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[treemonster]

Is that you recording? The games looks like it's running at constant 60 fps, while in a raid, and recording the video in HD. I'm using a nvidia 460, and my framerate drops to around 30 in 25 mans with max graphics, if i tried to record HD video at the same time it would slow to a crawl.

Hardware isn't anything special: i760, 8 GB ram, radeon 6870. Warcraft runs from a raid-0 set of SSD drives, and I record to a pair of cheap western digital drives in raid-0.

I have v-sync turned on because I hate tearing, and I'm probably recording at 60 FPS so it doesn't make sense to try and play higher than that because fraps will just throttle

your frame rate anyway.

The only thing that sucks about that setup is that you burn about 4 GB per minute of video.

460 apparently runs wow as well or better than a 6870 with an intel core i cpu according to a wow review on tom's. do you have shadows on ultra? turning mine down to low and i get 60fps vsynced in org at primetime.

[the evn show]

460 apparently runs wow as well or better than a 6870 with an intel core i cpu according to a wow review on tom's. do you have shadows on ultra? turning mine down to low and i get 60fps vsynced in org at primetime.

Everything is on ultra including shadows, multisampling set to 2x (there's apparently some weirdness with water if you set it higher than that on certain graphics cards, I had issues at 8x but it's fine at 2x). There are some settings you can increase in your config.wtf that aren't accesible in game and I've jacked those up a bit too. farclip, horizonfarclip, skylod, groundeffectdist, groundeffectdensity, and a couple of others I can't remember off the top of my head.

[treemonster]

Everything is on ultra including shadows, multisampling set to 2x (there's apparently some weirdness with water if you set it higher than that on certain graphics cards, I had issues at 8x but it's fine at 2x). There are some settings you can increase in your config.wtf that aren't accesible in game and I've jacked those up a bit too. farclip, horizonfarclip, skylod, groundeffectdist, groundeffectdensity, and a couple of others I can't remember off the top of my head.

meh i'm jsut repeating wha thte tom's review said, keep in mind htey benched on a flight path, not in the truly demanding area of org or sw at primetime. they also tested using a oc'ed 980x, so lolz yeah.

i could probably stand to turn up shadows a bit.a sit was the only place it was turning into a slideshow was in isle of conquest with everyone in stuff in the boss room dpsing. and it was still totally "playable"(i'll use that loosely here because it would be terrible if it was an fps or i had to do much more than assist then spam 2)

i only "wanted" higher fps in org. i was able to spin the camera continuously and pick out details/no obvious fps loss. but i still do get the inexplicable stutter in org for several seconds at a time.

that's on an i7 920 / 480 gtx all stock, which is probably overkill at any setting for the most part. i think what would give me more fps in those situations is an OC on the CPu or an upgrade to something like a 950. it's not high on my priority list though. i also run some heavy addons, so not sure if that impacts performance an d load times for me or not. thinking of ruling them out for load times this week sometime.

i'm just saying that according to tom's, 460 1gb is the cheapest card you can max out iq settings in wow with. and apparently beats the mod-high end amd cards. again according to tom's.

[the evn show]

I have no real opinion on hardware: I bought the stuff that the guy at the compu-hut said would be good, didn't worry too much about the price (but didn't want to spend more than a a year of racing would cost) and it's been working well. It seems to consistently stay at 60 frames per second in warcraft with the settings maxed at 1080p. If something less expensive can do the same: I recommend you buy that instead. If other hardware can offer better performance, and for some reason you need it, by all means get it. I'd rather play on a mac but Windows is the best platform for warcraft right now.

[treemonster]

anyways, i tried posting on the wow tech forum about my bsod post since the first page had lots of blue posts yesterday. turns out wow had some connectivity issues today so my thread dropped 6 pages within 2 hours. bumped it with some new info and it's back down to page 3 with no new posts. kind of annoyed since other people are getting blue posts with less info covered in stickies.

i was very throrough with included info so maybe it's too tl;dr or something. idk. i stopped short of including my dxdiag because frankly they're such a PITA to scroll past, and i hate them when trouble shooting on fansite forums.

other threads with similar issue are getting posts where mine is not too. :angry:

[LittleNeutrino Veteran]

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[treemonster]

wow nice.

[Tharp Daddy]

So, after playing on alliance side for a little I've decided I'm a Horde lover. Everyone on the alliance side just looked so.. boring. There's a ton more diversity in looks on the horde side, IMO.

[the evn show]

Al'akir to 5% last night so we're all shopping around for places to park park our alts. My mage will be going

gnome to replace my paladin who came horde side. Alt raiding one day per week should be fun.

