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Grand Master

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No ui details on there

There are, but maybe your browser didn't jump to the right post or something. Anyway:

It's a modification of TukUI, called Elv's UI: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17749-ElvsUI.html

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Ambroos

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Anyone know were I can download the lastest patch??

Standalone version.

Nowhere, it doesn't exist. If you have problems with the new launcher, just delete your complete game folder and download the installer from battle.net. With the new launcher system all your old data disks and downloaded patches became useless.

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Noveed

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The new built-in raid UI wasn't designed with 40-man raid groups in mind. Discuss.

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Ouch, Yikes my eyes hurt. Just out of interest how do you even see a boss in a raid with the raid frames like that?

In general hunters do not need Raid frames like that or that big, I would have expected a healer to have something like that. If you really want raid frames then I would recommend using Grid or something like that.

For my hunter I am using an edited version of

http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info14130-LUIv3.html

I have added "Custom" spells in the ForteXorist as it doesn't pick up on Improved Steady shot, Ready Set Aim and other Hunter procs/buffs.

In my opinion a raiding UI should be a clean as possible so the boss and boss area is visible.

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SMELTN

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Well I hit 60 last night!!! Got on my mount with my best friend and off we went to Outlands.

1 day 18hours playtime and I am at 60.. That recruit a friend is crazy.. I just wish I could get that triple xp all the way to 80!

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iKenndac

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Ouch, Yikes my eyes hurt. Just out of interest how do you even see a boss in a raid with the raid frames like that?

Haha, I was kinda trolling a bit with that. You can make each box smaller, and set it to only show healers, tanks, the group you're in, hide it completely etc. I'd just put together a group for the elemental invasion in Ironforge and found it quite funny!

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treemonster

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roflz at the mage video. still hasn't that been pretty much every class in endgame pve for a while now?

How does that differ from any other point in the WoTLK prior to 2pT10?

Can anybody answer some nerd questions about PC hardware wrt. warcarft?

I'm mostly happy with my PC now but had some minor questions about sound cards, network cards, and fraps.

i'm not completely up to date with wow as it relates to hardware these days, but maybe i can help.

sounds cards: don't know too much about them except they can be hit or miss. creative ones or ones that use creative tech can be bad, but ther are some good ones out there. unless you absolutely have to have the best sound and have a speaker system to really use it a fairly high vaolume, imho onboard HD or ac97 sound that comes with motherboards these days tends to be pretty damn good, on even really good speakers and headsets.

network cards: onboard gigbyte lan on motherboards have been all you really need for quite some time. i've seen people say that you might actually get more latency and network issues with a dedicated network card in gaming.

fraps: did quite a bit of frapsing wow in tbc. i recomend having a largeish dedicated hdd or partition for it with lots of free space. back in tbc i had aroun d66gb dedicated to fraps output files and i would often start editing the video together when i ran out of room(within about 2 days on average). fraps 3.0)(?) now records your own mic input in addition to vent, which is a great feature for a number of reasons depending on what kind of video you want to make, for example tutorial or demonstration videos where you want to talk about what you're doing in game while you do it. i don't use fraps very often but if you have any speicific questions about it i might be able to answer them. also, fraps recording drops the game to 30fps, which is really noticeable at first and takes a little time to get used to. try recording a few minutes of footage you'll throw out in a bg or in duels to get used to how it affects framerate and input lag.

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the evn show

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imho onboard HD or ac97 sound that comes with motherboards these days tends to be pretty damn good, on even really good speakers and headsets.

That's pretty much what I figured, especially when it comes to wow which can floor one core but won't put more than a 10% draw on any of your other cores. The few benchmarks I saw indicated a drop from 3% CPU use (of one core) down to ~1.5% which seemed pointless when you've got 7 logical processors basically at idle

network cards: onboard gigbyte lan on motherboards have been all you really need for quite some time. i've seen people say that you might actually get more latency and network issues with a dedicated network card in gaming.

I've heard that too but it seems really anecdotal. My latency from my computers to my home router over ethernet or wifi is <2ms - past that it seems like it'd be all up to my ISP and how it chooses to route my packets. Even if you could get a 10% drop in CPU usage (from one core) that still isn't going to help Warcraft which is essentially single threaded and running on it's own dedicated core.

