athletes really have issues today. Look at Clemson and South Carolina. Think they didn't try to emulate the NBA game? Too much of this thug image, it's corroding the sports. 584959735[/snapback] What? there was another fight? I dont watch football so fill me in on it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D!ABOL!C Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Ben Wallace for being a baby, you already lost so you go and start a riot, nice job. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 What? there was another fight? I dont watch football so fill me in on it 584959773[/snapback] Yeah, there was a pre-game fight in college football. Then they realy tee'd off on each other at the end of the game. Classless. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflash Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 can you get me any links to the fight? Im not trying to get off topic or anything... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvbfan Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Spoiled brats, plain and simple. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOXOMOXOA Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 it had to be that idiot in the stands Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joasjdoajsd Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Since I'm from MI...I have to support my Detroiters on this one....if Artest hadn't been do dam dramatic, then that guy wouldn't have thrown that drink at him. If I were that guy...I would have done the SAME thing. ...and when Artest could have just shrugged it off or even stopped playing in that game, he climbed into the stands and punched that guy. I don't think it was fair that Ben Wallice and Billips were suspended though. Man if I were one of the people Artest punched...he would be having lawsuits comming out his butt by now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflash Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 Billups was suspended? thats news to me I thought it was rasheed wallace Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584959984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joasjdoajsd Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I think both of them got suspended...not sure though :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584960123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflash Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 I think only Ben wallace and rasheed wallace got suspended from the pistons Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584962690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 can you get me any links to the fight? Im not trying to get off topic or anything... 584959891[/snapback] Clemson-South Carolina Brawl On Field http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=243250228 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584962713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflash Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 thanks bro, what kind of morons would try hurting someone else in football gear? are they tryng to hurt them? lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584962756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeman Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Artest he was way out of control Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584962764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinner Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I look at it two ways. 1st -- Ben Walllace overreated to a foul that should have been shrugged off. I believe being handled the entire game finally got to most of the Pistons and caused a lot of hostility. 2nd -- The fans. If the fans would have not thrown things at Artest, he would not have gone into the stands and everything would have been settled between the players. You can look at it a lot of different ways that I do. I see them all, but I honestly think it boils down to Ben Wallace. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584962783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflash Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 Yea I agree with you sinner but dont you mean overeacted not overreated, your making it sound like he just whipped out a buffet when he got fouled lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/246931-who-was-responsible/#findComment-584962796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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