"Casual" (low progression, no idea how many hours they play) guilds are so cute: they have all these huge

requirements that will do nothing to further there goal. If they'd spend half as much time raiding as they did

on looking at guild applications they'd be so much better off.

[treemonster]

Al'akir to 5% last night so we're all shopping around for places to park park our alts. My mage will be going

gnome to replace my paladin who came horde side. Alt raiding one day per week should be fun.

"Casual" (low progression, no idea how many hours they play) guilds are so cute: they have all these huge

requirements that will do nothing to further there goal. If they'd spend half as much time raiding as they did

on looking at guild applications they'd be so much better off.

reminds me of some of these super organized swtor guilds with more rules than members. talking about being happy with 50-100 core members and telling people they have to get approval for daily groups or they'll get kicked for having cliques. saying they RP evil then having strict rules on respecting other guilds even on the other faction or something.

so called guild saying they will be hardcore world first raiding pve pvp guild that will roflstomp everyone everywhere and list region first in wow without ever playing wow retail together and bragging about wow private server boss kills on their front pages and demanding proof from applicants of pve achivements.

applications are nice but really only 10% of getting to know a new member. i think they get a few details out of the way, but they don't compete with spending a week chatting and playing together in game. the most improtant part of an app to me is the usual playtime, and matching that with the rest of the guild. everything else is mostly incidental.

what the most hilarious though imho, in every mmo, especially pre launch, is special interest guilds. you know the gay only, female only, religion or skin colour only guilds. as if you're automatically going to like each other based on these entirely superficial things. i've always had a good mix of every superficial trait you can think of in my guild and it never affected how we all got along together at all.

oh and back to teh RP guilds, wher eyou have to read dozens of tl;dr articles about backstories fro every member of the guild and adhere to all of that in teh strictest sense if you want to participate and god forbid you go outside of the mary sue spectrum or something not strictly outlined in the lore of the IP in your in game RP. for example all RP ers hate klingon style RP. don't think i'll take that angle to swtor though, then again, if there can be jackie chan kung fu(tera kasi) there can be klingons in some form.

pvp guilds that swtich to pve and fail utterly at it with full arena epics far above what's eed for entry level raiding also make me lolz. that's the end of the story for my tbc pvp guild. months of banging their head against 1700 rating ending in two weeks of failing at karazahn. in context of them telling our pve sister guild more or less they suck because pve is easymode and pvp takes so much skill.

this is why i stick to low key, low organization social oriented guilds with realistic goals. i've been in top guilds on my mmo server that were very loose and recruited more on personality than anything else. and i've seen more so called hardcore this or that guilds fail at everything 9/10 times wasting their time on over organizing and making complex rules and talking big about how they're going to dominate everything and never delivering or blowing minor victories out of proportion.

[the evn show]

News of the Tol Barad honor nerf and impending bridge nerfs have made the rounds: horde made the first successful defense of Tol Barad since the 27th when win trading started.

The 265 rep is nice for winning, but damnit I need daily quests. it'd be nice if we could hang on until raids reset so I can be done with that place for the week (save for 3 days of peninsula daily quests).

Going to blow Valor points on gloves at midnight so that's one less reason I have to care about the horrible little raid there. Next up is pants and then I can forget about the whole zone for 6 months.

[Alladaskill17]

this is wow loading up on my ssd. does this seem right to you evn? (in advance sorry about ht ecrackle, you may want to turn it down, though it's not too loud)

This cannot be right for an SSD, can it?? I logged onto my brothers new MacBook, which is a regular HDD, possibly even at 5400rpm and it took ~10 seconds to load from character screen to Orgrimmar.

[treemonster]

it seems to load faster near the cata portals. and i doubt a regular hdd on osx OR windows is going to load org in 10 seconds. seriously.

News of the Tol Barad honor nerf and impending bridge nerfs have made the rounds: horde made the first successful defense of Tol Barad since the 27th when win trading started.

The 265 rep is nice for winning, but damnit I need daily quests. it'd be nice if we could hang on until raids reset so I can be done with that place for the week (save for 3 days of peninsula daily quests).

Going to blow Valor points on gloves at midnight so that's one less reason I have to care about the horrible little raid there. Next up is pants and then I can forget about the whole zone for 6 months.

yeah i found that out after i got to the bridge. ended up getting ported to uldum of all places doing (trying) the bridge exploit.

[Alladaskill17]

it seems to load faster near the cata portals. and i doubt a regular hdd on osx OR windows is going to load org in 10 seconds. seriously.

Well I'm only going by what I did an hour ago, granted it's a low population server so less models etc (if that matters) not trying to start anything just stating. Regardless it was nowhere near the 20 almost 30 seconds that video showed.