Unless there's some magic it seems a $150 placebo.

now records your own mic input in addition to vent, which is a great feature for a number of reasons depending on what kind of video you want to make

That's the thing I wanted to get away from: fraps is recording everything and I'd rather have it only record game sounds.

Fact is 9 people bitching and moaning about the price of oreos probably isn't what people want to hear on a boss kill video. I'd much prefer just to have game sounds play - so people can hear boss emotes, cast sounds, etc.

also, fraps recording drops the game to 30fps, which is really noticeable at first and takes a little time to get used to. try recording a few minutes of footage you'll throw out in a bg or in duels to get used to how it affects framerate and input lag.

This is another issue I've had. On one trial it capped the frame rate to 30 FPS (you can see that in the FPS meter by the mini map) on my next one it managed to record at 30 FPS while letting me play at 60. I'm farily sure that's the "lock framerate" option but it doesn't appear to work reliably and I'm wondering if there's a trick to it.

The audio options seem "all or nothing". Snag all of the sound being played (with or without microphone) or none at all. I was kinda hoping that fine-grained audio control in Windows would let me have it just pick up warcraft sound. I was thinking I could setup some sort of weird hack (ie: music out through airplay to my stereo, vent out to through the integrated sound card, and warcraft sounds out through a pci soundcard (which seems possible) but I don't see a way for fraps to record the audio from just one of those. Any advice here?

The only other way I could see to do it would be using a separate multi-track audio capture program and then syncing them up after the fact (sort of like how real movies are recorded).

That seems like a lot of work for "watch me kill internet dragons" and probably why kill videos always have random background music in them. On the mac version of warcraft you can say "Capture video, with or without my UI showing, with or without game sound". That's all I really want, but I guess Windows users are getting shut out of that feature.

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treemonster

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well you can set fraps to record sound in stereo or multi channel, so that's an option for you to consider. if you have an editing program that supports that kind of thing, it might be used to get rid of the vent playback, but i have yet to try it myself.

as for recording without the ui, i got good at playing without my ui on at one point to make machinima videos more cinematic. it wasn't perfect though.

full version of fraps does indeed have the option to record at 60fps. as well there's an option to set your fps to record at. i think even with vsync on and showing fps in the in game meter it still reduce actual fps to 30 or w/e fraps is set to. it feels pretty noticeable, though i've never pfrapsed with vsync on because idon't tend to use it anyway so i can't be sure.

i should point out the biggest thing i learned about wow videos- unless you are doing a world first boss kill, no one outside your guild will care or watch your video. i used to post my videos that were on average 3-5 minutes long on my realm forums and people would be like oh that's so boring here watch this GOOD pvp video that's 15 minutes of some fire mage in vanilla one shotting lowbies with scorch to let the bodies hit the floor looped. pve videos tend to get even worse receptions, unless, again they are world firsts. even my own guild got annoyed with my video making, though they had other issues which explains that(one guy made a video using screenshots and half the veteran members couldn't stop talking about how it was better than my latest video in every way XD)

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treemonster

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does anyone know a good castbar for mages on curse? or a good skill bar add on?

i'm redoing up my add ons and i am so out of date on what's good. plus some of the old categories seem to be missing from curse.

so far i have xperl and questhelper and mage nuggets.

and does anyone know a add on like personal sentry, where it reads the combat log for nearby players and pops up when it thinks they might be the opposing faction? that one was great for every kind of pvp you could do.

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Ambroos

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does anyone know a good castbar for mages on curse? or a good skill bar add on?

i'm redoing up my add ons and i am so out of date on what's good. plus some of the old categories seem to be missing from curse.

so far i have xperl and questhelper and mage nuggets.

and does anyone know a add on like personal sentry, where it reads the combat log for nearby players and pops up when it thinks they might be the opposing faction? that one was great for every kind of pvp you could do.

Ditch X-Perl, get Shadowed Unitframes. Questhelper will be useless in a week when the Shattering happens. Cast bar: Quartz, the best out there by far.

