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Grand Master

twist

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[*] Onyxia - 2 months (gated by leveling and figuring out what a raid was)

actually what took the longest to kill onyxia was getting keyed then figuring out just how important stupid fire pots were going to be. everyone knew what raids were from eq, it wasn't till ruined figured out to use the fire protection pots that they downed her and then we did the next day using the same thing.

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firey

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Haven't seen him either.

On a side note, I decided to stick with Disc as it's what I am comfortable with. I got myself up to a 333 i Level score. I did 3 heroics yesterday, all of which completed and I remained int he group, and none had more than 3..non healer fault.. wipes.

The one SFK run I did, there was a clearly new boomkin. As disc I smite 5x to get my Evangelism buff, plus it's a 7-10k heal with a quick cast, low mana use, and chance to crit. So I was rockin a solid 2.3k DPS Overall the boomkin had a little over 4k DPS (In a heroic). There was a couple fights I would have more dps (say 2k) than the boomkin who would have around 1.5k.

Needless to say, after I linked the meters he was sent packin' pretty quickly.

Grand Master

treemonster

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Haven't seen him either.

On a side note, I decided to stick with Disc as it's what I am comfortable with. I got myself up to a 333 i Level score. I did 3 heroics yesterday, all of which completed and I remained int he group, and none had more than 3..non healer fault.. wipes.

The one SFK run I did, there was a clearly new boomkin. As disc I smite 5x to get my Evangelism buff, plus it's a 7-10k heal with a quick cast, low mana use, and chance to crit. So I was rockin a solid 2.3k DPS Overall the boomkin had a little over 4k DPS (In a heroic). There was a couple fights I would have more dps (say 2k) than the boomkin who would have around 1.5k.

Needless to say, after I linked the meters he was sent packin' pretty quickly.

was the group wiping or spending time rezzing him because he didn't know the fights or was he sent packing because he was freshly geared for heroics and couldn't do the 1337 dps even though he was doing the fights fine and everything else was relatively smooth by a healer with a dps meter showed he wasn't doing the best dps? i mean if he was new to heroics then maybe he was doing poor dps because he was just managing to stay out of the bad stuff or w/e because he doesn't know the fights that well from experience.

it's this kind of mentality that makes me not link my dps meter every time some random PUG begs for it every trash pull.

Grand Master

firey

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was the group wiping or spending time rezzing him because he didn't know the fights or was he sent packing because he was freshly geared for heroics and couldn't do the 1337 dps even though he was doing the fights fine and everything else was relatively smooth by a healer with a dps meter showed he wasn't doing the best dps? i mean if he was new to heroics then maybe he was doing poor dps because he was just managing to stay out of the bad stuff or w/e because he doesn't know the fights that well from experience.

it's this kind of mentality that makes me not link my dps meter every time some random PUG begs for it every trash pull.

I agree.. I said no the the kick but everyone one else I guess said it.. 3-1. It became more of an issue because the lower DPS meant longer fights which meant I had a higher risk of running out of mana which did happen a couple times. And it wasn't a mean kick, like we gave him links to elitist jerks, and tips and stuff. Honestly I felt we were very nice, we just couldn't keep going with the dps we had. Most people wouldn't of even tried to help or keep pushing.

It was more a matter of it was just going to take too long to keep going.

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lalalawawawa

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If you need one I can send you one. Is there any reason to have somebody ship one of these over instead of just buying game time without it? 10 more free days?

I haven't played since the end of April, and just want to check how the game is doing now, before subscribing again. :)

I'm on the EU servers, if that information is somehow relevant.

EDIT: And I'm kind of a little greedy. :laugh: Actually, a few friends of mine play WoW. I'll ask them for one, (no one is right now online on wlm). If they don't have a spare one (afaik, you only have a limited amount of those to give?) I'll write here. No need to go spending those precious SoRs. :p

Grand Master

firey

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I haven't played since the end of April, and just want to check how the game is doing now, before subscribing again. :)

I'm on the EU servers, if that information is somehow relevant.

EDIT: And I'm kind of a little greedy. :laugh: Actually, a few friends of mine play WoW. I'll ask them for one, (no one is right now online on wlm). If they don't have a spare one (afaik, you only have a limited amount of those to give?) I'll write here. No need to go spending those precious SoRs. :p

I can scroll of resurrect you, none of my friends play anymore.. so why not..

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Gallifrey2

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I agree.. I said no the the kick but everyone one else I guess said it.. 3-1. It became more of an issue because the lower DPS meant longer fights which meant I had a higher risk of running out of mana which did happen a couple times. And it wasn't a mean kick, like we gave him links to elitist jerks, and tips and stuff. Honestly I felt we were very nice, we just couldn't keep going with the dps we had. Most people wouldn't of even tried to help or keep pushing.

It was more a matter of it was just going to take too long to keep going.

This is my beef with the game as I have heard of this happening from others I know. How do you know he was not new to heroics...having just got the minimum of gear to get there. Compared to others that have better gear you are going to do lesser DPS then if you would if you all had the same level gear. Boot a player because most of the group feels it would take too long to do the herioc....that is just fail.

WOTLK in my opinion has hurt this game a lot everything was too easy and too short. Now they change the game so you need some element of skill and patience and people get crabby when things may take some time and effort.

This just further reinforces my decision to shelve my level 85 mage from 5 man dungeons unless I am running one with my guild. I remember how hard TBC heriocs were...ok maybe not to the elitists...but to most folks they were and frankly I enjoyed the difficulty of them. WOTLK heroics were just dumb...

