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Grand Master

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I'm surprised they have not already given it a graphics overhaul considering its 3 years old and other MMO's like EVE and Second Life are improving there engines. Afterall it is a Subscription and if they bumped the graphics they could get a few more eye-candy seekers.

I'm happy to keep playing as it is however. I love the Art Style and for me that makes up for the low poly counts even if I am running with a wasted 8800GTX lol

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Indeed you do. While I like the art style. They could do with bumping up the polly counts on mobs as well as bosses and improve the textures.

And risk the chance that some of the millions of people that play the game and are happy with the game, might suddenly find that their system can't support new gee-whiz-neato graphics updates? Yeah, good plan.

Grand Master

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And risk the chance that some of the millions of people that play the game and are happy with the game, might suddenly find that their system can't support new gee-whiz-neato graphics updates? Yeah, good plan.

With EVE people can use both game engines at once on the same servers.

So older generation computer owners can run the older engine and play with people running the newer engine which has updated graphics. Blizzard could do the same thing by updating the client engine. In reality the clients only send information back its not like the engine being used to view that content will screw with someone elses perception of what the server is telling there client. Just like viewing a website with many different browsers. As Blizzard would be the ones making all the clients they know what to expect and like EVE can program for any oddities between client traffic.

So yes it is a good plan.

Grand Master

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And risk the chance that some of the millions of people that play the game and are happy with the game, might suddenly find that their system can't support new gee-whiz-neato graphics updates? Yeah, good plan.

How about a new graphical setting called...

VERY HIGH!

:rolleyes:

LotRO supports it (look at their super rez textures) why blizzard can't I don't know.

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Prosidius

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WoTLK is getting a graphics improvement but I agree that something should be done. Like an above poster said, maybe have a very high setting(and give a warning for all the idiots that try it on there old pc's).

Grand Master

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God why is eveyone obsessed with graphics. Wow looks the way it does as thats the intened graphical "style" of hte game its not meant to be a photo realistic effort.

Id rather we had a whole load of new content than a new set of high res textures or some mince like that. Which btw would probs increase wow`s hdd usage up a few gigabytes and in turn again mean some folk wouldnt / couldnt install it.

The sparkle of pretty gfx is only the first thing you go to in a game when ur gettin into it, for a few days u,ll be impressed then the novelty wears off as you get deeper into the gameplay at which point ur either hooked or realised youve bought a turd.

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Yeah because good graphics and a good game are mutually exclusive....not!

I agree with you that pretty graphics alone do not make for a good game, but WoW has long established a formulae for a sucessful MMO experience and game.

It would be naive to think that future gamers are going to continue to choose WoW over some of the impressive MMOs emerging next year especially when newer games can easily replicate this formula whilst offering ever increasing options for the player coupled with the graphics.

I'm also pretty confident the number of users who could afford the extra HDD space for graphical improvements would vastly outweigh those who do not.

Grand Master

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The sparkle of pretty gfx is only the first thing you go to in a game when ur gettin into it, for a few days u,ll be impressed then the novelty wears off as you get deeper into the gameplay at which point ur either hooked or realised youve bought a turd.

What's that got to do with WoW?

Blizzard's idea is to have it the way it is.. so you can run it on a low end machine, high end machine, and mac etc..

Let me put this again:

You still have HIGH, but then you have a new setting called VERY HIGH.

No one looses out.

God why is eveyone obsessed with graphics. Wow looks the way it does as thats the intened graphical "style" of hte game its not meant to be a photo realistic effort.

I know, I've mentioned that before but the game looks like it's aging badly. Paper mario has a simplistic look to it. But it still the manages to have some great textures.

Id rather we had a whole load of new content than a new set of high res textures or some mince like that.

To make textures you only need the artists. For new content you need programmers, play testers, designers. Now why they can't fit that in to the schedual while the programmers are working on fixing the content I don't know.

Which btw would probs increase wow`s hdd usage up a few gigabytes and in turn again mean some folk wouldnt / couldnt install it.

Seriously if you can't afford a new HD you can't afford WoW.

Grand Master

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What's that got to do with WoW?

What hasnt it? Didnt you look at screens of wow and think "man that looks colourful bright and fun, the enviroments are nice etc etc i think i might give it a go once i find out more about gameplay"

I know, I've mentioned that before but the game looks like it's aging badly. Paper mario has a simplistic look to it. But it still the manages to have some great textures.

Couldnt the same be said for WOW, or does the fact Blizz wont up poly counts on 3D models compared to a 2D/3D game that would see less improvement annoy you?

To make textures you only need the artists. For new content you need programmers, play testers, designers. Now why they can't fit that in to the schedual while the programmers are working on fixing the content I don't know.

All of which Blizz have in abundance, and you dont just need artists for textures they too have to be coded in and optimized before programmers knock up a new set of gfx options and other tweaks to match the new textures. I.e why have high res textures on low res models. Not to mention the sheer volume of textures theyd need to go ack and incrase dpi / resolution on.

Seriously if you can't afford a new HD you can't afford WoW.

Well example, I was unemplyed for 6months I got ?180 a month to cloth feed and look after myself. I literally was able to pay my sub and no more. If id had to upgrade an HDD just to play the latest patch then I would of been ****ed as ?30-40 is still a lot of money to some people.

Im soz but the game looks fine to me, I dont worry about how it looks when Im playing wow at all. Im too busy doing other stuff, and tbh in many ways im still impressed by some of the gfx and scenery. If you wanta bad time try running wow on all its lowest gfx settings as I have been for 3 weeks now after my gfx card packed in playing Crysis.

Grand Master

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What hasnt it? Didnt you look at screens of wow and think "man that looks colourful bright and fun, the enviroments are nice etc etc i think i might give it a go once i find out more about gameplay"

No.