Grand Master

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If you like the pathing of QuestHelper, I would suggest QuestHelperLite. It simply extends the built-in quest tracker, so it doesn't need an update after every quest change, but it adds the optimal path and a few other useful features of QH.

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treemonster

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Ditch X-Perl, get Shadowed Unitframes. Questhelper will be useless in a week when the Shattering happens. Cast bar: Quartz, the best out there by far.

thx i'll try sahdowed. and i think quartz is what i used to use. do it have lag recast thing on it?

If you like the pathing of QuestHelper, I would suggest QuestHelperLite. It simply extends the built-in quest tracker, so it doesn't need an update after every quest change, but it adds the optimal path and a few other useful features of QH.

hmm i'll check it out if QH doesn't work when cataclysm hits. i just don't like the built in one.

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Tharp Daddy

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Oh god, i'm in quite a pickle.

I was hacked a while back when accounts were still optional to convert to battle.net, during the hacking the person changed my account name to Joseph Stalin, while recovering my account over the phone the rep went ahead and converted my account to a Battle.net account, and i did not find out my name never changed back till about a week ago. So fast forward, my android phone decides to flip **** and i had to do a total restore of it using Odin and such, which erased my Blizzard authenticator. So that's not a big deal, you can call them to reset it for you, but they will ask you to supply info to prove you are the account owner, but the problem is is that the account owner's name is currently Joseph Stalin, and my name is not Joseph Stalin. So i have no authenticator to get into the account, and I'm not sure if there's a way for me to prove the account is mine anymore. Anyone have a clue what i should do?

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Tharp Daddy

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make a ticket or call them up and explain what happened.

when i got hacked it was very fast and easy process, but i verified none of my info was changed.

Did so, i have a strong feeling the response i will get to my long ticket is "please call billing/support".

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treemonster

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wow just logged into my mage for the first time before it got hacked last spring. turns out i didn';t get 1400g resored afterall. logged in with 0 durability on all my gear and 14g. luckily the items in the restoraion mails filled in the missing slots and after selling some old stuff i used to keep around for sentimental reasons i am back at 63g and 100% durability lolz. and i have 15khp which seems like a lot at 78 for a mage with mostly quest greens and tbc arena epics.

now i need to grind out 2 levels to hit 80 and earn enough cash for a dual spec(not that i really need to switch specs, but it's nice to experiment now and then and it saves cash in the long run) and eventually maybe just maybe farm enough gold for epic flying.

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Noveed

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i tried hunter with 4.0.1 and 4.0.3 and the pet cant hold aggro for a second before the mob runs at me.

You are doing something wrong then...

Turn Cower off

Turn Growl on

Most of the time this is sufficient enough.

Use Misdirect if Pet Threat is a problem.

Get glyph of Misdirect if you need to, this makes misdirect pretty much spammable on the pet.

If you are BM I suggest a Worm or Chimera for AoE Pet Tanking, Not sure what MM or SV would use BM is my only Solo/Tanking Spec.

Pet aggro is pretty much spot on and blizzard have given hunters excellent tools to help if it isnt.

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Ambroos

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thx i'll try sahdowed. and i think quartz is what i used to use. do it have lag recast thing on it?

hmm i'll check it out if QH doesn't work when cataclysm hits. i just don't like the built in one.

Quartz has lag recast, indeed. Questhelper will not work when Cataclysm hits since it uses it's own database for quests, and it will not be updated for Cataclysm.

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tablet_user

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You are doing something wrong then...

Turn Cower off

Turn Growl on

Most of the time this is sufficient enough.

Use Misdirect if Pet Threat is a problem.

Get glyph of Misdirect if you need to, this makes misdirect pretty much spammable on the pet.

If you are BM I suggest a Worm or Chimera for AoE Pet Tanking, Not sure what MM or SV would use BM is my only Solo/Tanking Spec.

Pet aggro is pretty much spot on and blizzard have given hunters excellent tools to help if it isnt.

I checked my pets skills and there is no cower and growl is on. Maybe i need to be a certain level to get cower but i need the pet to hold dps more at early levels then i do when im high enough to have proper gear to protect myself.

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