[treemonster]

without actually measuring the load time, it can be really hard to tell and totally subjective. that load time is actually about 50% faster estimated time vs my 7200rpm sata 2 hdd and roughly 50% time vs evn's hdd load video. you'll notice how fast the toon load up once the load screen finishes. believe me i had to watch evn's videos before i was convinced ssd was that much faster.

yea for an ssd i think it is slow, but still twice as fast as a a fairly fast hdd. outside of that one spot in org loads are alot faster. that's like busiest spot on my server horde side. low pop it says but it seems active.

btw, don';t look at it like it's an argument or a fight, it's a discussion. :)

[Slane]

Anyone who race change from X race to X race loose rep?

I was exalted with all factions. Raced changed from Undead to Goblin and my Undercity rep went down to revered. Same thing happen with a troll to goblin. Anyone else?

[treemonster]

interesting. ben thinking of race changing from belf to goblin for the racials. don't want that to happen. not that belf rep is useful for anything.

[the evn show]

not that belf rep is useful for anything.

It's overpowered for cho'gall but pretty much crap for the rest of tier 11 unless you're a healer with bad gear.

Anyone who race change from X race to X race loose rep?

I was exalted with all factions. Raced changed from Undead to Goblin and my Undercity rep went down to revered. Same thing happen with a troll to goblin. Anyone else?

Your 'new home' and 'old home' factions swap. there's a full list of changes on the page.

[Slane]

Your 'new home' and 'old home' factions swap. there's a full list of changes on the page.

I know that, and I wasn't putting two and two together. I thought I had grinded out Bilgewater rep before I race changed, apparently I didn't. :( I feel like a dumbass.

[treemonster]

It's overpowered for cho'gall but pretty much crap for the rest of tier 11 unless you're a healer with bad gear.

interesting. how so? i lolzily ginded up to exalted thinking i could get cheaper epic flying from it. what kind of cool stuff does it give for cata, and where can i get it?

[Tharp Daddy]

So, i found out why my connection has been so shoddy lately in WoW. It seems that Time Warner has put in Traffic Shaping, which means that during the peak hours (or the times i'll be playing), all bandwidth for video, audio, etc is throttled severely. This effects WoW which leads to a horrible ping, constant lagspikes, and DCs. It makes it so i can pretty much not raid or pvp during peak hours. Does anyone happen to know of a (preferably free) proxy or what not i could use? I was looking at this article but sadly i don't have a computer i could use that's not connected to my ISP.

[treemonster]

there a couple game tunneling proxy services out there, unfortunately i forget their names. i'll ask around though, a couple firneds have troubleshooted other games with these services and recommended them.

[the evn show]

interesting. how so?

Nevermind, I read "rep" as "racial". It never occured to me that someone would consider reputation rewards for a character.

. It seems that Time Warner has put in Traffic Shaping, which means that during the peak hours (or the times i'll be playing), all bandwidth for video, audio, etc is throttled severely. This effects WoW which leads to a horrible ping, constant lagspikes, and DCs. It makes it so i can pretty much not raid or pvp during peak hours.

This has pretty much ended the raiding career of one of our tanks - He just can't do the job any more because his connection sucks.

it's been going on for a while now and it's one of the leading causes of our wipes right now.

And just for further reference on the rep thing: I had my goblin rep at exalted and undercity at honored (I played in classic, rep grinds were hard). Race changing set my undercity up to exalted and goblin down to honored.

[Slane]

So, i found out why my connection has been so shoddy lately in WoW. It seems that Time Warner has put in Traffic Shaping, which means that during the peak hours (or the times i'll be playing), all bandwidth for video, audio, etc is throttled severely. This effects WoW which leads to a horrible ping, constant lagspikes, and DCs. It makes it so i can pretty much not raid or pvp during peak hours. Does anyone happen to know of a (preferably free) proxy or what not i could use? I was looking at this article but sadly i don't have a computer i could use that's not connected to my ISP.

Any place has an article on this? I use TW (Roadrunner) and would like some more info.

[the evn show]

If you have a metric assload of ram (6 GB+) and play on a large screen with high quality settings you may be getting crashes or bits of stuttering in crowded places. This post about modifying the wow.exe file may be a solution for you.

It solved my crash-to-desktop issue, maybe it'll help your stuttering problem: some people posting in that thread have indicated as much.

I linked to the blue post that says "You won't get banned for this", you'll want to read over the entire thread which includes links to applications to enable use of more memory, some discussions about he risks, and people discussing the problems they've had/solved with it.

Your milage may vary and all that.