I originally though: "Man, this looks like tripe but I'll give it a shot." Thankfully it was worth it. I pre-ordered it and picked up a beta key.

Couldnt the same be said for WOW, or does the fact Blizz wont up poly counts on 3D models compared to a 2D/3D game that would see less improvement annoy you?

Missing my point but that's internet debate for you.

All of which Blizz have in abundance, and you dont just need artists for textures they too have to be coded in and optimized before programmers knock up a new set of gfx options and other tweaks to match the new textures. I.e why have high res textures on low res models. Not to mention the sheer volume of textures theyd need to go ack and incrase dpi / resolution on.

Granted I made it seem a little simple. But If Mythic (a small company at the time) can do it with DAoC so can Blizzard. They have an abundance of talent. It's not like they are putting it to good use at the moment anyway. The new dungeon was simply more of the same.

Well example, I was unemplyed for 6months I got ?180 a month to cloth feed and look after myself. I literally was able to pay my sub and no more. If id had to upgrade an HDD just to play the latest patch then I would of been ****ed as ?30-40 is still a lot of money to some people.

Should have spent less time playing and more looking for a new job tbh:/:/

Anyway as I said, LotRO makes it an OPTIONAL install as many people can't run the settings at a moderate framerate.

Im soz but the game looks fine to me, I dont worry about how it looks when Im playing wow at all. Im too busy doing other stuff, and tbh in many ways im still impressed by some of the gfx and scenery.

That's great for you. You may be easily impressed. But compare WoW to the future MMOs like Warhammer & Conan and guess which will catch the eye quicker.

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FudgeMonkey

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And risk the chance that some of the millions of people that play the game and are happy with the game, might suddenly find that their system can't support new gee-whiz-neato graphics updates? Yeah, good plan.

I agree

Just look at the GFX overhaul between Everquest and EverquestII.

also Bliz would be loosing out on a massive potential in not releasing WOW 2 which would pretty much do the same thing ;)

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gregb0b

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AARRGGGHHHH

"Optional" install and setting!!! :)

PS.

I've just re subscribed :) woooooo

Can anyone reccommend any good mods/addons please :):):)

Nothing. There are so many trojans/keyloggers going around its ridiculous. There have been reports from various TRUSTED websites that some trojans even make it through. For example:

http://www.mmo-champion.com (Read about it there)

http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthr...?threadid=13868 (Here too)

Grand Master

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No.

I originally though: "Man, this looks like tripe but I'll give it a shot." Thankfully it was worth it. I pre-ordered it and picked up a beta key.

And that is obviously where you amd I differ. I saw it thot, ooh that looks like a beefed up and interesting game based on the WC3 art style and universe this could be good.

Missing my point but that's internet debate for you.

Without sounded like some trivial 2 bit forum troll. I think you may have missed mine. Paper Mario is delibretly 2d and a bit nah looking to reflect the art direction and premise of the game. Wow hasnt had major graphic updates for the same reason. Its still meant to resemble the WC3 universe the one game that many (non hardcore or older PC gaming) fans remember i.e most recent release outside WOW for the game universe.

Granted I made it seem a little simple. But If Mythic (a small company at the time) can do it with DAoC so can Blizzard. They have an abundance of talent. It's not like they are putting it to good use at the moment anyway. The new dungeon was simply more of the same.

What works for one company cant always be applied to another. Yes Blizz is bigger and has more resources espec with this Activis deal. You say they arent putting it to good use and that the new dungeon seemed samey. Well what do you want improved graphics and the "same" dungeon formula, or no major graphic updates and new and interesting gameplay elements to combat these "samey" dungeons.

Should have spent less time playing and more looking for a new job tbh.

What gives you the right to make comments like that? Do you know my circumstances or the level to which I was playing WOW vs the time I spent job hunting? No. I work in a specialist field within the design industry which see`s many more applicants than job postings and finding work after losing long term employment proved to a be a bit of a pain in the backside.

Grand Master

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And that is obviously where you amd I differ. I saw it thot, ooh that looks like a beefed up and interesting game based on the WC3 art style and universe this could be good.

I played WC3 once and found it immensely dull. That maybe why.

Paper Mario is delibretly 2d and a bit nah looking to reflect the art direction and premise of the game. Wow hasnt had major graphic updates for the same reason. Its still meant to resemble the WC3 universe the one game that many (non hardcore or older PC gaming) fans remember i.e most recent release outside WOW for the game universe.

It can still resemble the WC3 universe with a graphical update. Hell blizz can turn the lore how they like ('lol spaceship'). What's wrong with making something have a bit more candy.

Well what do you want improved graphics and the "same" dungeon formula, or no major graphic updates and new and interesting gameplay elements to combat these "samey" dungeons.

Artists aren't game designers. Yes they will likely have a look in but nothing more than 'proof reading' so to speak.

What gives you the right to make comments like that?

You brought it up. Don't bring it up if you don't want someone to comment. Obviously this is going no where so lets leave it at that.

Nothing. There are so many trojans/keyloggers going around its ridiculous. There have been reports from various TRUSTED websites that some trojans even make it through. For example:

http://www.mmo-champion.com (Read about it there)

http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthr...?threadid=13868 (Here too)

Woah there Captn' Kneejerk! It appears hackers have circumvented the servers where the addons are hosted (WoWInterface and the old ui.worldofwar.net). Stick to WoWace for the time being and download only the zips. Don't run anything that holds and .exe in it.

Grand Master

Argi

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Those complaining about outdated grahpics should look at some of the screenshots of the next expansion. While it's not a complete overhaul, the textures being used are significantly higher resolution than those currently while still retaining the overall feel.

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Nothing revolutionary, but an improvment over what's in currently.

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