Grand Master

treemonster

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This is my beef with the game as I have heard of this happening from others I know. How do you know he was not new to heroics...having just got the minimum of gear to get there. Compared to others that have better gear you are going to do lesser DPS then if you would if you all had the same level gear. Boot a player because most of the group feels it would take too long to do the herioc....that is just fail.

WOTLK in my opinion has hurt this game a lot everything was too easy and too short. Now they change the game so you need some element of skill and patience and people get crabby when things may take some time and effort.

This just further reinforces my decision to shelve my level 85 mage from 5 man dungeons unless I am running one with my guild. I remember how hard TBC heriocs were...ok maybe not to the elitists...but to most folks they were and frankly I enjoyed the difficulty of them. WOTLK heroics were just dumb...

i feel the same way. +1 to you.

in tbc i stopped running 5 mans completely even with my pve sister guild because even though they were great people the tanks failed to do basic things like not stand in teh bad stuff over and over and over again and rely on me to do the marking.

normal modes aren't too bad for PUGing in cata but if everything about heroics is true then i'm not going to waste my time with them until my guild starts getting in vent to do them.

Grand Master

the evn show

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ow do you know he was not new to heroics...having just got the minimum of gear to get there.

The members of the party ultimately decide what an acceptable level of performance is. Just because you meet the ilevel minimum doesn't mean you're ready for heroics.

iLevel 329 is what Blizzard estimates the average player needs to have a reasonable chance at success. The final determination as always will fall with the group that's assembled: if they say full 359 epics and you have to RP like a pirate for the run, that's the new minimum.

If you don't like the idea that random players get to set arbitrary standards of performance then form your own groups. Just because you're able to queue with the RDF doesn't mean other people are obligated to play with you, teach you to be better, or even be nice to you. About the only thing you're protected form is harrasement, profanity, and other breaches of the Terms of Service. Kicking people out of RDF groups for any dumb reason (even "my girlfriend just logged on and we want to give her your spot") is explicitly permitted.

Boot a player because most of the group feels it would take too long to do the herioc....that is just fail.

Why should a player that isn't meeting the expectations of 4 other players be allowed to dictate how much carrying the other 4 do?

Grand Master

firey

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This is my beef with the game as I have heard of this happening from others I know. How do you know he was not new to heroics...having just got the minimum of gear to get there. Compared to others that have better gear you are going to do lesser DPS then if you would if you all had the same level gear. Boot a player because most of the group feels it would take too long to do the herioc....that is just fail.

Honestly man, I am a healer.. the only people I complain about are tanks that can't take, or that don't have the def. to mitigate damage. I am a disc priest that can only heal so much...

I myself have been kicked from groups that felt I wasn't good enough, I am not some elitist jerk that demands the utmost in skill. Being as I had no one but myself to rely on to get gear, I just worked my butt off... even now I am not geared I run heroics.. but I only have a 333 iLevel and still have a green wand.. but I am able to keep the group alive for the most part, so that's where my requirement ends.

I can't speak for other people, I don't care how long a heroic takes, as long as I don't sit there for 3 hours smashing my head on the keyboard because people can't play their class.

WOTLK in my opinion has hurt this game a lot everything was too easy and too short. Now they change the game so you need some element of skill and patience and people get crabby when things may take some time and effort.

That is true, and for the most part very real. The problem is.. yes it requires skill and time.. but if you are carrying someone else.. then you clearly have the skill. If the entire group was making mistakes, had low DPS, whatever then the skill isn't there and obviously time will go up.

It becomes a matter of... how much time is being spent.. and does it need to. I would rather run 2 heroics (at 4 bosses each (average).. so minimum 560 badges) than run 1 and get half of that. Because I don't do heroics to sit back and have fun.. I do it for the gear.

I don't get all upset, and I take the game as a game. But I don't have a tonne of play time due to things in real life.. so while I am paying my 15 bucks a month, I'd rather be at a point where if I get 5 hours on a Sat. Afternoon to raid (in the next couple weeks/months) then I want to be able to, instead of not having the gear and stuck running heroics.

My fun comes when I am geared and running guildies doing a normal instance and I can go MC a group of humanoids, or Leap of Faith the tank before he goes to pull, knowing we won't wipe.

This just further reinforces my decision to shelve my level 85 mage from 5 man dungeons unless I am running one with my guild. I remember how hard TBC heriocs were...ok maybe not to the elitists...but to most folks they were and frankly I enjoyed the difficulty of them. WOTLK heroics were just dumb...

I started shortly after TBC came out, so I did all the tbc dungeons on two toons I know how difficult they were, and they required time and effort. As a player from then, I can say yea it is different, but the instances themselves were far longer than CATA ones in length.

Grand Master

Minifig

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Ding.. 69.. today.. and continuing the path of loremaster.. I ran into a bit of a snafu.. I can't complete Terrokar Forest until I'm 70 (three quests there require you to be level 70!), and as I'm 69, I'm a level below it.. so I have to wait. :(

BUUUT...

The good news: I got my corehound today:

sdM8j.jpg

:happy:

Grand Master

firey

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Ding.. 69.. today.. and continuing the path of loremaster.. I ran into a bit of a snafu.. I can't complete Terrokar Forest until I'm 70 (three quests there require you to be level 70!), and as I'm 69, I'm a level below it.. so I have to wait. :(

BUUUT...

The good news: I got my corehound today:

Gratz man, only 16 level to go!

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